tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post8666647521982073176..comments2024-03-18T19:14:18.804-04:00Comments on Daniel Greenfield / Sultan Knish Articles at DanielGreenfield.org : Winning the PeaceDaniel Greenfieldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-14199895389883408082012-11-23T07:00:47.481-05:002012-11-23T07:00:47.481-05:00OT but I'd bet a far share of the Hamas terror...OT but I'd bet a far share of the Hamas terrorists are among those released as part of the Gilad Shalit deal months ago.<br /><br />Keliatahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11413494251297514882noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-44124521360812402052012-11-22T14:48:41.059-05:002012-11-22T14:48:41.059-05:00The repercussions from the last Gaza interdiction ...The repercussions from the last Gaza interdiction no doubt wet the feet of the Israelis this time around. Who knows the pressure being applied, including from us, their one and only one (pseudo) ally. Still, why give concessions? That only muddles the moral ground. If Hamas was in the wrong, why should they profit? It's one thing to refrain from killing your enemy; it's another to reward him for his transgressions against you. Ravishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15086445773067927260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-34808344815099190862012-11-21T22:12:03.142-05:002012-11-21T22:12:03.142-05:00I don't suppose we'll ever know how much B...I don't suppose we'll ever know how much Barry promised to pay the puppeteers in Egypt to restrain its terrorist protege. Or what he threatened Bibi with to get his acquiescence. As feckless as Bibi has been in the past, his political career is on the line now from a fed-up Israeli electorate, especially now that Tel Aviv's distracted seculars have had their "bubble" pierced by Iranian rockets.<br /><br />When Hamas inevitably breaks the ceasefire, maybe whoever has replaced Bibi will have the cahones to cut off Gaza's water and electricity until Hamas surrenders. Dick Stanleyhttp://www.texasscribbler.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-38058550793315894902012-11-21T21:11:09.710-05:002012-11-21T21:11:09.710-05:00Another sad day for Israel. Capitulation=suicide. ...Another sad day for Israel. Capitulation=suicide. Kick hamas ass once and for all. And that goes for any and all enemies. Time to take off the gloves and flatten hamas/gaza. Then nuke Iran!Nat's daughternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-73091760334646385102012-11-21T21:02:25.839-05:002012-11-21T21:02:25.839-05:00The only ones provoking a war to take down Syria a...The only ones provoking a war to take down Syria are Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Qatar.<br /><br />Israel has no interest in taking down Iran. Just in ending its nuclear program.<br /><br />It doesn't matter by how much Israel outguns Hamas (that's Hamas by the way, not 'Gaza') if it doesn't use it to put an end to the attacks.<br /><br />Kind of like how the US outguns Al Qaeda.Daniel Greenfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-10524753530725514792012-11-21T20:38:30.197-05:002012-11-21T20:38:30.197-05:00Elisander Israel is defending itself just dandy. T...Elisander Israel is defending itself just dandy. Take a look at the mess in gaza compare it to Israel. Israel outguns Gaza a million to oneAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-84421217087362807452012-11-21T20:37:11.325-05:002012-11-21T20:37:11.325-05:00Israel has been engaged in a long drawn out strugg...Israel has been engaged in a long drawn out struggle for the moral high ground.<br />By provoking wars in order to take down Syria and Iran?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-77081952256803241552012-11-21T20:13:03.003-05:002012-11-21T20:13:03.003-05:00It is hard to imagine a leader like Menachem Begin...It is hard to imagine a leader like Menachem Begin concluding a war that would determine the matter of future Israeli deterrence they way Bibi Netanyahu did. If you think the Iranians will take Netanyahu's continued bombastic comments about them with any degree of<br />credibility, think again. Israel is a well-armed paper tiger that lives by international approval.<br />Netanyahu has established himself as being<br />on the same par as Olmert in terms of that failed war in Lebanon in 2006, and Obama has had a great bone tossed to his Muslim Brotherhood buddies in Egypt by Bibi's ceasefire. So sad.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-24868404820868531622012-11-21T20:04:32.078-05:002012-11-21T20:04:32.078-05:00There are no words for how absurd this situation i...There are no words for how absurd this situation is. War is being waged on Israel, and they can't even defend themselves for fear of upsetting people, and worse, they feed, clothe, and provide electricity for those who proclaim daily that their sole purpose in life it to annihilate them. That isn't morality. That's suicidal insanity.Elisandranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-61298147439189751452012-11-21T17:26:07.153-05:002012-11-21T17:26:07.153-05:00Daniel,
