This is an operational assault and capture of our institutions by organizations with a common ideology. That's what has to be defeated by breaking up their organizations, and removing their grip on our institutions.
I agree that is what we must do..the question is how....institutional entrenchment by its very nature is self perpetuating.....breaking the cycle with logic alone doesn't work...asking people to give up the tangible, secure and obvious for less tangible but more impoRtant concepts like individual freedom that work out best in the long run is very very difficult...
liberalism is a suicidal mental disorder....logic cannot bring them back to reality.Bezmenov described this process as “a great brainwashing” that has four basic stages. The first stage is called “demoralization” which takes from 15 to 20 years to achieve. According to the former KGB agent, that is the minimum number of years it takes to re-educate one generation of students that is normally exposed to the ideology of its country — in other words, the time it takes to change what the people are thinking.
Demoralization is a process that is “irreversible.” "A person who was demoralized is unable to assess true information. The facts tell nothing to him
thats the definition of marxism......how do we convince a generation of true believers that based on hard evidence, it doesn't work..especially when they are going to get free stuff from others...
you demolish the moral arguments for socialism, show how disastrously it's always been implemented and make the practical consequences clear to them, e.g. what socialist medicine actually does in practice
logic and history don't work..people are entrenched...they need to make the connection at a deeper level like how it is going to affect their wallets...explaining personal freedom vs free stuff is a difficult argument to make to the true believer...
In a nutshell: "And then we learned the hard way that they really did hate us, not because of some mustachioed dictator, but because their religion teaches them from the earliest age to hate us.
But by then we had also learned to blame ourselves."
Islamic scripture is replete with assertions of Muslim supremacy over non-Muslims, meaning Islam will never resign itself in any non-Muslim host country to being just one religion among many.
As former Muslim, Ali Sina explains in his book Islam and Understanding the Muslim Mind:
“Muslims will never assimilate … to do so would mean they would essentially have to relinquish their faith, to compromise for something that cannot be abided, noir allowed under Islam, which is full acceptance of the equality between Muslim and non-Muslim.”
Let’s be clear here: immigration without assimilation is invasion.
The primary affiliation of all right-believing Muslims is to the global Ummah, or Islamic Community. This means the vast majority of Muslims will never truly identify as citizens of any non-Islamic nation they might reside in.
Muslims in public office in the West will always prioritize Islam and Islamic causes. They will always work against the interests of the country they claim to belong to, because their loyalty, first and foremost, is to the transnational state of Islam.
Same goes for Muslims in the military of non-Muslim nation states.
Muslims are taught Islamic supremacism from an early age.
Allah tells Muslims at Koran 3:110:
“Ye are the best of Peoples, evolved for mankind, enjoining what is right, forbidding what is wrong, and believing in Allah.”
The Kuffaar [non-Muslim] on the other hand are, according to Koran 98.6: the worst of created beings.”
“Kuffaar” (usually translated as “Infidel” or “Non-Believer”) is not a neutral term, but a term of absolute opprobrium.
Across Koranic language and prophetic instruction, kuffār is a term of moral condemnation, not a neutral identifier. It carries connotations of impurity, obstinacy, inferiority, and deserved punishment, and is embedded within a framework that encourages disdain, separation, and hostility, not coexistence on equal moral footing.
Muslims learn from childhood that Islam must one day dominate the Kuffaar [non-Muslims] and supplant all other religions, and that the divine revelation of Allah’s sharia law will be implemented in every corner of the globe.
Koran 9:33:
“It is he [Allah] who has sent his Messenger [Muhammad] with guidance and the religion
of truth, in order for it to be dominant over all other religions …”
Sahih Muslim 2889:
“Verily Allah has shown me the eastern and western part of the earth, and I saw
the authority of my Ummah dominate all that I saw.”
Here’s Omar Ahmad, founder of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), the main North American Muslim Brotherhood front organisation, speaking in 1998 on these matters:
“Islam isn’t in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Koran should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on earth.”
“The political ascension of Islamists who openly despise us reflects our hatred for ourselves.”
