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Why Liberals Support Islamic Terrorism, and Oppose Self-Defense Against It

The right of self-defense is the basis of all individual and national freedoms, because if you can't protect yourself, all other rights and freedoms become meaningless. Yet the right of self-defense has been increasingly diminished by liberalism, in favor of "grievance based violence".

Grievance based violence is random and senselessly vicious. It most often targets civilians for brutal reprisals, and yet it remains beloved by liberals... because its participants are said to be moved by their outrage at oppression.

If you've seen an angry mob torching cars or businesses, and assaulting anyone in sight while looting stores-- you've seen the most common example of "grievance based violence". This is the sort of violence that characterizes anything from the mobs of the French revolution to mobs across the Muslim world reacting to the Danish cartoons, to the Crown Heights pogrom or the original Russian pogroms or the mobs in South Africa to the Draft Riots of the Civil War.

The second most common example of "grievance based violence" is of course terrorism, which despite being more organized, is grievance based, randomly targeted and senselessly brutal-- while being justified by a sense of grievance and outrage.

Where self-defense is targeted and moral, "grievance based violence" is random in the sense that it lashes out at a general group, rather than acting in direct self-defense. "Grievance based violence" is also senselessly brutal, from the French mobs parading severed heads, to South Africa's tire neckties, to the pogroms that saw nails gouged into eyes, to the general brutality of terrorist attacks which target civilians-- atrocity is the hallmark of grievance based violence.

Why then do liberals prefer "Grievance based violence" to the right of self-defense?

The right of self-defense presumes a right inherent to the individual and the nation. Liberals routinely reject both individual and national rights in favor of group and class rights. Liberals are also biased against acts of rational self-interest, in favor of emotional expressions of outrage.

Where self-defense is often defined by liberals as a form of entitlement and class privilege. "Grievance based violence" by contrast is treated as a response to intolerable oppression, and an expression of the underclass rising up. Since in the liberal worldview, violence is divided into oppressive and revolutionary violence. Oppressive violence is a function of class privilege, where revolutionary violence is a form of revolutionary justice. So that in the liberal calculus, the middle class homeowner protecting his house from a mob, is practicing "oppressive violence", while the mob is practicing "revolutionary justice".

Understanding this is the most vital part of understanding liberal morality, or lack thereof. Class or group status, defines whether violence is legitimate or not, in the eyes of the liberal.

(Liberals naturally make exceptions for themselves, as progressives are self-defined as revolutionary, therefore liberal violence is never oppressive to liberals within the same degree of ideology, only potentially to liberals further on the left. Which is why liberals stood behind Clinton's ruthless campaign against Yugoslavia, while those further on the left protested against it. Revolutionary purity defines the right to revolutionary violence. Or by contrast why few liberals were willing to oppose Stalin. The further left you go, the greater your right to carry out revolutionary violence.)

Liberals have no problem with violence. They have a problem with violence that does not have a progressive source agenda. They are however willing to shield many forms of violence that are not at all progressive under that umbrella... so long as the violence is directed at a State or group they oppose.

This explains why liberals continue to support Islamic terrorism, when it is not at all progressive or liberal. Similarly Communists in the Czarist period, including Jewish Communists, were willing to support Pogroms against Jewish communities, as a form of revolutionary violence... even when the mobs carrying out the violence had nothing in mind beyond anti-semitism and looting, and the pogroms themselves were actually promoted by the Czarist government ; because they believed that opening the door to any peasant violence served to pave the way for an overthrow of the Czarist government. And Tolstoy, one of the architects of modern pacifism, who had a great deal to say about the evils of violence, was unwilling to condemn the pogroms.

That kind of cynicism is a hallmark of the liberal approach toward violence.

So too, liberals held rallies agitating against war with Nazi Germany... because as long as Nazi Germany threatened Western capitalist powers, they were willing to collaborate with Hitler. Only when Hitler attacked the USSR, did the tide of opinion on the liberal side suddenly sweep to a pro-war sentiment.

Accomplishing the same kind of transformation with Islamic terrorism has however become extremely difficult, because there is no state today that represents an extreme left wing ideal in the way that Lenin and Stalin's Russia did. (Cuba is the closest thing to it.) However were such a state to exist, and were Muslim terrorists to attack it, we would see a lot more Christopher Hitchens' and Nick Cohens' around.

Today liberals see Muslim terrorism, in much the way they once saw Nazis or the pogroms or race riots-- as a tool they could leverage to change the existing power structure. Muslim terrorism is also the successor to progressive terrorism, as carried out by Marxist groups such as the PLO or the PFLC-- which liberal natively supported as "Revolutionary Terrorism". This gives Muslim terrorism a certain open door policy, particularly when the PLO switched from Marxist terrorism to martyr based Islamic terrorism under Arafat and Abbas.

Finally since Muslim terrorists come from the third world, which is considered to be the underclass relative to the first world-- Muslim terrorists are considered to be reacting to First World oppression, regardless of whether they themselves come from wealthy upper class and middle class families. Such details have never mattered to liberals, or Lenin the scion of a noble family, would never have had any credibility leading a "people's revolution".