While you decided to delete an earlier p...Daniel,<br /><br /> While you decided to delete an earlier post, I think reality, and a flawed cease-fire, proves my point. Israel cannot seek to achieve militarily what American Jews do not vociferously support with their political contributions and votes. Obama can feel quite confident, to have turned his thumb down on a ground offensive, as if he was in a Roman Casear, because of the American Jewish election suport. Quite pathetic and sad,for us as a people, when as the pundit said, we not only vote like Puerto Ricans, but think our interests are simply that of other peoples and liberal bromides as well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-51895914303271887462012-11-21T15:19:09.485-05:002012-11-21T15:19:09.485-05:00Daniel; You have the gifts of observation,thoughtf...Daniel; You have the gifts of observation,thoughtfulness and expression. You could be a wonderful author. The world needs you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-63968191025261007952012-11-21T12:59:34.260-05:002012-11-21T12:59:34.260-05:00If Israelis under fire would behave exactly as the...If Israelis under fire would behave exactly as the Arabs do there would suddenly be less provocation and more respect. Like a dog, the Islamist is content under powerful constraints but exited by weakness. The Israelis would do better go full Roman and rule the middle-east than be a pinata. james wilsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06423091782308888563noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-40216976599398123242012-11-21T12:15:56.024-05:002012-11-21T12:15:56.024-05:00"In the seventies, after Israel had ton a few..."In the seventies, after Israel had ton a few too many wars, Henry "Woodcutter" Kissinger, suggested that it lose a war to gain the sympathy of the world."<br /><br /><br />Who cares about the world's sympathy when the Jewish death toll keeps rising? What an idiot Kissinger was. Keliatahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11413494251297514882noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-28520799351698349832012-11-21T12:13:25.105-05:002012-11-21T12:13:25.105-05:00That's very interesting Shlomo. I heard a rabb...That's very interesting Shlomo. I heard a rabbi say that. Keliatahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11413494251297514882noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-77915075426268861862012-11-21T12:11:11.135-05:002012-11-21T12:11:11.135-05:00More IDF soldiers need to hear the command-- Enemy...More IDF soldiers need to hear the command-- Enemy! Fire!Keliatahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11413494251297514882noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-29923350810462129662012-11-21T10:49:43.200-05:002012-11-21T10:49:43.200-05:00Excellent article, as usual. My favorite quote is:...Excellent article, as usual. My favorite quote is: "that part of the world located in an ugly modernist building overlooking Turtle Bay, which the turtles would like to have back". Shouldn't the UN increase its moral standing by returning Turtle Bay to its original occupants?<br /><br />I think the best way for Israel to win the "moral high ground" is to wipe out Hamas and the other terrorists in the area. That will certainly greatly improve the moral quality of the whole region.<br /><br />By the way, I find it interesting the the word "hamas" in Hebrew means "violent robbery" (see parshas Noah, and the reason for which Hashem decided to wipe out mankind).Shlomo ben Shmuelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-31977894680932650122012-11-21T10:23:50.583-05:002012-11-21T10:23:50.583-05:00From david mamet, a lucid appraisal:
"Their...From david mamet, a lucid appraisal: <br /><br />"Their wishes are well and good, but this does not accord with the experience of anyone. People have differing needs. The notion that an honest exchange of views will solve all problems in an article of faith; which, like many another, is suspended in our daily lives. It is fine for the uninvolved to say of everything, “The truth must lie somewhere in between,” but who on the left says so, for example, of Abortion? The Israelis would like to live in peace within their borders; the Arabs would like to kill them all. I do not see where there is a middle ground. <br />The divorcing husband would like to retain some money and visiting rights to this children, the betrayed wife would like him dead; anyone ever involved in a fight or a lawsuit knows that some conflicts cannot be settled peaceably. The liberal attitude to our war with Radical Islam is a preference for that action which would end the conflict immediately, and without rancor. That action, unfortunately, is surrender."<br />aaron snydernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-16789225591564979102012-11-21T10:16:35.772-05:002012-11-21T10:16:35.772-05:00I beg to differ, Daniel. Israel does have the mora...I beg to differ, Daniel. Israel does have the moral high ground. It is a secular state and the only moral and civilized country in the Mideast. It is fighting for its existence, and for its right to exist. That is its moral high ground, the same high ground as that of a man who fights a mugger, or a woman who fights a rapist by damaging his genitals, or a child who reports a priest or other predator with roaming hands, or a shop clerk who shoots a stick-up artist. In WWII, the Allies had the moral high ground, and that high ground permitted it to defeat two totalitarian régimes (but unfortunately, by making the Soviet Union an ally, perpetuating that régime) by bombing an enemy without regard to the "collateral damage" of civilians. The policy was: You guys made your bed with the aggressors, so, deal with it. That was the moral high ground. You said it yourself: War isn't there to hold tea parties with the enemy and play endless rounds of "Scissors, Rock, Paper." It's waged to win, and the aggressed-upon must fight it to win. Yes, Daniel, Israel has the moral high ground. It must say so loud and clear so that even the clueless MSM hears it and changes its tune. I'm waiting to hear that from Israel.Edward Clinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12160209827969614964noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-59505899743500699442012-11-21T08:50:44.105-05:002012-11-21T08:50:44.105-05:00Like their American counterparts, Israel’s ruling ...<i>Like their American counterparts, Israel’s ruling elites do not “understand the delicious appeal of hatred.” They will not face the fact that man is a killer. They have learned nothing from the genocidal wars and wholesale massacres of the twentieth century, not merely in Nazi Germany, but also in Yugoslavia, Rwanda, Bangladesh, Iraq, Sudan—to name only a few. There are human beings who enjoy killing. Even if it be said that they are a minority, it does not take many enthusiastic killers, says Peters, to trigger a genocidal war. The Arab “Palestinian Authority” directs many of these killers and deliberately educates Arab children to emulate them.</i> <a href="http://i-ari.org/kill-for-peace" rel="nofollow">Paul Eidelberg | Kill for Peace</a>Leohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09675076348134024844noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-71015175097835834982012-11-21T08:49:18.575-05:002012-11-21T08:49:18.575-05:00Sun Tzu would be appalled by the alacrity with whi...<i>Sun Tzu would be appalled by the alacrity with which Israeli governments engage in cease fires or “hudnas,” which allow Arab terrorists to regroup and accumulate more and deadlier weapons. Sun Tzu calls for an uninterrupted attack while unequivocally opposing a protracted war: “There is no instance,” he says, “of a country having benefited from prolonged warfare.” Hence Israel’s Government must ignore the inanities of sheltered critics—of jaded intellectuals and politicians who preach “self-restraint” as if Hiroshima and Dresden never happened. The paramount concern of Israel’s political and military echelons is to minimize Jewish casualties. Horrible as it is, peace-loving Israel, confronted by a genocidal enemy, must kill for peace.</i> <a href="http://i-ari.org/essays-on-war-sun-tzu" rel="nofollow">Paul Eidelberg | Essays on War: Sun Tzu</a><br />Leohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09675076348134024844noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-42251651555946464662012-11-21T08:34:12.404-05:002012-11-21T08:34:12.404-05:00...contrary to Judaism and Christianity, Islamic t...