I fail to see how New Yorkers electing Mamdani reflects anything more than New Yorkers being morally confused idiots. His election has nothing to do with the vast majority of Americans who try to ignore the cruelty and stupidity in that terrible city as much as possible.
because if new Yorkers can open that Pandora's box, others will (and have) too....thats why....this is not isolated to New York...liberalism is a national suicidal psychosis...
New York isn’t the same as Utah or Nevada or Montana. Not all cultures in America are the same. What you see in New York City reflects on New York City. It doesn’t reflect on those of us on the other side of the country and it certainly doesn’t reflect on the people in red states.
ok.....but they are increasing their numbers daily thru our corrupted educational system and media......it IS reaching the rural/more conservative areas.....look how the DSA has grown in just 2 years!! And most at the local level.....I think you have your head in the sand..no offense...they are winning because they control the culture.....and it is not Americanism that's winning
Jon, I was trained by David Horowitz just like Daniel was. David was even training me to be his successor until I decided to pass on the job. I worked for him for 2 years as an editor at FrontPageMag. My ex-wife worked with his wife April for her bogus horse charity. Then I went and worked with Barry Rubin for years at PJ media. I brought Robert Spencer with me over to PJ Media and edited him for years. Then I went and worked for years at the Middle East Forum. The I went and worked for years at The Israel Group researching antisemitism on Wikipedia. Then I worked with Steve Emerson for years at the Investigative Project on Terrorism. The last 3.5 years I've been a journalist focused on global antisemitism for JNS and then The Algemeiner.
My eyes are wide open and I know what I'm talking about, but anonymous people like you refuse to listen. You all want to always think that you know more than I do when I'm the one who has actually infiltrated and reported on Muslim Brotherhood conferences.
This is a spiritual battle. Any organization which rewards mothers and fathers to teach their children to kill themselves while performing mass murder on innocent civilians but whose top leaders are protected by armed guards is a cult. Read the long list of cult characteristics.
“The lesson of 9/11 is that we cannot co-exist with those who want to kill us. That simple.”
It isn’t that simple at all because “who want to kill us” is apparently so up for debate still. You just spent a whole piece arguing that Muslims broadly want to kill us.
9/11 doesn’t have one lesson, it has many lessons.
Why do you need to simplify it all so much, Daniel? David could be intellectual and see depth and nuance. Why won’t you?
Muslims are a broad group of people with range. Islam however is driven by the impulse to conquer and subjugate. How Muslims interact with their religious determines whether or not they want to kill us.
I see Islam as driven by many impulses. The conquer and subjugate components are not foundational, since most of the Muslims on the planet do not want to conquer and subjugate. The men who choose to conquer and subjugate are just misuisng Islam to justify it. Men always do that with any ideology or religion. The men who are in ISIS and groups like that aren't really sincere believers. They just want to kill and rape and get women as sex slaves. Islam is just an excuse to do that. Islamism gives men a justification to be misogynists and to dominate over women. That's why they embrace it, not because they are religiously sincere.
Most Muslims believe that Islam is an innately just and right divine system that everyone has to live by to end injustice and corruption in the world. If they didn't believe that, they wouldn't be Muslims.
Most Muslims don’t believe that. Daniel, in any given religion, most of the people in it barely know the basics of the religion. The numbers of Muslims who actually understand the Koran and Hadiths well enough to talk about the theological matters is tiny, just as it is with my faith Christianity.
All religions have people who are moderate and mild and don’t subscribe to literalist interpretations of everything.
Like, I don’t think Jesus was born of a virgin. Some Christians would say by not believing that it means I’m not a Christian. Or they’d cite any number of reasons why I don’t actually count. These lines between who is or isn’t Muslim or what counts as “true Islam” are not defined at all.
The Quran specifically tells Muslims to conquer everything that isn’t under Islam. You live in the House of War, according to Muslims, eternally at war with Islam simply for existing.
Don’t feel too bad, though, Ol’ Thomas Jefferson also found it hard to believe.