The left wing understanding of legitimate violence as being based in class and grievance, rather than in self-defense and legal rights, must be countered by emphasizing these values instead. Rational interests must be emphasized over emotional appeals, a game at which liberals are expert at winning.

The core must be to remember that the right of self-defense is the foundation of individual and national rights for a Republic. By contrast for liberals, grievance based violence opens the door to a progressive tyranny, as it did during the French revolution or the fall of the Czars and the following interregnum, or as they still believe it will today.


  1. Anonymous4/1/09

    They identify with evil.

  2. I wonder if they will ever realize that though they might be the last to drown, they will still drown just like the rest of the civilization they are helping to undermine.

  3. Anonymous5/1/09

    It's simple, like the muslims the left loves death and hates humanity more then we love life etc, why do you think they go around being killjoys and regulating or banning whatever enjoyment life-loving people have until life itself is unbearable?

    Whether its simple pleasures like drinking, going out, driving, eating or even watching TV (see the story on muslim terrorists in Somalia killing people for watching the World Cup), its all for the purpose of making people have nothing to left live for other then submitting to either “the party” (impotent god-state) or “allah” (impotent god).

    It may sound callous and extreme but the only thing one can do at the end of the day is to separate from both those death-worshipers, after all and I mean only in the context of this post, the only difference between them and your run of mill suicidal person for lack of a better example is that at least the latter has the bottle to go at it alone keeping it to themselves instead of dragging life-loving people with them out of pure spite (and one can argue perversely out of “loneliness”) like the former since the reality of seeing people live life to the full without them pains them to no end.

  4. Anonymous5/1/09

    it's true that liberals don't have a problem with violence. they hide behind "humane" reasons for being anti war but they don't really care about those people. they only care about their own politics and erasing individuality until we are only allowed to all say and believe the same things. if liberals really cared about humanity they would be marching in the streets for these arab women who are brutalized every day. i've never seen one liberal person i know ever speak out against those crimes. i've never heard one liberal person i know condemn an islamic terrorist attack. not once. not ever.

  5. Anonymous5/1/09

    I have four heads and three zippers on my behind.

    Why don;t you join the military Knish? The IDF is enough for you?
    Where were you in Korea.

    Why won't men date me?
    Is it the zippers? Is it the bottle thick glasses or the cross eyes?
    Is it my huge stuffed nose?
    My enormous butt?

    Yes, I am obssesssed with you and will be unless you tell me you love me.

    Enough of this my zippers are stuck.

  6. SK - Your understanding and ability to express the principles underlying liberalism and terrorists continue to astound me. Keep it up - doors are being opened here. I wish you had a wider venue.

  7. Thank you No Apology, I'm just trying to get at the underlying structure, to formulate a larger understanding of what's going on. It's the way i work.

  8. Fine analysis. I echo No Apology.

  9. Anonymous7/1/09

    'Tranzis' and victim politics: http://www.quebecoislibre.org/021221-6.htm

  10. Anonymous11/5/09

    I enjoy reading your observations and explanations, they are rather easy to understand, don't know if they could be understood by the average Lemming here in the U.S. though. I was wondering if you could address the financial elite who have functioned behind the scenes for centuries all over the world and employ the liberal dogma you so eloquently reveal.

    Greg RN.

  11. averagemelon27/1/10

    Wouldn't life be grand if we all behaved like bees in a beehive? Everyone has their place and does their task without thought or complaint. I am guessing this is what a liberal utopia would look like as long as there is room for more than one queen bee. (Except for the terrorist view, of course, where even a thirteen year old rape victim is stoned by the village). It is astounding to me the way liberals assume they know more about being a human than the rest of us although their analogy never applies to themselves. Thank you, Sultan, for making things so very clear. Keep up the very fine work!

  12. Anonymous11/3/13

    I'm liberal and I NEVER supported any Islamic terrorism. I don't see Muslims reacting against First World oppression. I see them reacting to all things/ people not Muslim. This includes other Muslims. I believe in self defense, but I also believe in people's Civil Rights and justice. This article mentions neither.

  13. that's good, more liberals should be like you

  14. Anonymous25/4/13

    "So too, liberals held rallies agitating against war with Nazi Germany... because as long as Nazi Germany threatened Western capitalist powers, they were willing to collaborate with Hitler. Only when Hitler attacked the USSR, did the tide of opinion on the liberal side suddenly sweep to a pro-war sentiment."

    What planet do you live on? It was conservatives vehemently opposed entering World War II to fight the Nazis, and believed that instead the Nazis should be our allies against the Communists.

  15. This was extremely well written. I read it several times..I admire people than can express what I feel and think, but unable to articulate. Thank you

  16. Anonymous18/4/15

    Long story short liberals are even more retarded than we give them credit for . Useless pieces of shiite .

  17. Anonymous14/11/15

    iberals can support islamic terrorism all they want, but muslim terrorist will keep killing liberals no matter what


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