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The Extremist Moderates and the Moderate Extremists

Like a band that only knows one song, politicians only know one response to Islamic terrorism. They wall off that vast majority of Muslims who did not actually come down to Woolwich and hack at a soldier with a machete and did not fly two planes into the World Trade Center from those who actually did those things using action and inaction as the defining line between the extremists and the moderates. The couch potatoes watching at home and cheering them on are moderates.

That might be fine if we were discussing an individual crime, like a gas station robbery in Cleveland. But Islamic terrorism isn’t like that. To Muslims, Jihad isn’t an act of violence; it’s an act of faith.

Islamic terrorism isn’t a crime. It’s a form of religious warfare that goes back all the way to its founding. Islam sanctifies crime and violence and elevates them to acts of worship and that is why its acts of terror cannot and do not occur in isolation. It is never the act of a single madman, because its intents and ambitions are communal.

When a Muslim kills a Non-Muslim for the religious reasons of Jihad, whether he is a lone wolf or a member of a large cell, the act cannot be divorced from its goals for the larger Islamic community. No Muslim terrorist is an island. His terrorism is a communal activity that takes place within the context of an Islamic manifest destiny. He does not kill for himself. He takes the lives of others and offers his own life in the name of a historical idea of theocracy and supremacy.

The distinction between action and inaction is meaningless. It’s the distinctions between active support, passive support and direct opposition that matter. Those Muslims who support both the ends and the means of Muslim terrorism are active supporters. Those who support the ends of Islamic theocracy, but not the means of Islamic terrorism, can be labeled passive supporters. And the tiny minority of secular extremists who oppose both the ends and the means are the direct opposition.

The majority of Muslims can at best be described as moderate extremists, while a tiny minority can be complimented for being extremist moderates. And the existence of that minority is often as hard to verify as the presence of Bigfoot in the Pine Barrens of New Jersey. Some people claim to have seen one, but the sightings never amount to anything tangible.

While not all Muslims support every act of terror, nearly all Muslims support some acts of terror. They define acts that they disapprove of as terrorism and acts that they approve of as resistance which makes the formal condemnations of terrorism by Muslim groups completely meaningless. Each condemnation only applies to a specific case. And that’s even if you take the condemnations at face value.

After September 11, National Geographic interviewed a moderate “Islamic scholar” for his response to the attacks. “No religion would condone this,” he said, “Islam does not approve of this. There is no way that the people who did this could be Muslim, and if they claim to be Muslim, then they have perverted their religion.”

The scholar was Anwar Al-Awlaki, who had ties to the 9/11 hijackers and was an Al Qaeda leader.

Even if applying the term “moderate” to any mainstream Muslim leader ever made any sense, it became meaningless once the ranks of moderates grew to include the Muslim Brotherhood, Anwar Al-Awlaki and any Muslim who was not at the moment engaged in chopping off someone’s head. And once he was done sawing away and washed his hands of the blood, then he too could be considered a moderate.

Of the two Muslim countries most frequently presented as moderate examples, Turkey and Indonesia, both have committed genocide against non-Muslim minorities in the last hundred years.

Around the time of the Arab Spring, reporters began describing the Muslim Brotherhood, which had a long history of terrorism and whose writings call for genocide, as moderate. The Free Syrian Army, which is dominated by the Brotherhood, is constantly described as both “moderate” and “secular”. But Hamas, which is the Muslim Brotherhood in Gaza, is described as militant, rather than moderate.

There is no actual standard for what makes a Muslim group moderate. The sobriquet is a form of approval granted by Western elites to Muslim groups and figures that most people would conventionally associate with terrorism.

Muslims that might conceivably be described as moderate rarely are. It would be redundant to do so. It’s invariably Muslims with a long record of public statements in support of terrorism and associations with terrorist groups that are described that way. When a Muslim figure is described as moderate, it’s meant to be an alibi. You might think him extreme, but the media has preemptively stepped in and labeled him a moderate. That’s how it worked for Anwar Al-Awlaki. That’s how it still works for the Muslim Brotherhood.

