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Friday Afternoon Roundup - What Went Wrong

Chris Muir's Day by Day Says it All


The GOP neglected its base and frantically tried to show that they were more responsible Democrats, but with a deep love of free enterprise. The Democrats focused on turning out every single rotten member of their 2008 coalition and getting them to the polls.

The GOP chased the voters it didn't have. The Democrats chased the voters they did have and made sure as many of them as possible showed up to vote.

The GOP softened its message. The Democrats hardened theirs. The GOP tried to be moderate. The Democrats tried to be extremist. 

Guess which plan worked?

In a low turnout election with the media running against you, you don't aim for the center, you act like a general, fire up your base and command your armies. 


Elections come down to turnout. Everything else is window dressing. And the voters did not come out in sufficient number.

The election did not really come down to Obama vs. Romney. It came down to Romney vs. Obama.

Or to put it another way, most Romney voters were really voting against Obama. And most Obama voters were really voting against Romney.

In a competitive economic environment, the government class and the productive class were both trying to protect their economic lifelines. Whether it was the ability to earn a living or to get stuff from the government.

Obama's entire strategy was to assemble constituencies with compelling group reasons for voting against Romney. And the whole RACISM WAR ON WOMEN DREAM ACT GAY MARRIAGE approach worked. It was a narrow election, but there was enough turnout and some voter fraud to carry the day.

Romney looked like he had the turnout based on early momentum. Before Sandy. Sandy was the November surprise that tilted the dials and changed everything.

But Romney's momentum increased after his first debate performance. He barely broke even on the second debate and completely blew the third debate. The numbers then didn't seem to show that it hurt him, but it likely did not help shore up his path forward.

Republicans were still acting as if the momentum were there when it had dissolved away. They were busy predicting a landslide that was not going to come. They committed themselves and kept going and then ran out of road.

That is what went wrong.


Most Republicans went into this assuming that 2012 would be an extension of 2010. Instead it was an extension of 2008. Why?

2010 pivoted on ObamaCare and turned Republicans into an effective counter to Obama through a Republican Congress. And what exactly did we see from that?

I'm not going to start screaming about Boehner now, but the voters gave Congress to the Republicans and they expected to see something for the trouble. They did not.

After the 2010 elections I listed seven things for the Republican Congress to keep in mind and closed with, "2010 was important, but 2012 will be much more important. 2010 is a chance to checkmate Obama's agenda and prepare the ground for the real war. That means the context for everything we do has to be on how to win the next election. Winning 2010, while losing 2012, won't look like much of a victory. And if you don't think it can happen now, look back at the nineties. It can happen. And unless we work hard, it will."

And it did happen. Few people thought the Republican Congress added value to their lives. There was no coherent agenda. The public was alienated. Many did not bother showing up.

The Anti-Obama vote was not enough. There was no sense that elected Republicans were doing anything useful. And so they weren't elected.


Let's begin by recapping some of the more common responses to the 2012 disaster. (Maybe the Mayan calendar was right after all.)

1. The system is rigged

2. The national demographics have shifted

3. We lost the culture war

4. We're led by idiots

5. Everyone just wants free stuff

All five of these are true, to a limited extent. But the takeaway that we're doomed and there's no point in trying is wrong.

1. Yes the system is rigged. It was always rigged. The Democrats stole the election for JFK and Nixon failed to challenge the Chicago op. Then Nixon gave us Democratic social policy and a disastrous wrap-up of the Vietnam War, while allowing himself to be made the most hated figure in America.

And you think we have it bad?

After Nixon came Ford. And after Ford came Carter. Economic malaise. And the death of America. Can anyone remind me what happened after that?

A guy named Reagan that no one took seriously got credit for the economic recovery and ending the Cold War.

Voter fraud is not new. Media bias is not new. There were times in history when they were arguably worse.

The system is rigged, but it's not unbeatable.

2. The demographics are shifting, but it's not just the shift, it's the lack of white voter turnout. We do need to keep an eye on the immigration ball. In the long run the southern border will kill us. But we could have won even with these demographics if not for low voter turnout.

