tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post8982500230988050097..comments2024-03-18T19:14:18.804-04:00Comments on Daniel Greenfield / Sultan Knish Articles at DanielGreenfield.org : EXCLUSIVE: Condoleeza Rice Honors a Hizbullah / Fatah PropogandistDaniel Greenfieldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comBlogger48125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-58549723532663557552008-03-13T08:59:00.000-04:002008-03-13T08:59:00.000-04:00I just linked to this.I just <A HREF="http://ibloga.blogspot.com/2008/03/dhimmi-condoleeza-rice.html" REL="nofollow">linked</A> to this.Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-22253371550378925342008-03-13T08:30:00.000-04:002008-03-13T08:30:00.000-04:00Condoleezza Rice, quote of the week:"We have all h...Condoleezza Rice, quote of the week:<BR/><BR/>"We have all had the experience of perhaps saying things that we wish we hadn't said..."<BR/> <BR/>http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?c=JPArticle&cid=1205261316915&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull<BR/> <BR/>US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice defended Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas while testifying before the US Congress on Wednesday. <BR/><BR/>"I am confident that President Abbas is somebody who is committed to the negotiated solution of this issue, and recognizes that only a negotiated solution is going to result in a Palestinian state," Rice said in response to a question on comments Abbas made in a recent interview, quoting him in part as saying, "I am opposed to armed struggle because we cannot succeed in it, but maybe in the future things will be different." <BR/> <BR/>Many interpreted those comments as supporting armed struggle. <BR/> <BR/>"We have all had the experience of perhaps saying things that we wish we hadn't said, and I can just tell you that this is somebody who for many, many years now has rejected violence as a means to statehood," Rice said, noting that Abbas had later said the comments were taken out of context. "I can't account for his comments. I think they were extremely unfortunate. We made that very clear to him."steve kleinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01909283816016502418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-57823228314610111152008-03-12T22:16:00.000-04:002008-03-12T22:16:00.000-04:00Carter stablished an Islamic regim in Iran, Condi ...Carter stablished an Islamic regim in Iran, Condi stablished an Islamic regim in Gaza(Hamas)and is working to develop and Islamic regim in Iraq. so far it was the leftists who were stablishing Islamic governments in the middle East but now Carter and Condi are working together to sell Israel to Islamists and stablish an Arab-Islamic regim in Israel. They have much help from Europe and many Islamic countries too. the result?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-34876553075691568812008-03-12T21:26:00.000-04:002008-03-12T21:26:00.000-04:00I have to disagree with ya Lemon. Bush doesn't be...I have to disagree with ya Lemon. Bush doesn't believe a pee-el-uh-oh state will make them quit picking on Israel. He wants the Jews out. He doesn't want a Jewish Israel. It was his game plan long before he was fully in politics. <BR/><BR/>Of course, if I hadn't read newspapers myself, I wouldn't believe it either, but unfortunately, I did and he is.<BR/><BR/>steve: it's a good thing they're suspicious. The reason x-tians are pro-Israel and want us to rebuild the Temple, etc. is because they believe it will bring their "messiah" and we Jews will be destroyed for rejecting their "messiah." <BR/><BR/>In their belief, only 144,000 Jews will accept their "messiah" and the rest of us are doomed to hell for eternity for refusing. So. Don't trust them.Yobeeonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13067866336964665242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-72987297099152762102008-03-12T21:06:00.000-04:002008-03-12T21:06:00.000-04:00The Kuwaiti News Service, Al Watan", puts Condolee...The <A HREF="http://israelmatzav.blogspot.com/2008/03/kuwaiti-newspaper-op-ed-condemns-merkaz.html" REL="nofollow">Kuwaiti News Service, Al Watan"</A>, puts Condoleezza Rice (not to mention Olmert) to shame???!!!<BR/><BR/>Oink, Gevalt!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-3219666674995385352008-03-12T20:45:00.000-04:002008-03-12T20:45:00.000-04:00"the real gap is not awareness so much as understa...<EM>"the real gap is not awareness so much as understanding"</EM><BR/><BR/>...or, in engineering terms,....<BR/>...(understanding/awareness)<<1 ?)<BR/><BR/>That makes sense.<BR/><BR/>Still, I think 7 years is time enough to come to understand what he should have become aware of in that time. A leader shouldn't make such critical policy off the cuff. He should immerse himself in it, and when it doesn't work, he should ask himself "Why?"<BR/><BR/>If we say he's been misinformed, the lack of success of policies based on his advisors disinformation should have long ago raised a whole lot of red flags for him.