Muslims describe acts of terror selectively as terrorism or resistance based on whether or not they support them. Similarly Western elites describe Muslim terrorist groups as moderates or extremists based on whether or not they support them. It is impossible to determine anything meaningful from a dialogue in which Muslim groups are not defined by their beliefs or actions.

If a Muslim group can be both terrorist and genocidal and still be labeled “moderate”, then moderation has no meaning. When the New York Times and the Washington Post describe the Muslim Brotherhood as moderate, it’s no different than telling the police that your cousin was with you all night when he was actually carrying out a series of gruesome murders. It’s not a supportable claim; it’s an alibi that doesn’t hold up under even the slightest scrutiny.

That precariousness is why Western elites unleash such an astonishing volume of vitriol against anyone who challenges the moderate alibi.

Muslim and Western leaders both describe Muslim groups that they support as moderates and those that they oppose as extremists. These groups are never moderate because their basis for supporting them is the perception that these groups are forging a path that is on the right side of history.

The exact geographical location of the right side of history varies somewhat between Muslim and Western leaders, but is largely the same. Muslim and Western leaders both look for Islamic populists who can combine modernity with Islam.

To Muslims, that means groups like the Muslim Brotherhood that use Western knowledge as a means of Islamizing their societies. To Westerners, that means Islamic reformers who will embrace democracy and fight corruption while being able to hold a dialogue with their diplomats and reporters. And in the Arab Spring, American and European leaders agreed that the Muslim Brotherhood was the one.

Whether in Egypt or in London, there is no requirement that these moderate groups actually stop supporting acts of terror, only that they stop embarrassing the Western politicians and journalists providing them with an alibi by actually carrying them out. For Western elites, Islamic acts of terror are not an outrage, but an inconvenience, that upsets the public and makes it harder to push forward on the larger agenda of integrating the Muslim world into the modern world through immigration and democratization.

Moderation refers to a seeming willingness to get with the program. Anwar Al-Awlaki was considered moderate because he was willing to stand in front of the cameras and say the right things after September 11, even though he was involved in the attacks of September 11.

The Muslim Brotherhood is similarly considered moderate because it’s willing to say the right things, even while its thugs burn down churches and terrorize the opposition. It’s not the violence that matters, but the willingness to put in a good appearance at UN, WTO and IMF events, to fall in with all the trends and to maintain the farce that is the international community and international law.

The moderate Muslim prized by Western elites is not an opponent of violence. If that were the qualification then many of the Western elites, who support and supported all sorts of leftist terrorists, wouldn’t qualify. It’s a willingness to join the club and maintain the illusion that a united world under international law is possible.

A month after September 11, the New York Times described Anwar Al-Awlaki as “a new generation of Muslim leader capable of merging East and West”. That is the soulless calculation behind the moderate brand. It isn’t given to those Muslims who eschew violence, but to those Muslims who support the union of east and west. And they don’t look too closely at the fine print to determine whether this united world will run under international law or the manifest destiny of Islam.


  1. A Muslim extremist is a Muslim who rejects violence, intimidation, and subjugation. I don't know any, but if there are such people they don't advertise. Perhaps that is prudent.

  2. Islam is like a disease that's almost impossible to get rid of. Only a tiny number like Walid Shoebat and Noni Darwish get cured. A carrier may have few visible symptoms or a lot, but they are all carriers like zombies that can spontaneously revert to their most hideous form and bite anyone who is not the exact same subspecies of zombie at any time.

    It's a real problem for Western Democracies to deal with Muslims. There are actually two kinds of problems. The first one has to do with all the lies and wishful thinking that results in denying that essentially all Muslims are dangerous and undesirable. The second one is even harder. In an imaginary democratic society where you stop importing new Muslims and properly prosecute the criminal offenders, what do you do with the quiet but non-secular Muslims? Ideally, they should all be rounded up and deported. But what would be a legal justification for that? And morally, how can a democracy remain a democracy and simply deport someone who is a legal resident and not doing anything criminal for what they believe? That's a difficult problem to wrestle with.

