tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post6066020575468040330..comments2024-03-28T08:33:10.542-04:00Comments on Daniel Greenfield / Sultan Knish Articles at DanielGreenfield.org : Why The Newsroom is Good News for RepublicansDaniel Greenfieldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comBlogger56125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-3622917303614182732013-04-24T22:39:41.362-04:002013-04-24T22:39:41.362-04:00Hey, came across the article via google...just wan...Hey, came across the article via google...just wanted to add 2 cents in.<br /><br />First up, hands in the air, will admit to being a sucker for Sorkin's writing. However preachy, he can always pull a laugh and roll a story. <br /><br />Interesting reading everyone's feedback on this. As a Brit, it's always weird hearing people using the term 'Liberal' in such a dirty way. I guess we have different meanings. <br /><br />I think the show is massively faulted on many levels and quite clearly acts as a mouth piece for Sorkin's ideology. That said, one thing I don't feel your article deals with here squarely is that there quite clearly IS a problem with the way the media represents itself.<br /><br />A running joke here in the UK is that our news papers are bat shit and our TV is pretty solid. The flip side of that joke is that the US papers are pretty together and the US TV news is mostly nuts, <br /><br />Yes it's having it's cake and eating it and yes, without a doubt the characters are over drawn but I do struggle with the fact that no one seems to be at least ARGUING with that idea.<br /><br />Tis all y'all<br /><br />Peas<br /><br /><br /><br />James Drohannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-47328537703817189412012-09-04T05:27:07.799-04:002012-09-04T05:27:07.799-04:00Hi, everybody! *waving wildly*. It is an honor to...Hi, everybody! *waving wildly*. It is an honor to be here. Sorkin's idea of a "moderate" Republican is a liberal. I can't quite figure out where McAvoy expresses any conservatism. Would a thoughtful Republican frame the abortion debate in the way that Debbie Wasserman-Schultz would? The whole thing is a farce and Sorkin's belief that his real intentions aren't transparent shows how lost in his delusional world he is. And, as usual, liberals seem to be free from any real criticism from this so-called Republican. George H. W. Bush would laugh at this guy and his claim that he once worked for him.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-4350436615231971972012-07-09T20:12:16.495-04:002012-07-09T20:12:16.495-04:00Samspson and Sarah, thanks. Glad you're sticki...Samspson and Sarah, thanks. Glad you're sticking around. The wiring of the mind has to drive the writing.<br /><br /><br />17R3W. "our hero" is a stand in for Sorkin, who is not a moderate Republican, but well to the left. The show would be more honest if it admitted that. <br /><br />Your opinions are not reflected even by reviews of liberal critics which find the show too cloyingly liberal.<br /><br />The usual attacks on the Tea Party as a Koch Brothers conspiracy are exactly what people expect from Sorkin and exactly what he delivers.Daniel Greenfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-81980290772797076022012-07-05T02:57:29.247-04:002012-07-05T02:57:29.247-04:00Ditto to an earlier commenter:
I came because of ...Ditto to an earlier commenter:<br /><br />I came because of Rush but I'll stay for the writing. My amendment?<br /><br />I'll stay for the thinking behind the writing.<br /><br />Super glad to have you in my RSS feed.<br /><br />SarahinMplsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-16224182472536430632012-07-04T08:12:55.327-04:002012-07-04T08:12:55.327-04:00I was wondering if you had watched this week's...I was wondering if you had watched this week's episode?<br /><br />The main plot revolves around the Arizona immigration law, which our protagonist; Will Mcavoy (Jeff Daniels) supports.<br /><br />Granted, there are liberals on the show, who oppose it, but our hero is in favor of it.<br /><br />Additionally, there is a sub-plot where Will (out of concern of being called a R.i.n.o) catches a grenade for Sarah Palin. <br /><br />When she makes a mistake on Fox News, Will Mcavoy tries to clarify here statement, and re-enforce her main point.17R3Wnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-6906562020085474092012-07-02T16:20:14.281-04:002012-07-02T16:20:14.281-04:00Hey Daniel, thanks for your feed back!