When he was ambassador to France and multiple other nations, he met with the representative of the Bey of Tripoli to request they stop attacking US ships and enslaving the crews.
The Bey’s man told him they couldn’t because that was what their religion commanded.
Jefferson, an actual intellectual, managed to get his hands on a copy of the Quran, and lo and behold, it was true.
So when he became president, he sent a naval squadron to fight the Barbary pirates and sacked Tripoli.
This has been the story of Islam and the West since 632 AD. They have attacked us constantly.
You owe an eternal debt to Charles Martel and Jon Sobieski, but you undoubtedly have no idea who they are.
Maurice, I was Robert Spencer's editor for years at PJ Media. I recruited him to write for us since he was my friend. I worked at the Freedom Center with him for 2 years when I was associate editor for FrontPageMag and managing editor of NewsReal Blog. And in 2011, shortly before I left the Center to join PJ, the late Peter Collier asked me for a list of recommendations for the initial round of Shillman Journalism fellows. Everyone who I recommended was hired. The first name on the list was Ben Shapiro and the last name was Daniel Greenfield.
“First we blamed the lack of democracy in the Muslim world. Then we blamed our own intolerance. We blamed Israel. We blamed global warming. We blamed mental illness.
And we blamed everything except Islam.”
A lot of us decided to blame Islamism. That’s the mainstream position in both parties and always has been since 9/11. The late Barry Rubin and Daniel Pipes are ultimately just more persuasive than Robert, you, and others advocating the anti-Islam position.
No, I see it as primarily a product of 1930s fascism and communist organizing techniques. It’s a political ideology specifically from the time in which it was created.
Daniel, after I left the Freedom Center I worked with Barry Rubin at PJ from 2011-2015. I see things his way now instead of the way you and Robert do. I worked for the Middle East Forum twice as long as I did the Freedom Center.
1930's fascism helped create sophisticated organizations like the MB. But behind the organizational sophistication is an ideology that long predated Nazism. The organization is just the delivery mechanism.
“First we blamed the lack of democracy in the Muslim world. Then we blamed our own intolerance. We blamed Israel. We blamed global warming. We blamed mental illness.
And we blamed everything except Islam.”
I don’t understand why you keep talking in terms of “we.” Who is this “we” you keep talking about?
“And then we learned the hard way that they really did hate us, not because of some mustachioed dictator, but because their religion teaches them from the earliest age to hate us.”
Do our allies in the UAE and other peaceful Muslim countries hate us?
Daniel, Israel wants to make peace with every Muslim country it can. It wants more countries to join the Abraham Accords. Shouldn’t we as Zionists be encouraging that instead of suggesting that all Muslims are our enemies?
The UAE was providing weapons to terrorists. Then after an attempted MB coup, it shifted into the anti-MB camp and is opposed to Iran. It's certainly not peaceful. It's just the anti-Qatar in that its operations are currently aligned with us. That can change any time.
Peace is a two-way streets and depends on recognizing reality.
My understanding is they have been supportive of Israel as an ally. What should they have done that they didn’t?
Of course, alliances can change but self-interests usually don’t. It is in the UAE’s interests to stick with us and Israel. I don’t see how that changes.
The heads of the UAE don’t care about Islam as much as they care about their own wealth and power. A lot of the Muslim leaders in the Middle East don’t worship Allah at all. They worship wealth and sex.
sure...but how's that going?? the Iran conflict has made it difficult....noting more is going to be done until Iran is destroyed and Trump blew that opportunity in my opinion...
We need to destroy the Red-Green alliance infiltratimg America.
how?? Logic doesn't work....they are too far gone..
This is an operational assault and capture of our institutions by organizations with a common ideology. That's what has to be defeated by breaking up their organizations, and removing their grip on our institutions.
I agree that is what we must do..the question is how....institutional entrenchment by its very nature is self perpetuating.....breaking the cycle with logic alone doesn't work...asking people to give up the tangible, secure and obvious for less tangible but more impoRtant concepts like individual freedom that work out best in the long run is very very difficult...