<i>...contrary to Judaism and Christianity, Islamic theology is based not on reason but on force or power. This is why there is no place in Islam for freedom of speech ...Today, Muslim leaders want to criminalize as “blasphemy” any criticism of Islam in general and of its prophet Muhammad in particular. Their motive is easy to understand. Islam cannot stand the test of critical analysis, philosophical, theological, or historical ...it needs to be borne in mind that critical analysis of Islam or of Muhammad does not merely offend the sensibilities of Muslims. No, such criticism threatens the ruling status of Muslim leaders and the entire power structure of Islamic regimes. Since the issue as indicated is one of power it must be understood in theological terms. Involved here is nothing less than the God-issue. This is the issue that confronts us today as a result of the decay of Western Civilization so evident in the decline of Christianity in Europe and in the ascendancy of left-wing atheism and nihilism in the United States.</i> <a href="http://i-ari.org/why-islam-wants-to-suppress-freedom-of-speech" rel="nofollow">Paul Eidelberg | Why Islam Wants to Suppress Freedom of Speech</a>Leohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09675076348134024844noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-67302379696359046532012-11-21T06:18:05.758-05:002012-11-21T06:18:05.758-05:00Daniel, please remove my first comment with the mi...Daniel, please remove my first comment with the missing web link.Leohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09675076348134024844noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-51658844406741136052012-11-21T06:16:41.875-05:002012-11-21T06:16:41.875-05:00We live in truly fascinating times, when re-statin...We live in truly fascinating times, when re-stating the obvious and nodding in agreement pretty much became favorite pastime of many sane people. The best and brightest among them calmly and patiently educate and enlighten those willing to read that "water is wet", "electricity kills", "gravity pulls" and "rabid dogs bite". However, the situation as it is begs the question "are the decision makers really that naive, ignorant and alien to cause-effect reasoning and logic, or they just pretend to be"? Oslo and subsequent idiotic dances around the laws of nature were plain wrong, many of those responsible are still in power, for whatever reasons they keep following the beaten path, and that's the root of the problem.<br /><br /><i>The Jews come to the ball masked as Israelis, the Arabs come masked as Palestinians and everyone talks about a land that does not exist and never did: Palestine. Today, on the eve of Rosh Hashanah, the day on which the Jewish Nation declares the Kingship of the Creator over themselves and the entire world, I have chosen to come here to remove the masks.</i> <a href="http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/article.php?p=104628" rel="nofollow">Moshe Feiglin | The Speech I Would Have Made In The UN | Sep 28, 2011</a><br />Leohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09675076348134024844noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-16424827338758351622012-11-21T05:49:48.060-05:002012-11-21T05:49:48.060-05:00We live in truly fascinating times, when re-statin...We live in truly fascinating times, when re-stating the obvious and nodding in agreement pretty much became favorite pastime of many sane people. The best and brightest among them calmly and patiently educate and enlighten those willing to read that "water is wet", "electricity kills", "gravity pulls" and "rabid dogs bite". However, the situation as it is begs the question "are the decision makers really that naive, ignorant and alien to cause-effect reasoning and logic, or they just pretend to be"? Oslo and subsequent idiotic dances around the laws of nature were plain wrong, many of those responsible are still in power, for whatever reasons they keep following the beaten path, and that's the root of the problem.<br /><br /><i>The Jews come to the ball masked as Israelis, the Arabs come masked as Palestinians and everyone talks about a land that does not exist and never did: Palestine. Today, on the eve of Rosh Hashanah, the day on which the Jewish Nation declares the Kingship of the Creator over themselves and the entire world, I have chosen to come here to remove the masks.</i> <a href="" rel="nofollow">Moshe Feiglin | The Speech I Would Have Made In The UN | Sep 28, 2011</a>Leohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09675076348134024844noreply@blogger.com