tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post8168394202034835709..comments2024-03-29T08:36:39.917-04:00Comments on Daniel Greenfield / Sultan Knish Articles at DanielGreenfield.org : Israel's War of WordsDaniel Greenfieldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-38828891890672154062014-05-31T21:32:40.313-04:002014-05-31T21:32:40.313-04:00Without strong faith and Torah Israel will die on ...Without strong faith and Torah Israel will die on the vine...that G-d dispersed the Jews for failure to follow the commandments seems lost on many who make Aliyah..you go there to lead a secular life? Either follow the commandments or get out...to go there and defile the land with prostitutes or drugs, wring your hands over the religious, or other left wing causes is wrong...better that you find yourself in some distant landAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-45516079989923964622012-08-13T23:17:09.101-04:002012-08-13T23:17:09.101-04:00We need both heroes of Torah and Warriors of Hashe...We need both heroes of Torah and Warriors of HashemAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-2451986297027389332012-07-27T03:44:25.385-04:002012-07-27T03:44:25.385-04:00The left agitates against Haredi benefits, but it ...The left agitates against Haredi benefits, but it set up a system where the Haredim would do nothing but vote in exchange for benefits, in the same way that it set up a similar system for the Arab sector"<br /><br />Yes, that's what Haredim have said to me in the past when I personally complained to them. And now that we *are* trying to change the system, they wail and wring their hands and complain that they are being treated like "Jewish scapegoats" and that we want to kill them all.<br /><br />Personally, I am a religious Zionist and my sons and daughters and husband have served and continue to serve in the IDF, including years and years of reserve duty, which invariably fall at times that constitute serious personal and financial hardship for us.<br /><br />Probably it is naive of me to expect more from my Jewish brethren than from Israeli Arabs. The Haredim like to talk about how important they are, how virtuous they are, and how the entire world exsists for their benefit, but they only wish to fulfill the "responsibilities" they choose in the way that they prefer.<br /><br />Damned if I can figure out why I resent them; I must be some kind of antisemite. <br /><br />The fact is that many of us, Right, left, and center are tired, very tired of dragging the haredim along, supporting their self-chosen lifestyle of poverty on the government dole, of being chastized and insulted and imposed upon by their arrogant attitudes. <br /><br />Yes, there are other problems in Israel, but there are reasons, many of them valid, why this one in particular rubs so many of us the wrong way.Manya Shochetnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-54698162428456631332012-07-25T18:41:51.159-04:002012-07-25T18:41:51.159-04:00For anyone who reads Ivrit and is not in Israel, t...For anyone who reads Ivrit and is not in Israel, this is the Feiglin article which expands on the Muslim benefits issue.<br /><br />http://he.manhigut.org/society-and-state/4406-2012-07-18-14-55-39<br /><br />His articles usually also appear in English, but this one wasn't translated for some reasonDaniel Greenfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-3989345619616008642012-07-25T18:38:51.307-04:002012-07-25T18:38:51.307-04:00Unfortunately the quality of available information...Unfortunately the quality of available information for our side ranges from uneven to poor.Daniel Greenfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-52260113568960128402012-07-25T18:03:01.594-04:002012-07-25T18:03:01.594-04:00"...And let's not forget the Muslim secto...<b>"...And let's not forget the Muslim sector. Israeli Arabs form 20 percent of the country, but consume 52 percent of its social benefits...</b><br /><br />And this should be repeated and broadcast again and again and again. Even here in Australia we have those JewHaters who attack shops like Max Brenner shouting "Israel = Apartheit state", and worse accusations. And this Goebbels-style propaganda is gaining the upper hand. Even I am surprised at that fact that Sultan Knisch publishes up there - and I, as a friend, am at least a little bit "informed" about Israel.Ritahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01905667628853229999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-2858013220453715612012-07-25T12:11:41.874-04:002012-07-25T12:11:41.874-04:00Thanks Knish. It is a very insighful article, touc...Thanks Knish. It is a very insighful article, touching on the real issues Israel is facing. I find most of the comments here to be a defensive reactions actually making your point.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-8866713082037811092012-07-24T17:01:00.590-04:002012-07-24T17:01:00.590-04:00Great analysis as usual. It will not help, the sec...Great analysis as usual. It will not help, the seculars are so blind with hatred, just like the 1st Anon.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-9764956941807699192012-07-24T11:32:23.005-04:002012-07-24T11:32:23.005-04:00not to mention the demographics boost of having la...not to mention the demographics boost of having large families, which is a practical demographic defense.Daniel Greenfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-31451163925330708422012-07-24T11:17:15.106-04:002012-07-24T11:17:15.106-04:00Even the Haredim that are not serving they are do...Even the Haredim that are not serving they are doing a service to Israel , they pray for Israel and the soldiers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-77270928316773121812012-07-24T10:17:11.614-04:002012-07-24T10:17:11.614-04:00And to paraphrase that famous abolitionist and pro...And to paraphrase that famous abolitionist and proto-liberal Thaddeus Stevens, "you don't expect to ever have to take advantage of our prisons and yet you pay for them all the same...". Which is really what this is about. Not everyone 'contributes' to society similarly and paying for things one may never take advantage of or even want to is one of those carrying costs of living in a society.Empress Trudyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06073538968722986065noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-66021621305783804042012-07-24T09:49:19.988-04:002012-07-24T09:49:19.988-04:00More than half the country sucks off the public te...More than half the country sucks off the public teat and complains that the other half has it better. Most of those shedding blood these days are civilians who live in areas where there are a lot of Muslims.<br /><br />It doesn't matter whether it is or isn't against halacha, they think that it's against which turns into a religious matter for them, which means they're going to treat the kind of mass induction some are playing with as martyrdom, with all the usual consequences.Daniel Greenfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-47922391366146371542012-07-24T08:36:46.436-04:002012-07-24T08:36:46.436-04:00Sorry Mr. Knish but the Orthodox have been sucking...Sorry Mr. Knish but the Orthodox have been sucking on the public teat in Israel and bullying the public for too long. They must shed their blood like every other Jewish citizen (even the Druse are in the military). When Ben-Gurion first gave them an exemption they were only a couple of hundred, now they are tens of thousand - enough to form several divisions. It is not against Halacha to kill the enemies of the Jews and the Haredim can pull the trigger just as well as the secular Israeli Jews.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-62224716450221888542012-07-24T06:53:01.503-04:002012-07-24T06:53:01.503-04:00True, Lemon:(
Israel really does need to say no t...True, Lemon:(<br /><br />Israel really does need to say no to international pressure that could care less about the country's survival.Keliatahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11413494251297514882noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-84494904022111068582012-07-23T23:59:34.812-04:002012-07-23T23:59:34.812-04:00Excellent. You really touched the heart of it here...Excellent. You really touched the heart of it here.<br /><br />Also, placing the plight of the stranger above that of one's own brethren is a problem that Israel has in common with Europe and America right now.Chana @ Lemon Lime Moonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11656854855385193867noreply@blogger.com