<BR/><BR/>I can't fault him for not being more Jewish than Olmert, but I can fault him for treating America's enemies as potential friends. <A HREF="http://thejewishstate.net/feb1508podhoretz.html" REL="nofollow">As Mark Steyn so correctly observed</A>, <B><EM>"We don't have the same excuse that Neville Chamberlain and Lord Halifax had 70 years ago, because our appeasement is done knowing full well the consequences of what happened the last time round,..."</EM></B><BR/><BR/>And these enemies are orders of magnitude worse than the Nazis, who did it for political ideology, not religious.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-92178069398490856682008-03-12T18:31:00.000-04:002008-03-12T18:31:00.000-04:00i don't forgive him for it either but a president...i don't forgive him for it either but a president who expresses an ideal and then compromises it is nothing new either<BR/><BR/>as I've said many times, there are no pro israel presidents... a pro-israel president is just the one who pressures israel the leastDaniel Greenfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-35595268550850816422008-03-12T18:09:00.000-04:002008-03-12T18:09:00.000-04:00"a president in the end knows what he's told and b..."a president in the end knows what he's told and bush has been committed to the idea of distinguishing between moderates and extremists and the administration is tuning out any issue that questions that..."<BR/><BR/>You know what? I think you are right. Still I do not excuse him. In his September 20, 2001 address to the nation and to a joint session of Congress, he seemed to have no problem laying things out in black and white, good vs. evil. "You are either with us or you are with the terrorists."<BR/><BR/>Ever since then, he has done virtually everything in his power to prove he is with the jihadist "terrorists."<BR/><BR/>And other thing I will not forgive him for. He is attempting to make this distinction between the jihadists murdering the Jews in Israel and the jihadists that murdered and seek to murder Americans. <BR/><BR/>Hamas, Fatah, Islamic Jihad, Chechan jihadists, Hezbollah, Iranian Republican Gaurd, Islamic Brotherhood, al Qaeda, etc., are all part and parcel of the global jihad. Some jihadists operate on a more localized basis like Hamas and Fatah; others on a more regional and global scale like Al Qaeda and the Iranians. I've read enough to know these groups meet in Iran, in Pakistan and other places and they are all brothers (even Sunni and Shiite jihadists) in the struggle to destroy non-Islamic states throughout the globe.<BR/><BR/>To believe otherwise as Bush and Rice believe is evil. This man possesses too much information for me to forgive him. What is Bush going to say to you or me? "You possess information I've not been given by my advisors." (?)<BR/><BR/>Sorry. I don't buy it.steve kleinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01909283816016502418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-77778405123354205202008-03-12T17:38:00.000-04:002008-03-12T17:38:00.000-04:00the real gap is not awareness so much as understan...the real gap is not awareness so much as understanding<BR/><BR/>and the understanding gap is a very real issue in modern day life when you're dealing with a massive propaganda machine whose ideas have become the social consensus<BR/><BR/>a president in the end knows what he's told and bush has been committed to the idea of distinguishing between moderates and extremists and the administration is tuning out any issue that questions thatDaniel Greenfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-26327620295584971372008-03-12T17:21:00.000-04:002008-03-12T17:21:00.000-04:00"Besides, there is this principle in Jewish law (w...<EM>"Besides, there is this principle in Jewish law (which I happen to believe applies universally) that doing a great evil or sin unintentionally is no justification."</EM><BR/><BR/>True, there's no justification. But the consequences are worlds apart, as are the punishments.<BR/><BR/>E.g., if someone is about to commit murder, he can't be convicted by a Beit Din unless at least two valid witnesses saw him AND WARNED HIM that he was violating the Torah. And even then, if a sufficient time lapses after that warning, and he commits the murder without another warning, we can't convict because he might have forgotten. And those are just a few of the hurdles we have to go through to convict.<BR/><BR/>So, for the perp, there is a huge difference. But, since we can't know what is in another's heart, we can't judge him for his intentions. Hashem, however, can, and will - as he deserves.<BR/><BR/>That said, I personally don't see any way he could not know what he was doing, given all the info available. The Paleos are evil savages, and giving them a state (and I have been saying this ad nauseum for the last 7 years) is more irresponsible than giving a homicidal maniac a loaded gun.<BR/><BR/>I do agree that what he's doing will bring him shame, and the USA great harm. But based on what I know of the man, I think he really is trying to do what he thinks is right. He's probably just caught up in the maelstrom of insanity pervading modern governments everywhere. He is, as best I can tell, a classic tragic figure.