tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post624147010079845979..comments2024-03-29T00:24:13.128-04:00Comments on Daniel Greenfield / Sultan Knish Articles at DanielGreenfield.org : The One True Anti-RomneyDaniel Greenfieldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-77297588764230664312012-01-08T09:56:49.623-05:002012-01-08T09:56:49.623-05:00I agree with the major thrust of Greenfield's ...I agree with the major thrust of Greenfield's article - that we're stuck with a bunch of 1989 Chevys - but I don't think that National Review represents the "establishment" or that Establishment Republicans want Romney and so destroyed Gingrich. First, however many negative commentaries on NR and negative ads run by Romney-affiliated (and Ron Paul-affiliated) PAC's there may have been, most of them were based on the actual facts of Gingrich's record and personality. That is precisely why they were so effective in reminding Republicans of things they had forgotten about Gingrich, and once that happened, his numbers took a nose-dive.<br /><br />I feel a little sorry for Newt - you could see he was genuinely hurt by the attacks, and he isn't a bad man. But he also isn't the right man to lead the Republican Party, and his feelings are less important than removing the most anti-American president in history from office in 2012. Newt's response to his drubbing in Iowa - setting out to destroy Romney by offering to take on Santorum as a junior partner(!) even though it won't help him (Gingrich) win the nomination - is further proof of his vanity and unsuitability. It brings to mind his shutting down of the government because he had to take a back seat on Air Force 1.<br /><br />I think we need to re-examine who or what the Republican "Establishment" really is. To me, it consists of those inside-the-beltway politicos who would rather join the Welfare State than fight it, who would rather just get along with the Democrats rather than seriously oppose them. These people are not conservatives in any sense of the word, and given a choice, would probably much rather have a progressive or big-government Republican than Romney, whom they probably think is too conservative! Remember, these are the same people who favored McCain over Romney four years ago, and Romney hasn't moved to the Left since then.NAHALKIDESnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-49107730316337440062012-01-07T18:29:20.552-05:002012-01-07T18:29:20.552-05:00I did say legitimate candidates. Which naturally e...I did say legitimate candidates. Which naturally excludes Paul.Daniel Greenfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-67338373390868108822012-01-07T01:30:30.803-05:002012-01-07T01:30:30.803-05:00This process is a nightmare. We are slicing and di...This process is a nightmare. We are slicing and dicing our own candidates. The liberals must be sitting back and just loving the show. As we continue to try (impossible) to turn the field of candidates into a perfect line up, we complain, bash them, pick every issue apart ad nauseum, hone in on one or two specific issues while losing a sense of the big picture, and do everything and anything possible to make sure that we will hate whoever our nominee is. It's like we've all become mentally ill. Stop it already! Work hard for your candidate of choice. Then work hard for our nominee (presuming it's not Paul) and make sure the first and foremost number one goal is achieved: Defeat Obama in November.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-75803609689408166602012-01-07T00:58:46.930-05:002012-01-07T00:58:46.930-05:00I must say I had to laugh when, after reading just...I must say I had to laugh when, after reading just two of your articles, I can see such blatant hypocracy. Didn't you just do to Ron Paul what you are complaining about here?<br /><br />And by the way, the standard by which to know how much government is too much is the Constitution and there is only one candidate even purporting that he intends to abide by it. ;)<br /><br />Thanks for the interesting reading!dorothynoonan9https://www.blogger.com/profile/04872474168429260643noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-62699244213336381342012-01-06T17:01:03.510-05:002012-01-06T17:01:03.510-05:00We both want the samething Lev:)We both want the samething Lev:)Keli Atahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05089132216830000713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-21395810989871356672012-01-06T12:59:51.788-05:002012-01-06T12:59:51.788-05:00First of all I am not against Santorum. I believe ...First of all I am not against Santorum. I believe both (Gingrich and Santorun) are sincere in their support of Israel. The reason, why I believe them is simple: one can say:"I support Israel",- and wink an eye, but he cannot say:"Palestinians are invented people", and hope to convince the other side that this is just to be elected. It is an unforgivable sin. I want only to note that Gingrich sounds more knowledgeable, more specific and more aggressive.Lev Tannenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16592955627493752238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-33908460921189145952012-01-06T11:36:43.555-05:002012-01-06T11:36:43.555-05:00Both Gingrich and Santorum have been the strongest...Both Gingrich and Santorum have been the strongest on Israel and Islam. Not counting Bachmann who dropped out.Daniel Greenfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-32849041940278446772012-01-06T11:18:58.187-05:002012-01-06T11:18:58.187-05:00Lev, I understand what you're saying about Gi...Lev, I understand what you're saying about Gingrich and Israel. That said, it is a sad reality that some Republicans are outspoken in their support of Israel simply because it that it plays well among many evangelicals:(<br /><br />It would be wonderful to have a president that is truly supportive of Israel but I believe in some cases it is merely a political ploy, a sad joke at the expense of Israelis who truly believe these candidates. Not to generalize but I've read enough on pro-Israel blogs and news sites to come to this realization.<br /><br />It's impossible to know who really supports Israel and those who pretend to for various reasons.<br /><br />That said, I do hope Gingrich is sincere in what he says about Irael. I really do.Keliatahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11413494251297514882noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-48699157592897183602012-01-06T10:49:50.442-05:002012-01-06T10:49:50.442-05:00Unless another candidate comes out of the shadows ...Unless another candidate comes out of the shadows I will be supporing Rick Santorum. I've never cared for Romney. The clincher for me was when Romney sang bits of America the Beautiful and Santorum talked about how his father worked in a coal mine.