Either exercise political and economic power to reform those institutions. Or failing that destroy them.
liberalism is a suicidal mental disorder....logic cannot bring them back to reality.Bezmenov described this process as “a great brainwashing” that has four basic stages. The first stage is called “demoralization” which takes from 15 to 20 years to achieve. According to the former KGB agent, that is the minimum number of years it takes to re-educate one generation of students that is normally exposed to the ideology of its country — in other words, the time it takes to change what the people are thinking.
Demoralization is a process that is “irreversible.” "A person who was demoralized is unable to assess true information. The facts tell nothing to him
it demands that a series of destructive values be placed over and above survival that require the destruction of one's people and culture
thats the definition of marxism......how do we convince a generation of true believers that based on hard evidence, it doesn't work..especially when they are going to get free stuff from others...
you demolish the moral arguments for socialism, show how disastrously it's always been implemented and make the practical consequences clear to them, e.g. what socialist medicine actually does in practice
logic and history don't work..people are entrenched...they need to make the connection at a deeper level like how it is going to affect their wallets...explaining personal freedom vs free stuff is a difficult argument to make to the true believer...
Who is "we" Bubba! I have been railing against this crap since even before 9/11.
In a nutshell: "And then we learned the hard way that they really did hate us, not because of some mustachioed dictator, but because their religion teaches them from the earliest age to hate us.
But by then we had also learned to blame ourselves."
Islamic scripture is replete with assertions of Muslim supremacy over non-Muslims, meaning Islam will never resign itself in any non-Muslim host country to being just one religion among many.
As former Muslim, Ali Sina explains in his book Islam and Understanding the Muslim Mind:
“Muslims will never assimilate … to do so would mean they would essentially have to relinquish their faith, to compromise for something that cannot be abided, noir allowed under Islam, which is full acceptance of the equality between Muslim and non-Muslim.”
Let’s be clear here: immigration without assimilation is invasion.
The primary affiliation of all right-believing Muslims is to the global Ummah, or Islamic Community. This means the vast majority of Muslims will never truly identify as citizens of any non-Islamic nation they might reside in.
Muslims in public office in the West will always prioritize Islam and Islamic causes. They will always work against the interests of the country they claim to belong to, because their loyalty, first and foremost, is to the transnational state of Islam.
Same goes for Muslims in the military of non-Muslim nation states.
Muslims are taught Islamic supremacism from an early age.
Allah tells Muslims at Koran 3:110:
“Ye are the best of Peoples, evolved for mankind, enjoining what is right, forbidding what is wrong, and believing in Allah.”
The Kuffaar [non-Muslim] on the other hand are, according to Koran 98.6: the worst of created beings.”
“Kuffaar” (usually translated as “Infidel” or “Non-Believer”) is not a neutral term, but a term of absolute opprobrium.
Across Koranic language and prophetic instruction, kuffār is a term of moral condemnation, not a neutral identifier. It carries connotations of impurity, obstinacy, inferiority, and deserved punishment, and is embedded within a framework that encourages disdain, separation, and hostility, not coexistence on equal moral footing.
Muslims learn from childhood that Islam must one day dominate the Kuffaar [non-Muslims] and supplant all other religions, and that the divine revelation of Allah’s sharia law will be implemented in every corner of the globe.
Koran 9:33:
“It is he [Allah] who has sent his Messenger [Muhammad] with guidance and the religion
of truth, in order for it to be dominant over all other religions …”
Sahih Muslim 2889:
“Verily Allah has shown me the eastern and western part of the earth, and I saw
the authority of my Ummah dominate all that I saw.”
Here’s Omar Ahmad, founder of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), the main North American Muslim Brotherhood front organisation, speaking in 1998 on these matters:
“Islam isn’t in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Koran should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on earth.”
“The political ascension of Islamists who openly despise us reflects our hatred for ourselves.”
I fail to see how New Yorkers electing Mamdani reflects anything more than New Yorkers being morally confused idiots. His election has nothing to do with the vast majority of Americans who try to ignore the cruelty and stupidity in that terrible city as much as possible.
because if new Yorkers can open that Pandora's box, others will (and have) too....thats why....this is not isolated to New York...liberalism is a national suicidal psychosis...
