tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post6871545197230539898..comments2024-03-18T19:14:18.804-04:00Comments on Daniel Greenfield / Sultan Knish Articles at DanielGreenfield.org : Fear of a Fat NationDaniel Greenfieldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-90842391132602811922011-09-20T23:58:15.992-04:002011-09-20T23:58:15.992-04:00Brilliant as usual Sultan!
My favorite line...&qu...Brilliant as usual Sultan!<br /><br />My favorite line..."And for the left such a system is dangerously complacent and prosperous, so much so it might not need them to save it from itself." Bravo!<br /><br />I doubt anyone would argue that being fat is not good for our health, but it is none of government's business what we eat. I know that I've never lost control of my car driving under the influence of a coffee and donut!<br /><br />As far as diabetes, I learned a lot while low carb dieting over the years. There is barely an item that isn't injected with corn syrup in some form. I used to grab Tyson chicken breasts, believing it was a good protein choice, but down in the teeny tiny print, corn syrup is listed as an ingredient. That's what cattle are fed, to get fattened up before going to market. What's up with that?!<br /><br />The irony isn't just that Barry is a coke head, his "baby" Michelle's, "got back"! Great examples those two!Suehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12430407197670269085noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-9306584770496489612010-11-04T10:07:27.061-04:002010-11-04T10:07:27.061-04:00Hi Sultan,
you've laid out very well the cont...Hi Sultan,<br /><br />you've laid out very well the control obsession of the liberals in US (and elsewhere!), but there are a coupoe of other issues involved in the issue of fat.<br /><br />People are "free" to eat fatty food, transfat -laden food, etc. however, that's one thing when they really know what is in their food.<br /><br />But if they think they are eating healthy when buying a meal at a restaurant or buying a meal in a box, and not knowing/realising that the food may have been deep fried three times, or contains four different types of sugar with a mix of binders, soy filler, milk proteins etc, that is another issue altogether.<br /><br />These issues are also spoken of with great passion by body builders who do not appreciate the over reliance on fat laden "artificial" food, too many carbs (white rice, noodles etc) that many Caucasian types do not tolerate well, etc. It can be and is addictive to meny carb-intolerant types.<br /><br />Apologies for the length of this post, but some people really do not realise what they are eating.<br />I'm pretty fat (for various reasons) but if I want to have a food binge i know what to eat. If i want to eat healthy, I am very aware of what to eat.<br /><br />The fact is that many companies claim food is healthy when it isn't, or has some weird extra ingredients that they should not have, in order to tempt people to buy that product again and again. That's why so much American and other packaged foods contain so much sugar.<br /><br />Personally, i don't approve of personal interference. Learning about food and proper nutrition through ads, lessons, cooking shows, great restaurants and recipes is the way to go.<br />And no one will be perfect anyway.<br /><br />But obesity - the lethal kind where you need a truck to leave the bedroom - is not good for anyone.<br /><br />I am not at all disagreeing with your thesis. The types you describe look for any opportunity to control other people, but there are some people who genuinely want to help people keep away from the foods that harm. This is no way justifies any campaign of harassment, penalties, fat taxes or sin taxes etc.<br />i just want you to be aware that the issues surrounding obesity add up to more than just a busybody government, and while you make excellent points about the politics and tactics of this Obama govt, there are health issues that people need to be aware of, and fast food/manufacturing practices that people need to know to care for themselves better.TBSnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-44621744643304684602009-08-22T21:10:43.159-04:002009-08-22T21:10:43.159-04:00thank you denathank you denaDaniel Greenfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-77172355496057308852009-08-22T16:00:11.854-04:002009-08-22T16:00:11.854-04:00Yochana--My granddaughter, age 19, has juvenile di...Yochana--My granddaughter, age 19, has juvenile diabetes and is definately not obese. Everyone seems to think only the obese can be diabetic--woefully wrong. <br /><br />I've been enjoying your articles for some time now, Sultan Knish, and have learned a lot from you. Thanks.Denanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-51724570090217745372009-08-19T20:36:53.701-04:002009-08-19T20:36:53.701-04:00Great article. I have thought about this issue alo...Great article. I have thought about this issue alot in that I work in the Chgo Pub School system-bottom line-weight/body size is influenced by peers, NOT EDUCATION!!<br /><br />siddahAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-5527683075465020892009-08-18T22:20:50.283-04:002009-08-18T22:20:50.283-04:00Thank you No Apology, I try to boil down the issue...Thank you No Apology, I try to boil down the issues to their core elements and then lay them out in ways that people may not have thought ofDaniel Greenfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-78945953703885954882009-08-18T22:08:26.180-04:002009-08-18T22:08:26.180-04:00ROFL YO!!!ROFL YO!!!Keli Atahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05089132216830000713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-55591499374721537532009-08-18T21:00:07.800-04:002009-08-18T21:00:07.800-04:00SK - I admire the way you study and distill the po...SK - I admire the way you study and distill the political realities in your mind, before you write. It gives your analysis, spoken in a sure, quiet way - that much more power.No Apologyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04572493844157464978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-12819942500903376202009-08-18T16:05:29.567-04:002009-08-18T16:05:29.567-04:00Keli - hey! I love tofu! ; ) Actually, I do. I...Keli - hey! I love tofu! ; ) Actually, I do. It's tasty when done just right. : )<br /><br />As for fatsos! Being in a family of repulsively obese people, two of which weigh themselves on the local truck scales - I have mixed feelings. <br /><br />One, obesity is freaking damaging to the health. The extreme short list - they whine about back and leg pain - all of which would be gone if they lost weight. <br /><br />Two, when I worked at SSD, every time I typed up someone applying for disability due to diabetes, I knew immediately they were obese. I was right 100% of the time. <br /><br />Three, two of my mammoth cousins had surgery. One was afraid of diabetes, which ran in her family and the other - her weight had damaged her health to the point it was surgery or die.