<br /><br />Sure it's shallow and dodges the issues over which candidate stands on the issues facing our country, but Santorum's comments were more sincere than Romney's.<br /><br />Gingrich IMO is a serial adulterer to quote a pundit I saw on TV. I've always held to the belief that if a candidate can't be loyal to his family he is less likely to be loyal to his country. A myth probably but I know many people who think along those lines.<br /><br />Thank you for this article. The majority of blogs, mainstream and even alternative media outlets are too confusing to understand and make an informed decision, which I am really trying to do this time around.Keliatahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11413494251297514882noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-65824208431674768152012-01-06T10:49:14.386-05:002012-01-06T10:49:14.386-05:00Daniel. It is hard to say better. It is a huge dif...Daniel. It is hard to say better. It is a huge difference between proper vetting a candidate and throwing dirt at him. It is terrible that Republicans resorted to throwing dirt. The net result will be all are dirty and Obama is the president. <br />My humble opinion is that sinking an opposite candidate in dirt is a dirty trick that should be widely rejected as immoral. Instead it is used and used successfully. <br />On the other wave, may I ask you what is wrong with Gingrich? Why people supporting Israel like your-self does not rally behind Gingrich in drones? All candidates except for Ron Paul support Israel, but only Gingrich speaks specifically about the danger of Islamic fundamentalism. Only Gingrich have said that Palestinians are invented people and only Gingrich have said that one of his first actions after he will be sworn in the presidency will be moving the US embassy to Jerusalem. Does not that means that he deserves a special support? Or I do not know something?Lev Tannenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16592955627493752238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-86026990385920761682012-01-05T22:50:25.120-05:002012-01-05T22:50:25.120-05:00I realy think that Daniel is correct for laying do...I realy think that Daniel is correct for laying down what needs to be seen and read. If not? Where are you going to be? In the line at the polls come November saying, "Hmmmmmm....which one, which one?" From the get go this election holds incredible weight and it jumps to quickly to be let loose out of the stalls to flop in the faces of the American people. Americans need to know all that is out there with the candidates- no sugar coating allowed. Just because we want Obama out doesn't mean the choice will be easy to elect his replacement.Leahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00338022892863788418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-41851090544697489412012-01-05T22:36:09.285-05:002012-01-05T22:36:09.285-05:00@Marylou
And lo and behold he was just reading lin...@Marylou<br />And lo and behold he was just reading lines.John Diorionoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-14597081312139227482012-01-05T19:54:29.720-05:002012-01-05T19:54:29.720-05:00Re: Edward Cline's first comment that none of ...Re: Edward Cline's first comment that none of the candidates will condemn Islam--you are wrong, at least about Rick Santorum ==><br /><br />Rick Santorum: Sharia 'is evil'<br />http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0311/51166.html#ixzz1icjbVmrBlgstarrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02752386918407342437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-36347967719538022082012-01-05T17:17:15.038-05:002012-01-05T17:17:15.038-05:00I freely admit my ignorance of politics but have r...I freely admit my ignorance of politics but have recognized it is the way to fight peacably against things I feel strongly about. I've seen Newt in a couple Q & A sessions and he is the only candidate that gives smart, factual answers instead of politi-speak. Is there some dirt on him that I'm unaware of?Davidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-60507939230955295162012-01-05T16:37:52.817-05:002012-01-05T16:37:52.817-05:00Yael is correct in her assessment of Daniels artic...Yael is correct in her assessment of Daniels article. <br /><br />Santorum is well known here in Penna for his fraudulent behavior and deals. His religious nutcakery is also well known.Gilnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-10123793403740940942012-01-05T16:32:19.120-05:002012-01-05T16:32:19.120-05:00I remember when Reagan first ran for president, co...I remember when Reagan first ran for president, conservative Republicans were wringing their hands moaning, “I don’t know – he’s read lines for the cameras for so many years, how do we know he’s not just reading lines for us?” A reasonable fear, but not one that ever materialized. No candidate comes with an insurance policy or a money-back guarantee. I think we should be grateful that there is a Rick Santorum and, yes, a Newt Gingrich. Whatever human failings these men might possess, at least they’re patriots, and outspoken ones at that. And, oh yes, each comes with a track record, a verifiable past, and a birth certificate.Marylouhttp://marylousamerica.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-2942519474791206412012-01-05T13:22:24.373-05:002012-01-05T13:22:24.373-05:00I fail to see how anyone could come to the defense...I fail to see how anyone could come to the defense of Romney, Perry, Santorum, Gingrich, or Paul – or even to Bachmann’s. As Daniel has already noted, his purpose was not to promote or shill for any of the candidates, but to discuss their failings, lackluster, and alleged but wholly blurry pluses, and why they’re all so damned dismal. I would say that what he was attempting to say was: Here’s Michael Corleone (aka Obama), gang chieftain who gets things done; and here’s his brother, the wimpy Alfredo (aka Romney, Perry, or any other Republican candidate you care to name), a weak, sniveling crybaby who’s afraid of his own shadow. If any of the candidates are hurt, as Daniel explains, they hurt themselves. This is aside from the issue that the MSM is out to hurt any Republican candidate who seems to threaten and foreshorten Obama’s reign of error.Edward Clinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12160209827969614964noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-90949862580667004122012-01-05T12:50:09.753-05:002012-01-05T12:50:09.753-05:00Elan,
"Destroy his candidacy" really?
