tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post7418528049234113022..comments2024-03-28T03:24:11.539-04:00Comments on Daniel Greenfield / Sultan Knish Articles at DanielGreenfield.org : Panic NationDaniel Greenfieldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-66670948903628969452011-09-01T17:21:51.149-04:002011-09-01T17:21:51.149-04:00also cutting power takes out water in many buildin...also cutting power takes out water in many buildings, which leaves people without drinking water or working toilets unless they prepped beforehand<br /><br />I think it was partly a drill, a lot of agencies trying to show how much they had learnedDaniel Greenfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-79916862626174157632011-09-01T15:31:32.153-04:002011-09-01T15:31:32.153-04:00Ex--I wondered about that myself. Why all the pani...Ex--I wondered about that myself. Why all the panic over a category 2hurricaine?<br /><br />Though I undersood the logic behind cutting off power. As the mayor said, electricity and salt water don't go together well. <br /><br />But I think I would have been upset at not being able to use an elevator or anything. I'd feel trapped.<br /><br />It's one thing when people decide on their own to just stay home and ride out the storm. <br /><br />I'm not sure why so many politicians would put people into a panic.<br /><br />In a couple of interviews online authorities in NYC mentioned that the storm preparedness reflected just how well the city would respond to a large scale terrorist attack.<br /><br />I can't help but wonder if what the city does was really a drill.Keli Atahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05089132216830000713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-30523968736640753242011-08-31T20:58:37.040-04:002011-08-31T20:58:37.040-04:00Another great post. As a fellow New Yorker, I also...Another great post. As a fellow New Yorker, I also wondered why there was this atmosphere of panic created when it was known one day ahead that Irene would only be a tropical storm by the time it would hit New York City. My take on the grandstanding and apparent over-reaction was that the mayor and his minions were trying to compensate over their failure to clear the snow during the past Winter. I don't know if I buy this idea that our political class is consciously using the media to generate lots of fear and hype as part of a scheme to make us thoughtless lemmings. On the other hand, the nanny state rules and regulations do treat us as thoughtless and helpless, and certainly the media expects this to characterize the average Joe on the street. Maybe this is more of along the lines of an subconscious where the politicians want to view us as thoughtless cattle and pass laws appropriate for such, and the elite journolistas continue to support the same narative. In their world, it is a wish fulfilling prophecy. In any case, great and very insightful post.Ex-Dissidenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03837109472357860889noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-19915569840810627302011-08-31T10:42:52.544-04:002011-08-31T10:42:52.544-04:00I know who he is, didn't notice the signatureI know who he is, didn't notice the signatureDaniel Greenfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-8032231554801085882011-08-31T09:19:58.222-04:002011-08-31T09:19:58.222-04:00Choosing a cartoon by Latuff, however relevant, is...Choosing a cartoon by Latuff, however relevant, is not appropriate considering the majority of his political cartoons are blatantly anti-semitic <br /><br />http://blog.thecst.org.uk/?p=2850peacemakerhttp://twitter.com/peacemaker36noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-10506182574716141882011-08-31T08:30:59.576-04:002011-08-31T08:30:59.576-04:00Another very perceptive gem of an article, Daniel ...Another very perceptive gem of an article, Daniel - keep 'em coming! I especially enjoyed this phrase: <i>Panic bridges the values gap between the media and the public.</i><br />Although I don't think it's only "Panic Nation," the media - worldwide - seems to work in this way.<br />Lemon, I don't believe that "none" was being facetious or a jerk. He/she was just expressing the feeling of "much ado about nothing" that the MEDIA [after all, this was the subject of Sultan's post] was blowing up into a...storm. In contrast to the 1800+ deaths of Katrina, and $100+ billion of damage, the effects of Irene on the NYC were amusing, especially in light of the media panic attack. NO ONE belittles the fact that Irene did indeed leave behind 50+ dead, and some $10 billion in damage. That indeed is tragic!<br />And finally, I have to agree with the last Anonymous comment - the threat of radical Islam, and nuclear Iran, worldwide, is probably the most serious problem we face today, yet the media constantly squashes it.<br /><br />--Yitz from JerusalemAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-8565516295430183902011-08-31T00:45:02.028-04:002011-08-31T00:45:02.028-04:00The sad thing, the dangerous thing, is that the me...The sad thing, the dangerous thing, is that the media does not inform the public about what it, in fact, truly dangerous and lapping at our shores. The public is distracted by a lot of pointless garbage without the benefit of being informed about that which may truly kill them. Islam is at war with the west. Iran is on the verge of acquiring nuclear weapons. THAT is not about panic. It is about the truth. And the truth of the matter is we are in grave danger.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-7873686534770789762011-08-30T23:14:14.188-04:002011-08-30T23:14:14.188-04:00Right Daniel, it does benefit reason.