New York isn’t the same as Utah or Nevada or Montana. Not all cultures in America are the same. What you see in New York City reflects on New York City. It doesn’t reflect on those of us on the other side of the country and it certainly doesn’t reflect on the people in red states.
ok.....but they are increasing their numbers daily thru our corrupted educational system and media......it IS reaching the rural/more conservative areas.....look how the DSA has grown in just 2 years!! And most at the local level.....I think you have your head in the sand..no offense...they are winning because they control the culture.....and it is not Americanism that's winning
Jon, I was trained by David Horowitz just like Daniel was. David was even training me to be his successor until I decided to pass on the job. I worked for him for 2 years as an editor at FrontPageMag. My ex-wife worked with his wife April for her bogus horse charity. Then I went and worked with Barry Rubin for years at PJ media. I brought Robert Spencer with me over to PJ Media and edited him for years. Then I went and worked for years at the Middle East Forum. The I went and worked for years at The Israel Group researching antisemitism on Wikipedia. Then I worked with Steve Emerson for years at the Investigative Project on Terrorism. The last 3.5 years I've been a journalist focused on global antisemitism for JNS and then The Algemeiner.
My eyes are wide open and I know what I'm talking about, but anonymous people like you refuse to listen. You all want to always think that you know more than I do when I'm the one who has actually infiltrated and reported on Muslim Brotherhood conferences.
This is a spiritual battle. Any organization which rewards mothers and fathers to teach their children to kill themselves while performing mass murder on innocent civilians but whose top leaders are protected by armed guards is a cult. Read the long list of cult characteristics.
They paid/bribed their way in! Our “representatives”were glad to take their money and look the other way…
The real Truth?
The lunatic liberals and the Islamist hate us to death. Along with their many, many, useful idiots.
“The lesson of 9/11 is that we cannot co-exist with those who want to kill us. That simple.”
It isn’t that simple at all because “who want to kill us” is apparently so up for debate still. You just spent a whole piece arguing that Muslims broadly want to kill us.
9/11 doesn’t have one lesson, it has many lessons.
Why do you need to simplify it all so much, Daniel? David could be intellectual and see depth and nuance. Why won’t you?
Muslims are a broad group of people with range. Islam however is driven by the impulse to conquer and subjugate. How Muslims interact with their religious determines whether or not they want to kill us.
I see Islam as driven by many impulses. The conquer and subjugate components are not foundational, since most of the Muslims on the planet do not want to conquer and subjugate. The men who choose to conquer and subjugate are just misuisng Islam to justify it. Men always do that with any ideology or religion. The men who are in ISIS and groups like that aren't really sincere believers. They just want to kill and rape and get women as sex slaves. Islam is just an excuse to do that. Islamism gives men a justification to be misogynists and to dominate over women. That's why they embrace it, not because they are religiously sincere.
Most Muslims believe that Islam is an innately just and right divine system that everyone has to live by to end injustice and corruption in the world. If they didn't believe that, they wouldn't be Muslims.
Most Muslims don’t believe that. Daniel, in any given religion, most of the people in it barely know the basics of the religion. The numbers of Muslims who actually understand the Koran and Hadiths well enough to talk about the theological matters is tiny, just as it is with my faith Christianity.
All religions have people who are moderate and mild and don’t subscribe to literalist interpretations of everything.
Like, I don’t think Jesus was born of a virgin. Some Christians would say by not believing that it means I’m not a Christian. Or they’d cite any number of reasons why I don’t actually count. These lines between who is or isn’t Muslim or what counts as “true Islam” are not defined at all.
Well, you are wrong.
You haven’t read the Quran.
The Quran specifically tells Muslims to conquer everything that isn’t under Islam. You live in the House of War, according to Muslims, eternally at war with Islam simply for existing.
Don’t feel too bad, though, Ol’ Thomas Jefferson also found it hard to believe.
