tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post6232676399939485144..comments2024-03-29T00:24:13.128-04:00Comments on Daniel Greenfield / Sultan Knish Articles at DanielGreenfield.org : Reclaiming a Civilization's Dreams to Save its SoulDaniel Greenfieldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-3825111827353971262008-02-21T01:47:00.000-05:002008-02-21T01:47:00.000-05:00Can you imagine the wails of injustice from the NA...Can you imagine the wails of injustice from the NAACP and liberals if anyone publicly suggested that Mrs. Obama move? They'd add "and back to..." to the remark and brand us racists.<BR/><BR/>She can't cite a single source of pride in America in her 20+ years as an adult American. I recognize America's many faults but I can also cite sources of pride.Keli Atahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05089132216830000713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-84021925778706299992008-02-20T21:41:00.000-05:002008-02-20T21:41:00.000-05:00If she isn't proud of America, maybe she should co...If she isn't proud of America, maybe she should consider moving. It might be one thing to hear such a comment from an individual, but another thing from a potential first lady, whose husband already belongs to a racist anti-american church and who has some issues with the flag and the pledge of allegiance... and yet wants to be president.Daniel Greenfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-56990008959816487962008-02-20T19:03:00.000-05:002008-02-20T19:03:00.000-05:00She can't find anything noble about American histo...<I>She can't find anything noble about American history until her duplicitous husband decided to run for president?</I><BR/><BR/>I'm unconvinced that "finding something noble in American history" is the same thing as "being proud of America." There is plenty to admire about all sorts of movements and governments throughout history- a lot of headway in the natural sciences was made in the Islamic caliphates in the early Middle Ages, for instance. My mere acknowledging of that fact does not suggest that I am therefore necessarily "proud" of the caliphate.<BR/><BR/><I>I must say, a statement like that is exactly what I'd expect from a black racist. Anti-Americanism all the way.</I><BR/><BR/>If one cuts through all the conservative dirt-throwers (and the liberal apologists), what I think Mrs. Obama's comment really speaks to is that, right or wrong, there are plenty of Americans who don't find America, either in the past, or its future, particularly admirable. There are a whole number of reasons one could take that position. I assume that this means she thinks America has some serious problems. Why does that make her such a terrible person? Why does that make her, of all things, a racist? Last I checked, PLENTY of people think America has problems. Merely saying this out loud does not make you anti-American. And yes, most of us have the perspective not to toss the entire country & its history into the dustbin for it, and if Mrs. Obama doesn't understand that, then it is a failing on her part. However, among other things, SHE isn't running for office.<BR/><BR/>I see this as an issue of hyperbole (or plain boneheaded-ness), not treason.Friar Yid (not Shlita)https://www.blogger.com/profile/10311439778319103094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-42291863997381915092008-02-20T07:31:00.000-05:002008-02-20T07:31:00.000-05:00I just re-read this in light of Michelle Obama's m...I just re-read this in light of Michelle Obama's mind boggling statement that until was never more proud to be an American than when her husband ran for president. She can't find anything noble about American history until her duplicitous husband decided to run for president?<BR/><BR/>I must say, a statement like that is exactly what I'd expect from a black racist. Anti-Americanism all the way.<BR/><BR/>BTW, I tried to find a video clip on You Tube but couldn't. I hope the media and others aren't going to let her skate on this.Keli Atahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05089132216830000713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-20389413892800992932008-02-20T05:37:00.000-05:002008-02-20T05:37:00.000-05:00“Where there is no vision, the people will perish....“Where there is no vision, the people will perish.” Proverbs 29:18 (KJV)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-18789698700730467452008-02-19T12:41:00.000-05:002008-02-19T12:41:00.000-05:00yes we are in a pickle which is why it's important...yes we are in a pickle which is why it's important to remember about the things that count and how we can fight to make a differenceDaniel Greenfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-61192839870527301212008-02-19T11:46:00.000-05:002008-02-19T11:46:00.000-05:00You are right Sultan, we do need leaders today. In...You are right Sultan, we do need leaders today. In Israel, we have no one in the political pipeline worth even mentioning. In the US, it looks like hussein obama will take it for the democrats and he will surely take mccain in the general elections. Therefore I wish I could say things are looking up, but in reality Israel will be in a real pickle next january. This is more my concern, as this is my home.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-60118789461926257792008-02-19T02:59:00.000-05:002008-02-19T02:59:00.000-05:00thank you shiloh, but we also need leaders now, ga...thank you shiloh, but we also need leaders now, galut isn't over yetDaniel Greenfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-79647436648083018852008-02-19T02:54:00.001-05:002008-02-19T02:54:00.001-05:00Fantastic article Sultan! Even if we would have a ...Fantastic article Sultan! Even if we would have a potential leader, like even Kahane, the 'leaders' (religous or secular makes no difference) will crush any attempt immediatly, as was in this case. But we hope. When the time is right, as in the Exodus, a leader will overcome the erev rav, and goyim to start the redemption. So we wait.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-33086915981809704442008-02-19T02:54:00.000-05:002008-02-19T02:54:00.000-05:00Fantastic article Sultan! Even if we would have a ...Fantastic article Sultan! Even if we would have a potential leader, like even Kahane, the 'leaders' (religous or secular makes no difference) will crush any attempt immediatly, as was in this case. But we hope. When the time is right, as in the Exodus, a leader will overcome the erev rav, and goyim to start the redemption. So we wait.