3. We always lost the culture war. When were Republicans ever cool? I know, back during Lincoln's day and when Mark Twain was overflowing with joy at the glorification of General Grant. And of course Teddy Roosevelt. The last cool Republican.

Some blog was complaining that we know we've lost the culture war when Anthony Bourdain is ranting on a cooking show about Republicans.

A. Who really gives a rodent's posterior about Anthony Bourdain and

B. Celebrities and media personalities have been bashing Republicans for 80 years.

If a cooking guru ranting about Republicans means anything, it means that we're still relevant as rage fodder for loser liberals.

We are not going to be one with the youth vote. Your average college student who just finished pretending to read Proust is not going to go Republican. He'll do that twenty years later. And that's not so bad unless the death panels begin lowering the demographics of the elderly.

4. Umm yeah. Obviously. That's not really new. But most political operatives are idiots. Ours aren't just dumb, they're also timid and slow to embrace new methods. They're also incompetent. But any field that runs on connections rather than merit, and past reputation even when it's 30 years out of date, will suffer this.

The one thing that the Dem operation did right was bring in fresh blood.

5. Umm yes they always did. People have always wanted free stuff.

Lobbyist is not a recently invented profession. Neither was the parade of people holding out their hands to DC.

You know whose election proved that people want free stuff? FDR. And he won by a much margin than Barry Hussein.

Let me run another name by you. Huey Long. Or let's go back to 18th Century Rhode Island and the Country Party which in a time of economic crisis ran on a platform of debt relief by printing money. Their slogan was "To Relieve the Distressed". And they won big.

Here is how the actions of the ruling Country Party in paying off debt with worthless paper money was described. “the most extraordinary that ever disgraced the annals of democratical tyranny... the depravity of human nature” that could “sanctify such palpable fraud and dishonesty, by a solemn act of legislation."

Sound familiar? Let's get even creepier.

At its June 1786 session, the legislature passed a penalty act. Anyone refusing to accept the currency at face value was subject to a £100 fine for the first offense, half going to the state and half to “the Person who shall inform.” Conviction of a second offense carried the same fine and disenfranchisement.

The act provided that all paper-money cases were to be tried in special courts without juries and without the right to appeal.

On 13 September 1786, delegates from Providence County towns met in convention at Smithfield to consider the merchants’ continued opposition. The delegates attacked the subversive tendencies “of the mercantile Interest” and proposed that the legislature consider several plans, one of which called for a state-trade system that would have effectively eliminated the merchant class. As envisioned by a writer in the Providence Gazette, the state would own all stores, ships, wharves, shipyards, and the like. A state commission would send ships on fishing and mercantile ventures while severely limiting the importation of luxuries.

The legislature would “take the lead in this business, and will border it carried on in such manner, and under such regulations, as they in their wisdom shall think most convenient for the welfare, advantage, and well-being of the State.”
Country party leaders introduced a bill that would require everyone in Rhode Island to take an oath supporting paper money. 

The Providence Gazette of 6 January 1787 reported that a bill introduced in the December session would abolish all debts and distribute all property equally among heads of families and repeat the process every thirteen years.

And after all this... the Country Party won in a landslide. There's your totalitarian Socialism in America... in 1786.

We were not once upon a time an absolutely moral country where people always worked hard and did not just vote themselves free stuff and elect a bunch of Socialist charlatans mad with power to do it for them.

We did it in 1786. We did it in 2012.

America has bad and good 'mood' swings. We do not always answer to our better angels. And there is no reason to start giving up and abandoning ship because the country will now be forever in the grip of a mythical 47 percent of looters.

This is not new. It's not the end. We have been here before. We are not doomed and giving up on the rest of the country is premature and defeatist.

The Majority of the administration is composed of a licentious number of men, destitute of education, and many of them, void of principle.

From anarchy and confusion they derive their temporary consequence, and this they endeavour to prolong by debauching the minds of the common people

Again, sound familiar? We've been here before. And we got through it.