"This...Hey Daniel, thanks for your feed back!<br /><br />"This blog isn't syndicated in Google News."<br /><br />It's syndicated on other sites that are syndicated on Google News, and I came back to the source to leave a comment.<br /><br />Search Google News for your title, it's listed several times.<br /><br /><br />"And why would I waste time taking seriously the premise that a liberal spokesman is a Republican because the show uses that disingenuous premise?"<br /><br />One of the things about the West Wing is that the Republicans were "good guys". Sure they opposed the protagonists in the White House, but they were always smart, noble and principled (with few exceptions).<br /><br />They weren't the party of the real world who's "for the mandates, before we're against them". They were principled. <br /><br />Take for example John Goodman who played Speaker of the house turned President, Glen Allen Walken.<br /><br />On the West Wing he stepped up to the the Presidency during a crisis in which the President's daughter was kid napped by terrorists, and the Democratic President could no longer lead.<br /><br />The concern was that that President Walken was too good, and people may not want the liberal Bartlet back.<br /><br />The fantasy element of the West Wing wasn't just that the good guys won, but that the bad guys weren't bad guys.<br /><br />Republicans (on the west wing) were conservatives, and not neo-liberals. <br /><br />"How is someone who has nothing in common with Republicans supposed to be a model for them?"<br /><br />Without having seen the show, how do you know he has nothing in common with them?<br />As I mentioned, he based on (among others) Fox News hosts.<br />Aaron Sorkin can (and does) write people other than Liberal atheists. I always like the character of Harriet Hayes (studio 60: On the sunset strip), who was a right wing Christian.<br /><br />She went to church on Sunday, appeared on the 700 club, and even (While not hostile to gays) opposed gay marriage. Sorkin wrote her wonderfully. <br /><br />I also wanted to know why Now in an election year, we wouldn't take this chance to discuss the past two years?17R3Wnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-28542847228831160542012-07-01T14:28:41.077-04:002012-07-01T14:28:41.077-04:00Heard again on Best of Rush on WRDU. Congrats!!! ...Heard again on Best of Rush on WRDU. Congrats!!! New career in the making.Samson Simpsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16186553661209570502noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-20360933939026736542012-06-29T13:18:49.961-04:002012-06-29T13:18:49.961-04:00This blog isn't syndicated in Google News.
An...This blog isn't syndicated in Google News.<br /><br />And why would I waste time taking seriously the premise that a liberal spokesman is a Republican because the show uses that disingenuous premise?<br /><br />How is someone who has nothing in common with Republicans supposed to be a model for them?Daniel Greenfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-44731694523569203702012-06-29T10:48:00.292-04:002012-06-29T10:48:00.292-04:00When I came across this article in Google News, I ...When I came across this article in Google News, I assumed it would address the topic of Jeff Daniels' roles as the Republican protagonist; Will McAvoy.<br /><br />Aaron Sorkin spent time at Fox News* to research the show and the it takes Will McAvoy less than 5 minutes to ask "if liberals are so smart why do they lose so often?". ****<br /><br />I was hoping to see if Daniel Greenfield thought Will McAvoy was a good (albeit moderate ***) Republican role model, or just a failed liberal attempt at writing one.<br /><br />And yet, Daniel Greenfield addresses none of that. In fact, he almost seems to ignore the issue. Instead the article is just a (not so thinly veiled) insult to liberals. This would be fine if Greenfield actually used an example from the show, but other then mentioning it's set in 2010**, and the mention of impulse control, there is very little about "the newsroom" in an article about "the newsroom".<br /><br />I have little faith that Greenfield actually watched the show, he demonizes. That's the real reflection of today's medium, judge first, ask questions later (if at all).<br /><br />Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the show doesn't have a liberal bias, but in my tiny response I've been able to give more examples to the contrary than Daniel gave in his entire article.<br /><br />* See wikipedia<br />** the pilot episode takes place during Presidents Obama's biggest failure, the "spill here, spill now" disaster of bp's deepwater horizon.<br />*** In one of the trailers Will McAvoy remarks - "I'm a registered Republican, I only seem liberal because I believe that hurricanes are caused by high barometric pressure and not gay marriage."<br />**** That line is literally in the opening scene.17R3Wnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-5044233260555807252012-06-27T22:18:16.369-04:002012-06-27T22:18:16.369-04:00I'm sure they're probably already showing ...I'm sure they're probably already showing it in journalism classes. But culture has always been their weapon. Common sense has been ours.Daniel Greenfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-71277927163181274172012-06-27T21:52:50.594-04:002012-06-27T21:52:50.594-04:00The liberals are playing a long term game here lik...The liberals are playing a long term game here like they did with infiltrating and subverting education. They produce tv shows,movies and books that mix historical facts with their skewed versions of the truth. They know that over time people wil mix what they've seen on the news with what they've seen on the sitcoms. Many people will swear that Sarah Palin said something they saw spoken by Tina Fey on Saturday Night Live. <br /> How long will it be before teachers are showing The Newsroom in history class?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-4886138801125171892012-06-27T21:28:29.882-04:002012-06-27T21:28:29.882-04:00Thank you Jeanne, glad you're still with usThank you Jeanne, glad you're still with usDaniel Greenfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-10744267220746271912012-06-27T21:18:06.209-04:002012-06-27T21:18:06.209-04:00Oh, I have been reading you for years, you are one...Oh, I have been reading you for years, you are one of favorites, you offer so much insight it is remarkable. But even for you, this one is a stunner.Jeanne Pattersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08214081669265679010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-85076150347253860492012-06-27T21:01:52.278-04:002012-06-27T21:01:52.278-04:00Well said. Much better than I did here:
Sorkin F...Well said. Much better than I did here: <br /><br /><a href="http://anonymousgovernmentcontractor.blogspot.com/2012/06/i-was-assaulted-on-my-trip-to-boston-by.html" rel="nofollow">Sorkin Follies</a><br /><br />All I did was dissect the trailer with some facts. IAnonymous Contractorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03486888841531548159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-84912442714526531222012-06-27T14:22:04.862-04:002012-06-27T14:22:04.862-04:00Rush sent me too. I liked it, bookmarked it, and w...Rush sent me too. I liked it, bookmarked it, and will definitely be back.Dougnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-43495446109404374562012-06-27T12:01:24.719-04:002012-06-27T12:01:24.719-04:00aren't you doing the same thing because Obama ...aren't you doing the same thing because Obama won?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-85030434216931755732012-06-27T11:29:44.135-04:002012-06-27T11:29:44.135-04:00The internet is a big place and lots of writers ou...The internet is a big place and lots of writers out there. But I'm glad you liked the recent articles and hope you'll stick around even when the occasional article isn't to your taste. I try to do a lot of different things.Daniel Greenfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-24142201143916592612012-06-27T11:23:00.069-04:002012-06-27T11:23:00.069-04:00Daniel, Yes, Rush is available in the UK and I'...Daniel, Yes, Rush is available in the UK and I've been a subscriber for about 7/8 years.<br /><br />Like Rush, I first read your stuff this week, and can't really understand why it never got on my radar sooner. I've just read "The Cult of Obama" and once again I am mightily impressed. It is, at least, as good as the two pieces that followed it and the perceptive quality of the notions contained in it are enormously revealing.<br /><br />Sorry to keep blowing smoke up your ass, old boy. I'll try to be more retrained henceforth, but I can't issue a guarantee with this.<br /><br />ChurchillAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-47584145964293402382012-06-27T09:48:02.549-04:002012-06-27T09:48:02.549-04:00anon, thank you
Scott, the Dems were always corru...anon, thank you<br /><br />Scott, the Dems were always corrupt but under the influence of the left, they fused that corruption with radical politics whose goal was the transformation/destruction of the country, for a truly toxic mix<br /><br />Churchill, thank you. That's high praise indeed. Does Rush air in the UK?<br /><br />Paul, last time around when Bush won the Times was running articles on their need for therapy after.<br /><br />mmercier, thank you, for now Google provides my bandwidthDaniel Greenfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-20160472427634089332012-06-27T09:18:29.721-04:002012-06-27T09:18:29.721-04:00Another home run Daniel.
I think you are going to...Another home run Daniel.<br /><br />I think you are going to need more bandwith after yrsterday.<br /><br />Our friends over at the freep have the Rush transcript up too.mmercierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13953620681382281656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-4668385413929155432012-06-27T09:13:44.124-04:002012-06-27T09:13:44.124-04:00Another home run Daniel.
I think you are going to...Another home run Daniel.<br /><br />I think you are going to need more bandwith after yrsterday.<br /><br />Our friends over at the freep have the Rush transcript up too.mmercierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13953620681382281656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-17143600918037678432012-06-27T05:45:05.675-04:002012-06-27T05:45:05.675-04:00Excellent article! You hit all the right points; ...Excellent article! You hit all the right points; liberals ARE children, intolerant of intellectual diversity, self absorbed, and delusional. And the line about splitting the MsNBC viewership? That's exactly what happened to CNN. <br /><br />If you think liberals are going to be holed up in their woman-caves glued to HBO, just wait until Obama is shellacked in November. They'll be trying to re-write Carter II as some sort of heroic crusader brought down by evil corporations and, of course, racism. HBO will be tripping over themselves to produce such a fantasy in 2013.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-17964171934400071862012-06-27T04:42:44.047-04:002012-06-27T04:42:44.047-04:00What you yearn to find when you read a piece is &q...What you yearn to find when you read a piece is "insight". It's the most rare of commodities. This article had it in industrial quantities.<br /><br />Then, if you really get lucky, you find that the "insight" is delivered in a package that includes a forceful writing style, with wit, focus, economy and without pretension. We got all that too.<br /><br />I'm British and write for a couple of football (soccer, to you Yanks) blogs and my pen-name is Churchill. I mention this only to explain that I am using the anonymous route to post this because I'm not sure I can get any of the other routes to work and I really did want to come on here and congratulate you.<br /><br />And, yes, I came here via Rush.<br /><br />ChurchillAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-54361464776912775952012-06-27T04:30:46.108-04:002012-06-27T04:30:46.108-04:00Just visited your site after it was featured by Ru...Just visited your site after it was featured by Rush. Love your work and just bookmarked it. Hope to keep up on your latest pieces.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-29110583051730373702012-06-27T02:06:21.070-04:002012-06-27T02:06:21.070-04:00Sultan, thanks to your excellent writing and the d...Sultan, thanks to your excellent writing and the discovery of such by Rush, you'll likely be catapulted into becoming the "Tom Paine" of conservative America. A justified position!mindRiderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12160934421830568737noreply@blogger.com