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-16597493523462495022008-03-12T16:55:00.000-04:002008-03-12T16:55:00.000-04:00"condoleeza rice has excelled at communicating the...<EM>"condoleeza rice has excelled at communicating their agenda to bush in a way he finds understandable and acceptable"</EM> S.K.<BR/><BR/>Yes. In terms of the classics we might say that while Ms. Pelosi is Bush's <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scylla" REL="nofollow">"Scylla"</A> (Silla) [the Dems have consumed many of Bush's original crew], Ms. Rice is his <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charybdis" REL="nofollow">"Charybdis</A>"(Car-Rib-Dis)."<BR/><BR/>In any case, Bush's story might eventually be seen to be a classic tragedy, that of a decent person who meant well but didn't realize his degredation 'till it was too late, unless he comes to his senses really soon.<BR/><BR/>The Democrats, of course, could also be compared to the <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harpies" REL="nofollow">Harpies</A> who "snatch" from him any real accomplishments.<BR/><BR/>[Sorry for mixing the imagery a bit, but in the modern age we do have unlimited poetic license.]Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-44331086544611535322008-03-12T15:59:00.000-04:002008-03-12T15:59:00.000-04:00most sane conservative commentators have come arou...most sane conservative commentators have come around to understanding that 8 years of obama is too great a risk <BR/><BR/>they may not like mccain but he's the lesser of two evils<BR/><BR/>I recommended Ronen's video because it's actually relevant to what's going on in israel instead of an outsider throwing together a hodgepodge of conspiracies based on their own scriptureDaniel Greenfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-9910148924723667552008-03-12T15:58:00.000-04:002008-03-12T15:58:00.000-04:00Sacrifices and whether the sacrifice at all can be...Sacrifices and whether the sacrifice at all can be brought in the first place differs depending on whether he performed the act intentionally or unintentionally.<BR/><BR/>Killing someone unintentionally does not earn you a death penalty. Killing someone intentionally does. <BR/><BR/>Motive and awareness are an issue in Jewish law as they are everywhere else.Daniel Greenfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-50893970511943802542008-03-12T15:56:00.000-04:002008-03-12T15:56:00.000-04:00In other words, ignorance of the law is no excuse?...In other words, ignorance of the law is no excuse?<BR/><BR/>I would agree that.Keli Atahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05089132216830000713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-30761407299678342862008-03-12T14:32:00.000-04:002008-03-12T14:32:00.000-04:00"I would rather recommend..."Just curious. Little..."I would rather recommend..."<BR/><BR/>Just curious. Little doubt, you've read Ellen Horowitz and other columnists who are very suspicious of the vast majority of pro-Israel Christians; believing their support is not pure nor unconditional; most have ulterior motives, etc.<BR/><BR/>Is this your view?steve kleinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01909283816016502418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-22542441119272320292008-03-12T14:23:00.000-04:002008-03-12T14:23:00.000-04:00A little off topic.Am I the only one? Has anyone ...A little off topic.<BR/><BR/>Am I the only one? Has anyone noticed how Rush Limbaugh has "come around?" He's come around to the pragmatic political position.<BR/><BR/>I'm not sure where Ann Coulter stands today. Earlier, Coulter said she would vote for Clinton before she would vote for McCain. Limbaugh seemed to indicate the same or that he might not vote in November. That was earlier. He let this one caller -- Republican party activist -- state she will not vote come November if McCain is the nominee. Limbaugh showered her with "I am hearing from Republicans all over the country who feel just like you!" But Limbaugh also had his share of angry callers and e-mail.<BR/><BR/>Now Limbaugh says "I want to win!" At first I thought he meant he wanted conservative principles (which he and Hannity swear they will never compromise) to win. Now it seems clear he wants "our side" -- read: John McCain -- to win in November.<BR/><BR/>Seems to me, Limbaugh bowed to some (perhaps) heavy handed pressure. No?steve kleinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01909283816016502418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-82482506906053136582008-03-12T14:12:00.000-04:002008-03-12T14:12:00.000-04:00I am not sure what this verse is supposed to mean ...I am not sure what this verse is supposed to mean in light of what I wrote. If someone kills a man unintentionally, he can flee to a city of refuge and live there until the death of the high priest. I think that is how it goes. If the man is found outside the city of refuge before the death of the priest, a blood avenger (I believe this is a blood relative) can put the man slayer to death and not be guilty of murder.