...but just one more item from Rhode Island's radical history.

By paying the public debt in depreciated currency, the Country party had redistributed the state’s wealth.

During its first session in October, the legislature admitted that paper money had depreciated “from various and unforeseen Causes” and that continuing paper money as “a Tender will be productive of the highest Injustice.”

Now try doing that to China.


8 in 10 GOP voters do not want the party to back down and sell them down the river. But 8 in 10 GOP consultants want to get highly paid “Sell Our Base Down the River” positions.

Now the brilliant people who promised us a landslide and gave us a disaster have another brilliant plan. They are going to back some form of amnesty for illegal aliens which will give us 11 million new Latino voters, which in their best numbers ever, vote 40/60 Republican/Democrat. And it’s a plan. Like Little Big Horn was a plan.

If we can get that 40/60 Latino vote, we’ll win about four elections and then lose every single election from then until doomsday or until the United States is renamed Upper Mexico. But these are the people who can’t count over a trillion and couldn’t run a working GOTV program. Why would you expect them to handle basic math?

...from Republican Establishment Rushes to Surrender to Obama... oh just a little more

“The result will be (as in 1986) a new wave of illegal immigrants, largely unskilled, who will bid down the wages of the Americans and legal immigrants at the bottom of the labor market. These workers are the people most hurt by the big economic changes of the last few decades.”

And those workers will hate Republicans. As they already hate us for NAFTA. As they already hate us for championing free trade, instead of protecting their natural constituencies, the way the Democrats protect theirs. And they’ll be about as enthusiastic about voting for us as they were this time.

And the Latino vote we’ll be chasing will cheerfully head to the polls to vote Obama a third term. But we’ll have sold out the white working class who would actually vote for us, again, to try and win over Latino men and suburban moms.

But standing up for the American worker and businessman is outmoded. Let's throw another convention dedicated to pandering to voters the GOP doesn't have.

And then victory will surely be ours.


In extremely “fascinating” timing, Petraeus resigned today, a few days after the election, over an extramartial affair. Now I’m sure that the affair happened, but I rather doubt that at this juncture, where extramarital affairs are normal even in the White House and the Marines are expected to embrace gay marriage, that this was really about the affair.

If Petraeus had stood by Obama over Benghazigate all the way, and taken the fall, then the affair would not have mattered. This is Valerie Jarrett delivering a first dose of payback and neutering the threat of a Petraeus presidential run against Obama in 2016.

...from Valerie Jarrett’s Payback Begins


6,000 jobs already lost after Obama election. Stock market in 2 day freefall. Global warming set to destroy DC.
And more on Puerto Rico
a majority of Puerto Ricans did not vote for statehood, but that doesn’t matter, because the media and Obama will begun trumpeting a successful statehood vote based on a non-binding vote in which 40 percent voted for statehood as a potential alternative, without it being clear how many of that 40 percent were also part of the 54 percent that wanted a change in status… as a mandate.

Obama said that he wanted a clear majority to vote in favor of statehood. This is a bait and switch vote that produced nothing resembling that. And the contrast with the supermajority for Hawaii’s statehood referendum in 1959 where over 90 percent voted for statehood could not be more glaring.
 And the Latino vote

In the short term, getting 44 percent of the Latino vote can win elections. In the long term you’re shifting the demographics so that winning elections becomes impossible. And that’s at 44 percent. Imagine it at 31 percent. Then imagine running against the first Democratic Mexican candidate for president.

Demographic unsustainability is as bad as the financial kind. And what is being proposed might win two presidential elections before making it completely impossible to elect a Republican president ever again.
On the Conservative media.

when you have an entity called “Conservative Media” or “Liberal Media” then the bias is baked in. It would be nice if we had a genuinely independent media, but no such thing exists.

Conservative media predicted a Romney victory. Liberal media predicted an Obama victory. Both sides were doing their jobs, which wasn’t journalism, but activism. 