...Elan,<br /><br />"Destroy his candidacy" really?<br /><br />If you have any specific issues with anything in that article that isn't supported by the facts, feel free to name it. <br /><br />Considering the amount of hate directed at me for doing that analysis, I didn't proceed further.<br /><br />Pieces on Perry's pandering to Islamists did not destroy his candidacy. He destroyed his own candidacy. Attacking me over Perry's implosion isn't even a matter of shooting the messenger, it's shooting someone three doors over.<br /><br />This article is not meant to promote any one single candidate. And it doesn't. It recognizes that there are three anti-Romneys.<br /><br />It doesn't say that people should avoid analyzing their policy positions, but that they should do them in context with those of the other candidates.<br /><br />Finally partisan supporters of any and all candidates might take a serious look in the mirror and consider whether launching attacks on anyone who doesn't immediately pay fealty to their man or woman isn't doing a good deal of harm to their candidate.Daniel Greenfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-22353773984051092572012-01-05T12:19:29.972-05:002012-01-05T12:19:29.972-05:00Yael’s criticism was entirely justified. Daniel’s ...Yael’s criticism was entirely justified. Daniel’s post on Rick Perry was intended to destroy his candidacy by personally associating him – in an attack disingenuously labeled a “preliminary” analysis – with Islam. I checked Daniel’s links at the time and, in my opinion, they did not come close to supporting the conclusion he posted about Perry with an assurance that was much more than preliminary. <br /><br />Unless I missed it, he never posted a “final” analysis. Now that Santorum is the last man standing, Daniel has become a goo-goo – no more preliminary analyses, please. His current post would have more credibility if he recognized that he helped set the standard he now criticizes.Elannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-59341265558684508762012-01-05T12:16:31.839-05:002012-01-05T12:16:31.839-05:00Santorum Should be running for Pope not POTUS. He ...Santorum Should be running for Pope not POTUS. He comes across whiny and self absorbed and got shellacked in 2006. Guys like Santorum is why so many people will not vote Republican. We do not need social conservative scolds and bitchers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-75568979481468051152012-01-05T12:07:11.609-05:002012-01-05T12:07:11.609-05:00Daniel, I didn't say that your post was respon...Daniel, I didn't say that your post was responsible for the entirety of Perry's destruction - which would be wrong - just that it contributed. Granted, the majority of damage he did to himself but I think you underestimate your own influence. I've seen your post on Perry and Islam referred to all over the innernut. To my mind that was a far more vague-yet-potent accusation than what's being leveled against Santorum, that he's "big government." But you and I will just never agree on this one matter. Such is life in the free world.<br /><br />P.S. Edward Cline need not resent my "piling on." I have all the respect in the world for Daniel's thoughts and writings. It is precisely because I think they are important that I take the time to read them, think about them and respond when moved to do so. You can search my blog for "Sultan Knish" if you don't believe me :)Yaelhttp://bokertov.typepad.com/btb/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-82492790549564988682012-01-05T10:25:09.831-05:002012-01-05T10:25:09.831-05:00Yael,
Actually I am lamenting the personal destru...Yael,<br /><br />Actually I am lamenting the personal destruction of all the candidates, not Santorum.<br /><br />There is a difference between examining a candidate's position on an issue and attacking him over petty matters. You will notice I did not do articles on Perry's memory slips or anything of that nature.<br /><br />The piece on Perry and Islam was accurate and relevant, particularly as other candidates in the race were stronger on the issue.<br /><br />The idea that my article destroyed Perry is just plain wrong. Perry was in the lead until he wrecked his own candidacy.Daniel Greenfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-34300851036448887632012-01-05T09:38:20.520-05:002012-01-05T09:38:20.520-05:00I don't know.... Romney is so much the quintes...I don't know.... Romney is so much the quintessential back stabbing, weaselly, double talking, stereotypical politician that I just cannot bring myself to like him...AT ALL.