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-53646110046892018372008-02-19T02:04:00.000-05:002008-02-19T02:04:00.000-05:00ephraim you might want to read Windschuttle's The ...ephraim you might want to read Windschuttle's The Fabrication of Aboriginal History to get a clearer answer to that<BR/><BR/>rudd's action moved australia a step closer to rejecting its own existenceDaniel Greenfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-20309942607042596012008-02-19T00:07:00.000-05:002008-02-19T00:07:00.000-05:00To talk about Australia apologizing to its indigen...To talk about Australia apologizing to its indigenous people “for its existence” shows a fundamental misunderstanding of what actually took place.<BR/><BR/>On 13 February, Kevin Rudd, Australia’s new Prime Minister apologised to those Aborinal families and individuals whose lives had been disrupted, sometimes (though not always) with pernicious consequences, when Aboriginal children were forcibly taken away from their parents and communities. Instead of seeing this as a healing, mature, responsible and menschlich act, you describe it as one suggesting “Dhimmitude and decay”. Why?ephraimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13416019764180436045noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-78798326267112890602008-02-18T23:20:00.000-05:002008-02-18T23:20:00.000-05:00no it wasn't confusing and in many ways americans ...no it wasn't confusing and in many ways americans are worse off than the navajo because at least they're trying to recover what was lost, while americans are being indoctrinated to hold their culture in contempt and not to even search for it<BR/><BR/>like the native americans did, we've come to hold what's ours in contempt and to embrace the foreign<BR/><BR/>self-despiteDaniel Greenfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-81473247912526162532008-02-18T23:05:00.000-05:002008-02-18T23:05:00.000-05:00This is a wonderful article, Sultan. I have to dis...This is a wonderful article, Sultan. <BR/><BR/>I have to disagree a little bit Friar. In my opinion this article has suggested a solution--in it's richness and depth and the way it suggests much more elevated goals and visions. And a word almost stricken from the politically correct world--pride.<BR/><BR/>Obama's speeches are pablum given to generation X-ers babies (if that is even a word). Young people don't want to read the classics, not to mention the Tanakh. Nothing really penetrates their hearts, minds, and souls.<BR/><BR/>Do they read the Tehillim and weep over the beauty of the psalms? Do they feel it move their conscience? <BR/><BR/>Yes, I strongly believe that reading the classics and definitely the Tanakh can stir in young people that sense of depth, richness and vision to strive for greater things.<BR/><BR/>But we're talking about a generation that has abbreviated everything in their lives, including language. Ask any high school or college teacher and she'll tell that kids insert chat abbreviations into their essays.<BR/><BR/>Literature and language are so important. I was watching a show on PBS about the Miss Navaho Contest. Interestingly, the girls were not by most standards beautiful. No evening gown or swimsuit competition. Instead, they had to display some aspect of their culture such as breading their hair in traditional Navaho manner.<BR/><BR/>One of the directors of the contest said that a culture can be lost in 20 years when people lose their language and their religion.<BR/><BR/>It was heartbreaking to see several of the contestants weep because they couldn't describe how to get to their homes in Navaho. BTW, it reminded of my friend who convert from Judaism to Catholicism and went almost white when he couldn't recall all the letters on a dreidel.<BR/><BR/>Religion...literature and language...culture...we're losing it all and suffering for it.<BR/><BR/>(I hope this comment wasn't too disjointed or confusing).Keli Atahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05089132216830000713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-82843271038944581192008-02-18T18:10:00.000-05:002008-02-18T18:10:00.000-05:00there's always been an attraction to poking holes ...there's always been an attraction to poking holes in pat answers but unity creates a counterbalance when there is actually something to unite around<BR/><BR/>the real problem is that neither side has much to offer, faux diversity on one side and a faux gated patriotism on the otherDaniel Greenfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-75288081251841753112008-02-18T17:50:00.000-05:002008-02-18T17:50:00.000-05:00As a member of the young and apathetic generation,...As a member of the young and apathetic generation, I have to say I'm still not quite sure if you've articulated any actual solution here. The truth is that there is no central idea that unites Americans anymore, that is, if there ever was (and if there was, the question remains as to whether it was necessarily a good one). Yet there seems to be a palpable <I>desire</I> to have one (certainly judging from the gaggles of college students swarming Obama rallies). So somewhere there's a disconnect. But I for one have no clue what the answer is- after all, you can't force unity on people, and these days, there really doesn't seem to be much of anything that can stand as a unifying front, aside maybe from, "it would be nice if we weren't all dead."<BR/><BR/>The young people of today have come of age in the time of the Daily Show and blogging, and have been taught that there is something admirable in poking holes in pat answers, magical-wishful thinking, and people that are disconnected from reality. And I think that is true. But I also recognize that there is a danger in not being able to replace over-idealized fluff with substance. And my fear is that we are going forward into an ever more dangerous age where our only options will continue to be fluff or aimlessness. I for one wish I could see some other options.<BR/><BR/>I don't look forward to the end of America as a super-power. But I'm not sure I see any other likely scenarios happening.Friar Yid (not Shlita)https://www.blogger.com/profile/10311439778319103094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-12704886639785332952008-02-18T14:08:00.000-05:002008-02-18T14:08:00.000-05:00I believe wth all my heart that every nation you m...I believe wth all my heart that every nation you mentioned threw G-d out.<BR/>Once they did that, they lost it all and G-d has left them to their own devices.Chana @ Lemon Lime Moonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11656854855385193867noreply@blogger.com