And Bloomberg explains his reasoning behind the Obama endorsement

Explaining that endorsement, Bloomberg said that he endorsed Obama “not because I’m thrilled with him, but to me, choice, gay rights, the environment are the real issues, more important than economics. I spoke to him last night, and I told him, ‘Don’t make any mistake, my criticism of your economic policies still stands.’”

Finally a few words from George Washington, my president and yours

At Valley Forge, a quarter of the army died and efforts were underway to remove Washington from his command. After the Germantown defeat, Washington sent this message to his men.

“The Commander in Chief returns his thanks to the Generals and other officers and men concerned in yesterday’s attack on the enemy’s left wing for the spirit and bravery they manifested in driving the enemy from field to field,” and despite the American defeat, he wrote, “they nevertheless see that the enemy are not proof against a vigorous attack and may be put to flight when boldly pushed —

“This they will remember and assure themselves that on the next occasion, by a proper exertion of the powers which God has given them, and inspired by the cause of freedom in which they are engaged, they will be victorious.”


even when conservatives won elections, the people who lost those elections taught our children the next day. 

Now, after years of patient effort, the teachers' unions have turned America's schools into a wholly owned subsidiary of the political left.  Conservatives have complained when reports surfaced about students being taught to sing hymns of praise to Obama, or when conservative students were harassed in class, or when examples of blatant liberal bias in textbooks came to light, but somehow we allowed ourselves to write off public schools as a lost cause.

from Timothy C. Daughtry at the American Thinker

And it's a crucial point. There can be no American future without an alternative demographic and that means control of education. Give us the child and we will have the man. That is the motto of the left.

Ann Barnhardt breaks down the economic implosion at Western Rifle Shooters. Her own blog is unlinkable, but this works.

Muir's Day by Day cartoons comments on the female vote and the Democratic base, but I would point out again that it's actually the Julia vote, the single female vote. And this is why social liberalism and economic conservatism do not work together. No family means a collective family for collective security.


The jobs are not coming back. To know that you need to get off the inter-states; off the scenic blue highways that lead to your summer beach retreats. You need to get into the towns that have been passed by; the towns whose main industry has become food stamps and "assistance." These towns are growing in number daily and will continue to grow.

There is no work in these towns. The factories that supported them are long dead or dying. They, like the people they supported, are carbon based life forms and the strange insects that govern us seem to be united in making sure they never return. The checks and the food stamps come, but that's not enough to paint the houses or put in the gardens or do much more than eat too many pizzas and drink too much watery beer. The young would leave but more and more there's no place to go. They spend their time instead deciding on what sort of new tattoo will go well with the previous twenty.

The building of new houses and malls and condos and other large construction projects are not coming back. And even if they did where would we find the workers trained to build them? Old carpenters have moved on to making a living at something other than construction. There's not enough work to bring young ones onto the job and help them to master the skills needed. When a nation stops building it stops having the jobs that can train the next generation of builders. Mexicans, working cheap and off the books, are still in some demand, but there's a limit to repainting and the kind of minor brickwork that makes for a pleasant garden.

The money isn't coming back except at something worth less with every passing day. It begins to seem like mere slips of paper or a meaningless string of numbers that always seems to decrease. 

... a little part of a larger important essay at American Digest

This is a country where millions feel like they have no future. If they were Mexicans, the Democratic Party would community organize the hell out of them. So it falls to us.


.... In Florida, with nearly 8.3 million ballots cast, the margin of victory was a mere 52,000 votes. Because this U.S. presidential election was a two person race, a takeaway by one candidate from another represents a two vote swing. Accordingly, if somewhere in the order of 26,000 Floridians, out of 8.3 million, decided that they were changing their vote from Romney to Obama based on his supposed “heckuva job” in relation to the storm response, those voters alone decided Florida’s 29 electoral votes. Given the AP exit poll and its 42% figure for those who claimed the storm influenced their decision to vote for Obama, it’s safe to say that Superstorm Sandy threw far more than 26,000 voters into Obama’s column and out of Romney’s.

The same argument can be made in Ohio. 5.3 million votes cast, margin of victory: 103,000. If the storm flipped about 52,000 votes or more from Romney to Obama, then no storm meant Ohio would have been a Romney win on election day.