Lemon--I di...Right Daniel, it does benefit reason.<br /><br />Lemon--I ditto what 2sloe wrote:)Keliatahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11413494251297514882noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-58269717236417080702011-08-30T15:30:21.189-04:002011-08-30T15:30:21.189-04:00Ammendment:
46 dead and counting.Ammendment:<br />46 dead and counting.Chana @ Lemon Lime Moonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11656854855385193867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-55379404289642952442011-08-30T15:05:55.236-04:002011-08-30T15:05:55.236-04:00Lemon, I love you.Lemon, I love you.2sloehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07687684487054065583noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-30802898054495322862011-08-30T14:40:53.867-04:002011-08-30T14:40:53.867-04:00It benefits reasonIt benefits reasonDaniel Greenfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-16221445456044337142011-08-30T14:36:22.309-04:002011-08-30T14:36:22.309-04:00I find your article cynical! It benefits no one.I find your article cynical! It benefits no one.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-75423001062991031842011-08-30T12:46:24.280-04:002011-08-30T12:46:24.280-04:00People should just be aware of what type of natura...People should just be aware of what type of natural disasters their their region of the country is most prone to.<br /><br />It would make no sense for me to prepare for hurricaine, mudslide, forest fires or tornado.<br /><br />Severe thunderstorms and blizzards? Absolutely. After the Great Blizzard of '77 (White Death) we learned--and learned a lot. We know what to do now.<br /><br />This might be unique to Buffalo but most of know that if the clouds are a weird greenish color and especially a snowstorm associated with thunder and lightning the snowstorm is going to be bad.<br /><br />The eerie green sky and thunder and lightning during the winter is something you never forget.<br /><br />You can't afford to panic in natural disaster.Keliatahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11413494251297514882noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-55800095000504735282011-08-30T12:16:32.523-04:002011-08-30T12:16:32.523-04:00"The media is a vertical top down messaging a...<i>"The media is a vertical top down messaging apparatus and its vertical dominance is almost unchallenged. The greatest threat to it comes from horizontal messaging, peer to peer, and community to community. The internet has made horizontal communications much easier and more competitive which has badly rocked the media's boat. And it has compensated for it with more panic. And when the media panics, everyone else is supposed to panic."</i><br /><br />Notice also how we are obliged to discount the opinions shared with us on the internet. But of course part of the fun of having an opinion on the internet is discounting the opinions of others. And also, of course, the "media" is terrified of offering the same opportunity for the internet to judge its own opinions. Check any major "media" outlet on the internet and try to find a comments section or a forum of some kind. Most people give up looking, I know I did. I used to write letters to the editor. I wouldn't waste my time like that any more.<br /><br /><i>"The failure to act immediately is branded as irresponsible. Debate becomes obstruction. Asking questions is a felony. Responsible leaders are told, do things immediately. They don't negotiate or debate. They just leap in. Or else everything is lost."</i><br /><br />And its not just panic, its any reaction. They don't just want you to panic, they just want your attention and they'll get it any way they can. Loud noises, for example. Anything that keeps you awake when you need to relax. It's not just the media, its the ambience of the street. Reaction to panic is good, but they're not going to get that if they don't have your attention and they don't want to see you paying attention to anything else if they haven't got it.<br /><br /><i>"The right to be left alone is indeed the beginning of all freedom"<br /><br />William O. Douglas</i>Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13265154565691102783noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-41747308957928455912011-08-30T09:56:18.247-04:002011-08-30T09:56:18.247-04:00How nice for you "None" as you "wat...How nice for you "None" as you "watched with amusement" as 9 people died and some of us are still bailing out. Some will be hard pressed to recoup their losses.<br />Must be nice to sit on your throne and mock others. How fine for you and other like you to sit back and judge others. <br />Big hero.<br />Jerk.Chana @ Lemon Lime Moonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11656854855385193867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-91925776765556142862011-08-30T08:08:27.240-04:002011-08-30T08:08:27.240-04:00But mostly, we watched the dramatcis of how the De...<i><br />But mostly, we watched the dramatcis of how the Democrat city of new York was in impending perril and was going to be wiped off of the map.<br /></i><br /><br />This is a bit too much. NY may be full of fools who vote Dem and are destroying the country, but even they are people, and besides there must be millions of good decent people there as well (in particular my daughter, son-in-law, son and grandchildren). Let's remain calm and not let our feelings make us say or write things that we could easily regret forever.fsynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-48695577820437697422011-08-30T07:33:08.482-04:002011-08-30T07:33:08.482-04:00Love the blog. I am addicted to it.