<br /><br />Reality, taxpayers have to foot the bill for those who are obese and eventually end up on disability because of it. At that point, it makes one want something to be done, but how? who knows, outside of shooting them and sending their beef to people starving in Ethiopia. just kidding.Yochanahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02835163236714972489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-9948136436815590602009-08-18T14:59:14.197-04:002009-08-18T14:59:14.197-04:00Louise is right. Behind all the fancy rhetoric lib...Louise is right. Behind all the fancy rhetoric liberals are just trying to control the middle and working classes.<br /><br />And I doubt many Americans will sit down to a Thanksgiving dinner with a tofu shaped turkey, lick their chops and say MMMMM! TOFU!Keli Atahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05089132216830000713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-41484425293988653792009-08-18T13:04:09.609-04:002009-08-18T13:04:09.609-04:00Anonymous 2
Thank you I try to have some range fo...Anonymous 2<br /><br />Thank you I try to have some range for the articles.Daniel Greenfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-56517823105528290112009-08-18T13:03:51.266-04:002009-08-18T13:03:51.266-04:00Anonymous 1
I don't know where you live, but ...Anonymous 1<br /><br />I don't know where you live, but I've made it a point to get good fresh fruit. Supermarkets are a worse choice than local grocery stores in that regard.Daniel Greenfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-53329501178353202322009-08-18T13:03:14.055-04:002009-08-18T13:03:14.055-04:00Thank you Louise. liberals would like to treat peo...Thank you Louise. liberals would like to treat people as incompetent and punish them for being comfortableDaniel Greenfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-31052986389784575482009-08-18T13:00:29.648-04:002009-08-18T13:00:29.648-04:00I discovered your commentary on Canada Free Press ...I discovered your commentary on Canada Free Press and came to your site. I liked your "obesity: article a lot. My granddaughter spent seven weeks here and we ate about 15 half gallons of ice cream. Yes, I admit I gained about seven pounds. However, since she has left I've given up ice cream for awhile.<br /><br />Your article makes a lot of sense as we are definitely part of the Middle Class, and, yes, we are comfortable. However, we are not stupid because we definitely know what the liberals are trying to do. That's why we never vote for one regardless of the fancy rhetoric!<br /><br />I've bookmarked your site and definitely be looking out for future reads.Louise Whttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03844509343077052288noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-87481357792931883332009-08-18T12:30:50.820-04:002009-08-18T12:30:50.820-04:00Anonymous makes a lot of good points about the qua...Anonymous makes a lot of good points about the quality of food these days.<br /><br />The earth isn't allowed to lay fallow so it is mineral depleted. And when western foods and cooking styles are introduced into other countries they tend to experience a declain in health.<br /><br />But I agree with Sultan. Much of the war on obesity seems to be coming from liberals who have an aversion to prosperity bordering on obssesion, and a desire to control people.Keli Atahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05089132216830000713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-81394161034392717762009-08-18T12:17:29.085-04:002009-08-18T12:17:29.085-04:00It's all control and power with the hypocrites...It's all control and power with the hypocrites. They always know better what other people need, with other people's money. Wonderful analysis, I'm surprised every day by your versatility.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-75820455318219714072009-08-18T03:14:27.077-04:002009-08-18T03:14:27.077-04:00My old Italian aunts would beg to differ with Obam...My old Italian aunts would beg to differ with Obama and his sin taxes. A chubby baby was always viewed as a healthy baby worthy of cheek pinching.<br /><br />Things are getting crazy with city governments trying to ban restaurants from using trans fats and discussions about assessing a child's weight on his or her report card.<br /><br />Obama should get taxed on every carton of cigarettes he buys. Then if he quits and gains weight, charge him again--a fat tax. ha!Keli Atahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05089132216830000713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-49527274126860881632009-08-18T02:12:11.413-04:002009-08-18T02:12:11.413-04:00I have to tell you that modern Western countries h...I have to tell you that modern Western countries have awful food. I'm from a nice, backwards, Third-World country with numerous problems associated with an undemocratic tyrannical political structure, Islamic BS, & incredible economic inequality - but our food is fantastic. I haven't had a good meal since I left. Western food is absolutely awful - tasteless crap, unhealthy, & fattening. Fruit has become practically inedible, never ripe with a distinctive taste which is why Westerners eat sweets & potatoe chips instead, at least sugar & fried crap has some taste. <br />And we didn't live on tofu & the other nasty food fads popular among food-crazies either.<br />You'll excuse me, this is a pet peeve of mine & I can't pass up the occasion to comment.<br />I understand the causes of this decline in the quality of food - the necessity of modern methods & techniques & the logistics of distribution plus an excess of zeal re: hygiene inevitably lead to this result. But you modern Westerners just don't know what you're missing.<br />Otherwise, I pretty much agree with your analysis.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-8663080167624565332009-08-18T01:05:55.262-04:002009-08-18T01:05:55.262-04:00absolute power through absolute self-doubtabsolute power through absolute self-doubtDaniel Greenfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-17057211645211681972009-08-18T01:04:43.405-04:002009-08-18T01:04:43.405-04:00It seems the goverment wishes to control everythin...It seems the goverment wishes to control everything about people so that they can have absolute dominance over everyone and their money.Chana @ Lemon Lime Moonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11656854855385193867noreply@blogger.com