In Virginia, 3.7 million votes cast, margin of victory: 107,000. If the storm influenced 54,000 voters or more to abandon Romney for Obama, the storm was decisive in converting a Romney win in Virginia to an Obama win.

In Colorado, nearly 2.4 million votes cast, margin of victory: 113,000. If 57,000 voters or more moved from the Romney camp to the Obama camp based on the storm, then Obama doesn’t win the state if the storm never happens.

....and now tally in the voter fraud and begin guessing how narrow it all was and how little focused effort could have changed it.

It's midnight in America, but we can still the lights back on again.


  1. In Pennsylvania white voters turned out in great numbers and Obama still won. Where is the evidence that there was a white voter decline except in California?
    I agree with your points regarding the influence of Sandy. Chris Christie helped even more -- I hope that Republicans remember his "service" and reject him from the list for 2016.

  2. Daniel, I have not heard back from you regarding my book question (sent an email to your yahoo address). I have some interesting material that you may be interested in -- that is if you are interested in writnig a book.

  3. Anonymous9/11/12

    While I appreciate all the wonderful angst posted on this site, I have to say " it's the money stupid". All the liberal news media, Hollywood celebtards, and all the rest of our national idiots that rely on our dollars need to know, " you supported Obama, you don't get one more cent from me, I won't buy the products, see your movies, or watch/listen to your sh**y station". They need to think about that if they continue to shill for him. We are not the 47%.

  4. Blaming Sandy for the loss is a lot like blaming some dumb video for Benghazi. These are lies. Voter fraud on a scale none of us imagined led to this mess. This fraud was presented and packaged by our so called media, and republicans are either too frightened or too stupid to fight it. The only politician that I still respect after Tuesday, is lieutenant colonel Allen West.

  5. Part of the "what went wrong" is that Obama & Co have the social networks sewed up, and we're still using rotary dial phones and Rolodexes. If we don't catch up in the next 4 years, the Republican Party will go the way of the Federalist Party, the Whig Party, and the Bull Moose Party.

    And the country will go the way of Greece, Cuba, and Zimbabwe.

  6. Anonymous9/11/12

    We, conservatives are at fault.
    Because today most Republicans will still take their families to see Ben Affleck and other socialists films. We will continue to support businesses which openly support our demise.
    Our future victory depends on nothing more than cutting off our financial support of Madonna and other deviants.
    You do not need to change your lifestyle drastically.
    Stop spending money on Hollywood, on businesses supporting and in counties supporting Democrats. Withhold your money and starve them.

  7. Steve D9/11/12

    'They are going to back some form of amnesty for illegal aliens which will give us 11 million new Latino voters'

    That will actually give you about 14 new voters; a lot, but nowhere near the 10,999, 986 voters the democrats are going to get.

  8. VA_Rancher9/11/12

    It is VERY NICE to see Chris Muir's AWESOME "Day by Day" cartoon for 11/6/12 "Remember". It gave me chills the day he emailed it, and candidly, it remains accurate (possibly MORE accurate even) today.

    Have a Great weekend Dan...

  9. SoCal Observer9/11/12

    Dear Sultan:

    I really hate to be pessimistic, but what you have not addressed is this: 1.) With a senate majority, BHO can now stack the supreme court with whomever he wants, as well as the cabinet, DOJ, State Dept., and the JCS. He sets ALL policy. He also gets to make a lot of executive orders. Just who will oppose him ih Congress? He is currently purging the military. 2. The proportion of the electorate dependent upon the state handouts will grow. They will NOT vote against their handouts and WILL vote to usurp your bank account, privately funded retirement, and your income. 3. In the next 2 years, BOH and crew can make life rough for those he sees as his opponents. With a stacked SCOTUS that agrees with his interpretation of or disregard for the constitution, watch the Bill of Rights disappear. PS: Sorry about calling you Dave, it was late and I was fading fast last nite.