<br />Promiscuity, greed, favoritism (all in moderation of course) are things I expect and accept. As you point out we are all flawed. An axiom to be sure. And...power DOES corrupt, so kept in check all these vices are OK in my book. But you can have flaws and still be a "stand up" guy, or gal. Don't be a weasel, don't offer back handed compliments, don't have a third party (that you are paying directly OR in directly)sling mud, and then claim ignorance.<br />Romney is a capitalistic liberal, dipped in vanilla, expensive suit wearing, good head of hair having..."please excuse my repetition", weasel.<br /><br />Perry! is a wimpier, more handsome (I say in the straightest way possible...not that there is anything wrong with being gay :) version of G.W.Bush- not a good thing.<br /><br />Santorum is a Christian version of "An Evil Muslim". I don't even want to know what a candidates religion IS, much less have there assurance that they will be guided by their faith. To do what? integrate it into our (MY) government? Bull scheisse!. All I hear is constitution this and constitution that, but when it comes down to it this country is run by "majority rule". We are a judeo/christain majority and nowadays Christians and Jews have pretty much crawled out of the dark ages, BUT, what if one day we have a Muslim majority? How will anybody be able to resist the sentiment and reasoning that "when we had a Christian majority" we had a Christian influence in the government. Now that we have a Muslim majority it is only right to have a Sharia guided government- Screw that!!! We need to have the right to practice our faith anyway we see fit-Privately- and in a way that harms no others...PERIOD.peterhttps://twitter.com/#!/cornholejacknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-44096782732430940812012-01-05T09:22:55.927-05:002012-01-05T09:22:55.927-05:00I share a proverb from the wisest ruler who ever l...I share a proverb from the wisest ruler who ever lived as to why 'Kingmaker 2012' is a futile waste of energy and time.<br />You can't straighten the mess from the top down with a mere mortal politician who tells the voters (fools) what they want to hear,it has to come from the bottom up,the people turning back to God from their evil ways ;<br /><br />'Righteousness exalts a nation, But sin is a reproach to any people.'<br />Proverbs 14:34<br /><br />The reproach won't go away with an election. That is not the solution <br />,just a cheap band-aid. <br /><br /><b>'But the bottom line is that they're all 1989 Chevy's'</b><br /><br />The Tower of Babel Country Club elite find it easy to corner and captivate the voting peasants who foolishly think they have any real power.<br />All they have to do is deliver a 1991 Chevy like Jeb 'the fruit does not fall far from the tree' Bush to the now desperate and panicked pseudo conservatives and they will fall into the same trap that have fallen into again and again.<br />***<br />My vote is set in stone and I am not tossed by wave after wave. <br /><br />Smooth and steady sailing all the way with the triumphant plan of the Master which almost everyone ignores as they chase after the latest lying idol.<br /><br />Arise, O God, judge the earth;For You shall inherit all nations.<br />Psalm 82:8Marcelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14390860623982451091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-28526908490235177602012-01-05T08:40:49.040-05:002012-01-05T08:40:49.040-05:00Yael: Why are you piling on Daniel? He’s one of th...Yael: Why are you piling on Daniel? He’s one of the most astute political observers extant. He was right to show a photo of Perry “with men in Arab garb.” Perry’s school textbook episode deserved to be exposed. We don’t hear much about that now, do we, and Perry certainly isn’t talking about it, either. And he was right to link to a Pamela Geller article on the same subject. Frankly, all the GOP runners are “stealth jihad candidates,” because not a one of them will condemn Islam, that is, call it a totalitarian ideology in religious garb. Not even Gingrich. They’re all afraid to name precisely what they’re afraid of: Muslim outrage, charges from CAIR and its Muslim Brotherhood affiliates of racism or bigotry and so on, and afraid that the MSM will simply ratchet up its campaign against them and repeat CAIR’s charges. <br /><br />And I’ll repeat what I’ve already said here: it’s a pretty sorry bunch that’s running against Obama. It’s much like watching the Kentucky Derby when it’s a race between mules, burros, and retired trolley-car horses. No real race horses were allowed to enter. And I doubt that Daniel contributed to the destruction of Perry. With all due respect to Daniel, I don’t think his influence extends to the Iowa or even New Hampshire caucuses.Edward Clinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12160209827969614964noreply@blogger.com