<BR/><BR/>What I was referring to is this:<BR/><BR/>"Now if a person sins and does any of the things which the Lord has commanded not to be done, though he was unaware, still he is guilty and shall bear his punishment. <BR/><BR/>"He is then to bring to the priest a ram without defect from the flock, according to your valuation, for a guilt offering..... "It is a guilt offering; he was certainly guilty before the Lord." Vayikra (Leviticus) chapter 5<BR/><BR/>He did it unintentionally. Still, he is guilty and shall bear his punishment. I have done bad things unintentionally (I think we all have) still I was guilty and I can remember paying a price for it; ultimately I paid for it.<BR/><BR/>So, I believe will Bush and America for Bush's sin against Israel and the land of Israel; regardless, if he is doing it with malice and with intent (I have no reason to believe he is not) or if he is doing it inadvertantly and without intent, this nation I believe will suffer for it.steve kleinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01909283816016502418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-87766936129027564452008-03-12T13:53:00.000-04:002008-03-12T13:53:00.000-04:00"Besides, there is this principle in Jewish law (w..."Besides, there is this principle in Jewish law (which I happen to believe applies universally) that doing a great evil or sin unintentionally is no justification."<BR/><BR/>Exodus 21 12-13Daniel Greenfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-53389127591855223332008-03-12T13:44:00.000-04:002008-03-12T13:44:00.000-04:00I can see where Exodus 21 12-13 pertains to uninte...I can see where Exodus 21 12-13 pertains to unintentional crimes. But you wrote international crimes. Or did you mean to write "intentional" crimes?steve kleinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01909283816016502418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-23422629703858132132008-03-12T13:14:00.000-04:002008-03-12T13:14:00.000-04:00I would rather recommendhttp://www.jerusalemconfer...I would rather recommend<BR/><BR/>http://www.jerusalemconference.com/galleries/video.aspx<BR/><BR/>2nd row, video on the right... for those who understand hebrewDaniel Greenfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-12210284105007529082008-03-12T13:08:00.000-04:002008-03-12T13:08:00.000-04:00"For Dr. Rice the struggle of the Palestinians is ..."For Dr. Rice the struggle of the Palestinians is analogous to that of the Afro-Americans for civil rights and she identifies with the Palestinians. She recalled what it meant to travel in segregated buses as a little girl in Alabama. She also compared the head of the Palestinian Authority, Mahmoud Abbas, to Reverend Martin Luther King, because, in her mind, both were committed to peace." from The Bulletin (Philadelphia, October 17, 2007Chana @ Lemon Lime Moonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11656854855385193867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-51644045281831415612008-03-12T13:07:00.000-04:002008-03-12T13:07:00.000-04:00Just got this from AFSI:http://youtube.com/watch?v...Just got this from AFSI:<BR/><BR/>http://youtube.com/watch?v=t0XOtQvpZMw&feature=relatedsteve kleinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01909283816016502418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-13957905383271682412008-03-12T12:59:00.000-04:002008-03-12T12:59:00.000-04:00Exodus 21 12-13Exodus 21 12-13Daniel Greenfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-80913247959211273062008-03-12T12:56:00.000-04:002008-03-12T12:56:00.000-04:00Steve, Bush is not an "evil" man he is a naive guy...Steve, Bush is not an "evil" man he is a naive guy who thinks he is making peace. He is doing it all wrong but he is not Stalin and he is not Hitler. Don't get your underwear in a twist here.<BR/>To a basically secular world Israel is just another nation. <BR/>To a lot of people making peace at any cost is how they do things for others.<BR/>When it comes up close and personal..such as if the US was being pressed to give Texas to Mexico it would be a whole other story.<BR/>From a distance though, most people have no concern about Israel or Yugoslavia etc.Chana @ Lemon Lime Moonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11656854855385193867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-34973550966416196442008-03-12T12:49:00.000-04:002008-03-12T12:49:00.000-04:00Sorry, I do not know what you mean, "Jewish law di...Sorry, I do not know what you mean, "Jewish law distinguishes between international and unintentional crimes." What is an international crime?<BR/><BR/>One more thing, if you wish to provide evidence, I will have to see it defined or deliniated in the written Torah (law of Moses). Though I believe there is great wisdom in Oral law, I do not hold it in the same regard as I do the written Torah.<BR/><BR/>I am interested in reading this when you have a chance to point to the text. If it is in Talmud, then cite the verse in Talmad. I have the Soncino translation; the entire set.steve kleinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01909283816016502418noreply@blogger.com