  10. Jewish supporter10/11/12


    You are right. I pay a subscription to my local conservative newspaper whether I read it or not. I scab the socialist newspaper online - I don't pay a cent towards it. If it goes online behind a paywall, I just won't read it.

    That local socialist newspaper is losing money rapidly because of declining readership. The problem is, there is now a movement to fund "quality" news organisations by the leftists. By quality they mean, of course, left wing publications only. There is also a strong movement demonizing talk back radio, which tends to be right of centre.

    Even I'm not sure whether it is the net killing off traditional media, or whether the socialist newspapers are turning off mainstream readers. Unfortunately, their influence still seems to get the wrong candidates elected most of the time.

    As for TV and cinema, all plots now openly push Cultural Marxist viewpoints. There are no alternatives. This is one area I would like to influence by writing alternative plots and formats. I believe that chivalry and traditional values still hold some appeal to the young, if only we can harness them.

  11. Anonymous10/11/12

    This is mostly about demographics. There is really only one party in South Africa, California, or Detroit.

  12. Ninety-four million people didn't vote. I talked to a few of them. They said it was pointless because states like California and Ohio, etc. always decide the race and their vote means nothing. That's a lot of people.

  13. I don't necessarily disagree with anything you have said here, but I do believe there are forces and plans at work that are beyond the simple idea that winning elections is of paramount importance to those who control the Republicann party. In fact, I would say it's pretty much a toss-up as to whether the party of stupid is merely stupid or has priorities and agendas beyond the simple premise of "we gotta win this election".

    Hmm, let's see. If I wanted to insure that the current "Dear Leader" and his aparatchiks stayed in power despite their lawlessness and utter cluelessness that make them seemingly impossible to reelect, who would I manuver into the position to challenge him? First, I would make sure that challenger is the embodiment of everything Dear Leader claims is oppressing us - The wealthy businessman who doesn't understand us average folks and who offshores money to avoid taxes. That would be a very good start.

    Next, I would make sure he is a member of a religion that would make him radioactive for millions of conservative Christians (mostly Republican) who take their faith very seriously. That way I can be sure that either millions will not vote at all, or they will vote against him on that one consideration. Yeah, this is starting to sound like a slam-dunk!

    Third, I would make sure that the more fundamentalist pols of the social conservative stripe stick their collective feet deep into their mouths by saying things like "if a rape happened then its because god wanted it to happen", et al. This is especially effective if the opposition is desperate to paint the Republicans as not giving a damn about women and will flog any such statements endlessly. This is a sure-fire recipe for turning out the opposition who believe (probably correctly) that some number of the social conservatives of the Republican party want to institute their interpretation of biblical law to replace the current cannon of civil law.

    Now to cap it off let's work hand-in-hand with the DemocRAT henchmen and the Libfilth MSM to destroy any other candidate who resonates and appeals to the fisically conservative voters but who are not members of the check pants Duma. Bye bye Bachman! Cain, you're not able! Anyone who believes that Romney wasn't chosen very early on by the check-pants Republican Duma simply didn't pay attention. The same was true for McLame last time. The party regulars will have THEIR candidate and they will work behind the scenes to destroy anyone the Duma hasn't approved. The party regulars of the Duma may be shocked that their plans didn't work this time against a true, hard-core Socialist/Communist with such a miserable track record, but at least they can take comfort that THEY are still in control. Yes, the party may crash and burn, but THEY get to ride that horse into the ground as is their right, being born to rule and all.

    No, I do not despair after this election. Neither will I climb back on board the corrupt, self-serving train of the Republican Duma. The Duma has to be overthrown, and in a convincing fashion. The loathsome and despicable aparatchiks who front for the Duma on TV are a good place to start.

  14. I always enjoy DG's comments but I disagree on
    two points.

    1 - Yes, one can find similarities between the early history of America and the present day (and I was not aware of the examples which he presented), but the monstrous problem now is the
    entitlement mentality of many Americans ('If I want it, take it for me at gun point from somebody else, anybody else, who worked gard to earn it, nd I'll be your political bodyservant, groveling to you, the politicans, at every opportunity.') and the dismal entitlement programs currently inflicted upon us, which this mentality generates.