I am a citiz...Love the blog. I am addicted to it.<br /><br />I am a citizen of Louisiana. Way down South. We all watched with amusement all the news of the irene event.<br />We survived Hurricane Katrina. We had it a thousand times worse. We watched the nes work this event up into a lather. But mostly, we watched the dramatcis of how the Democrat city of new York was in impending perril and was going to be wiped off of the map. The projections seemed to model a cheap ScyFy made movie with the model showing huge waves and walls of water wiping out potential Obammy voters off of the voting map. <br /><br /> Oh what a tragedy. <br /><br />We drank.<br /><br /> We ate. <br /><br /> Mostly we just laughed.<br /><br /><br /> In the end. it worked out.<br /><br /> Now, the president has to figure how this hurricane will make him look good. George Bush had help here in a few days.Southern Louisiana Horticulturisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04754581775047087394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-13310257438263952662011-08-30T05:54:40.580-04:002011-08-30T05:54:40.580-04:00Cuomo declaring a state of emergency in New York (...Cuomo declaring a state of emergency in New York (AOL News didn't specify if it was for the entire state or just NYC) was certainly alarming. Other reports indicated that NYC, including Wall Street could be "under water."<br /><br />Not minor flash flooding but 13-foot waves.Keliatahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11413494251297514882noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-64260305290205107422011-08-30T05:48:30.413-04:002011-08-30T05:48:30.413-04:00You meant "The internet has made horizontal c...You meant "The internet has made horizontal communications much easier "fsynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-399986406338849612011-08-30T04:17:04.425-04:002011-08-30T04:17:04.425-04:00The law of large numbers makes the system inert to...The law of large numbers makes the system inert to catastrophe. It might be terrible for the individuals that suffers from whatever plight visited upon them but humanity shall prevail. Even with the much smaller people numbers of the middle-ages humanity survived the black death which perished half the population of Europe. If a similar catastrophe would hit the planet now 3.5 billion humans would survive, a larger number than inhabited the earth in 1900. So to quote Mad magazine "What me worry?"mindRiderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12160934421830568737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-56918901649689260282011-08-30T02:59:01.398-04:002011-08-30T02:59:01.398-04:00You are wrong. New York is at extremely great ris...You are wrong. New York is at extremely great risk for devastating hurricane damage. Fortunately such monster storms are infrequent. You should be thankful and thank whatever gods you believe in that this time your home was spared.<br /><br />Panic is created when people are not prepared for what tribulations life throws their way. Period.<br /><br />New York is in a hurricane path. One of these days it will be hit. Residents should prepare accordingly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-54791382879899502542011-08-30T02:35:40.004-04:002011-08-30T02:35:40.004-04:00I loved the manufactured swine flu crisis. It neve...I loved the manufactured swine flu crisis. It never really made it to Israel, except on the wings of television, which tried really hard to get everyone to get a vaccine.<br /><br />The more they pushed it, without a shred of evidence, the clearer it became that the 'terrible plague' existed mostly on the airwaves, and if one would just hit the 'off' button, then all shall be well again.HermitLionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01955642756387705257noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-67511993220504729012011-08-30T02:00:30.241-04:002011-08-30T02:00:30.241-04:00Out of the park...again!Out of the park...again!Maryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08615232797755981898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-19629786247013156392011-08-30T01:55:01.592-04:002011-08-30T01:55:01.592-04:00The media can be a force for great good, and occas...The media can be a force for great good, and occasionally I see it being used this way. Subtly. And far too infrequently. For some unique insights on media, I recommend the reading of "Propaganda", by Jacques Ellul.Larry Talbotnoreply@blogger.com