  3. Anonymous2/6/13

    First of all, kudos to James and Igor above for using the term "Muslim" rather than the politically correct term "Islamic." Muslim terrorism is much more focused, and leaves much less wriggle room.

    My thoughts on Islam were crystallized a few years ago when a friend sent me a video, in which a group of Imam's or whatever were sitting in a circle in a tent. A bound man was lying across the lap of one of them, and next to him was a young boy of around 10 years of age. The purpose of the meeting was to instruct the young boy on how to saw off the head of someone who has been marked for beheading, which they proceeded to do in full graphic detail and full audio, the screams of the prisoner mingling with the chanting of Allahu Akbar.

    It isn't often that one gets to observe pure, naked evil, but there it was, and in full color. Thanks to modern media distribution, we have torn the lid off of hell for everyone to see. The challenge, which Daniel and a few others recognize, is to get people to look down.


  4. Exactly IgorR "how can a democracy remain a democracy", that is what they use to their advantage, our moral and ethical system which assumes reason and legality to be accepted and when differed with to be countered verbally. Yet Europe refuses to acknowledge that be it not for violent conquest Islam would have been strictly limited to the city of Medina.

  5. Muslims are like the Communists. They will exploit their fellow Western travelers for their own purposes and then discard them when they are no longer needed. Western apologists for Islam are being taken along for the ride.

  6. Hey Daniel

    Could you help me spread the word that the voting has started on the “Coolest SOB In The Conservative Blogosphere Award 2013?”

    You are one of the nominees…


  7. mindReader, it is the European elites that refuse to acknowledge the reality of Islam. I can't claim to know whether it is mostly because they don't understand it or because they find it in their political financial interest to do so.

    On May 21, 2013 Dominique Venner , a French historian, shot himself in the Notre Dame Cathedral of Paris to protest against the introduction of gay marriage in France. He had also warned about what the Islamisation of France would be likely to bring, and he is not alone.

    I am not a believer in linear thinking in that the future is highly predictable based on the extrapolation of the current trends for decades and centuries. It may happen that one day say 15 years from now as one Algerian blogger predicts an Islamic party will assume power in France, but something may break before that.

    My point was really a sad one, although not completely stated. When a democracy lets a problem fester for too long, the problem may not always be resolvable by democratic means, but that doesn't mean that it will necessarily not be resolved.

  8. "The majority of Muslims can at best be described as moderate extremists, while a tiny minority can be complimented for being extremist moderates. And the existence of that minority is often as hard to verify as the presence of Bigfoot in the Pine Barrens of New Jersey." Daniel Greenfield

    Actually, identifying the percentage of American Muslims that compose the three categories daniel lists is fairly straightforward.

    The article gives us some hard figures to look at. Guess who U.S. Muslims are voting for Poll finds what they really think about Constitution, Shariah

    "32 percent [of American Muslims] believe Shariah should be the supreme law of the land in the United States"

    "40 percent of Muslims in America believe they should not be judged by U.S. law and the Constitution, but by Shariah standards."

    46 percent of American Muslims say "they believe those Americans who offer criticism or parodies of Islam should face criminal charges."

    "One in eight respondents said they think those Americans who criticize or parody Islam should face the death penalty"...and "one in five Muslims across America cannot say they believe Christians or others who criticize Muhammad should be spared the death penalty."

    "One in five say Muslim men should be allowed to follow their religion in America and have more than one wife, and 58 percent said criticism of their religion or of Muhammad should not be allowed under the Constitution."

    "19 percent said they “strongly agree” with the idea that Americans have a right to invite Muslims to consider another faith."

    So there you go; one in five American Muslims support the American Constitution.

    And, approx. one in five American Muslims either believe that Americans who criticize or parody Islam should face the death penalty or cannot dispute the death penalty for those who criticize Islam.

    The other 3/5ths fall within Daniel's "passive supporters" who bend with the wind.


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