    2 - We benefit enormously from immigration. The good that occurs from people coming here to build new lives for themselves overwhelms the bad from problems such a few are criminals, some take welfare, vore illegally, etc.

    In fact, blaming illegal immigrants for the problem of IAs being on welfare, voting illegaly, is like blaming wet pavements for rain
    (to borrow a phrase, I believe, from Roger Blough).

    Those problems are made in America by our own native born Socialist sludge.

  15. Another thing that went wrong was the seeming statistical impossibility that Obama got 99-100% in many wards in Ohio, Pennsylvania and Florida. If you're going to put up Josef Stalin numbers you need to be Josef Stalin first.

  16. Anonymous10/11/12

    Dubious, specious, fallacious CRAP! ... all of it.

    A collection of hasty generalizations and other non-arguments -- dismissive and stupid -- from which you draw the conclusion that though it's "midnight in America, we can still (sic)the lights back on."

    Though that metaphor makes absolutely zero sense, I'll go along with the sentiment and then tell you NO, WE CAN'T "still (sic) the lights back on".

    I tell you true -- the MOST dangerous thing in times like these is FALSE HOPE.

    Alleged "conservative" pundits, bloggers, and radio hosts have nothing left to offer but this FALSE HOPE. So, now, they're peddling it non-stop.


    I can only guess that it's because they're terrified to admit -- even to themselves -- the actual, dreadsome truth of our circumstances.

    In other words, it's because they're shitting their pants because of cowardly souls.

    If, even now, you cannot grasp that this government, this culture, this "system", this country is TOTALLY and IRREVOCABLY corrupt, and that there is NO possibility of returning to a civil society and government based on individual liberty within that "system", then (odds are) you're shitting your's, too.

    Your only options are: 1. ------ ; 2; --------; or, 3. Resigning yourself to the fact that not only will you never have the freedom intended by the Founders, but neither you nor your progeny will ever be more free than you are TODAY.

    Even if you were to choose option #1 or #2, the chances are very small of your ever enjoying the kind of liberty envisioned by America's founding fathers.

    The U.S. Constitution is dead & gone. Get used to it, & stop talking about the Constitution as if it has any application in today's America.

    Forget the Declaration's "Life, Liberty, and Pursuit of Happiness".


    I would have avoided "cursing, shouting, throwing chairs, and starting small fires" if I could have.

    Of course, the decision to delete this rant -- to shove it down the memory hole, pretending that what it says isn't true -- is yours

    .... and so is the peril of doing so.

  17. Uh huh.

    Give up hope and embrace defeatism. Resign yourself.

    Truly that is the conservative way.

    It is in no way shape or form exactly the kind of attitude that our enemies would like us to take on.

  18. Simon, did not see email from you

  19. Doug, you are assuming the distinction is between legal and illegal, rather than between types of immigrants

  20. SoCal Observer, sure it's going to be bad, and that's not the least of it

  21. Technically not true, but close

  22. Anonymous17/11/12

    despite your brilliance you still get a fever that constantly possesses Limbaugh and the other loonies...Romney lost because the people saw through him...his softened message as you call it was a brazen attempt to distort and lie because he knew his game was up...his behavior after the election brought him back in focus and it was ugly...an ugly man who stole his money and left many broken souls in his wake...but he got his... isn't that what its all about for the right (and I use that term sarcastically...

  23. Anonymous17/11/12

    then why did urban areas suffer lines as long as 6 hours in Florida? to discourage Americans from voting...I'm writing this in fairness I'm beginning to hate Obama, especially his deceitful middle east polices which has given power to our enemies...

  24. Anonymous17/11/12

    you use the word enemies when discussing democrats and that explains in a nut shell what is wrong with republicans...you argue every point, have gone the obstructionist route, raise your voice when debating, slander and attack incessantly..we are not enemies we are all Americans..but you Republicans have taken on evil personalities and now there is talk of secession because you didn't get your away..you guys are assholes


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