When he was ambassador to France and multiple other nations, he met with the representative of the Bey of Tripoli to request they stop attacking US ships and enslaving the crews.
The Bey’s man told him they couldn’t because that was what their religion commanded.
Jefferson, an actual intellectual, managed to get his hands on a copy of the Quran, and lo and behold, it was true.
So when he became president, he sent a naval squadron to fight the Barbary pirates and sacked Tripoli.
This has been the story of Islam and the West since 632 AD. They have attacked us constantly.
You owe an eternal debt to Charles Martel and Jon Sobieski, but you undoubtedly have no idea who they are.
Maurice, I was Robert Spencer's editor for years at PJ Media. I recruited him to write for us since he was my friend. I worked at the Freedom Center with him for 2 years when I was associate editor for FrontPageMag and managing editor of NewsReal Blog. And in 2011, shortly before I left the Center to join PJ, the late Peter Collier asked me for a list of recommendations for the initial round of Shillman Journalism fellows. Everyone who I recommended was hired. The first name on the list was Ben Shapiro and the last name was Daniel Greenfield.
“First we blamed the lack of democracy in the Muslim world. Then we blamed our own intolerance. We blamed Israel. We blamed global warming. We blamed mental illness.
And we blamed everything except Islam.”
A lot of us decided to blame Islamism. That’s the mainstream position in both parties and always has been since 9/11. The late Barry Rubin and Daniel Pipes are ultimately just more persuasive than Robert, you, and others advocating the anti-Islam position.
Islamism is simply the implementation of Islam. Or rather Islam taken seriously.
No, I see it as primarily a product of 1930s fascism and communist organizing techniques. It’s a political ideology specifically from the time in which it was created.
Daniel, after I left the Freedom Center I worked with Barry Rubin at PJ from 2011-2015. I see things his way now instead of the way you and Robert do. I worked for the Middle East Forum twice as long as I did the Freedom Center.
1930's fascism helped create sophisticated organizations like the MB. But behind the organizational sophistication is an ideology that long predated Nazism. The organization is just the delivery mechanism.
Ideology is a modern invention.
“First we blamed the lack of democracy in the Muslim world. Then we blamed our own intolerance. We blamed Israel. We blamed global warming. We blamed mental illness.
And we blamed everything except Islam.”
I don’t understand why you keep talking in terms of “we.” Who is this “we” you keep talking about?
“And then we learned the hard way that they really did hate us, not because of some mustachioed dictator, but because their religion teaches them from the earliest age to hate us.”
Do our allies in the UAE and other peaceful Muslim countries hate us?
Daniel, Israel wants to make peace with every Muslim country it can. It wants more countries to join the Abraham Accords. Shouldn’t we as Zionists be encouraging that instead of suggesting that all Muslims are our enemies?
The UAE was providing weapons to terrorists. Then after an attempted MB coup, it shifted into the anti-MB camp and is opposed to Iran. It's certainly not peaceful. It's just the anti-Qatar in that its operations are currently aligned with us. That can change any time.
Peace is a two-way streets and depends on recognizing reality.
Change any time? You think the UAE is all of a sudden going to abandon Israel and us? How would that benefit them?
What was the UAE's response to Oct 7 and its long term response?
This is the Middle East. Alliances change on a dime. Watch the game the Saudis have been playing in just the last 10 years.
My understanding is they have been supportive of Israel as an ally. What should they have done that they didn’t?
Of course, alliances can change but self-interests usually don’t. It is in the UAE’s interests to stick with us and Israel. I don’t see how that changes.
The heads of the UAE don’t care about Islam as much as they care about their own wealth and power. A lot of the Muslim leaders in the Middle East don’t worship Allah at all. They worship wealth and sex.
Don’t take everyone at face value, Daniel.
how's that 'can't we just get along' working out...??
Do you want more Muslim countries to join the Abraham Accords? Yes or no?
sure...but how's that going?? the Iran conflict has made it difficult....noting more is going to be done until Iran is destroyed and Trump blew that opportunity in my opinion...
It’s going well. Are you aware of the great diplomatic progress Israel is making with Somaliland?