tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post5832222214376040074..comments2024-03-29T00:24:13.128-04:00Comments on Daniel Greenfield / Sultan Knish Articles at DanielGreenfield.org : Saviors and Politicians - Saint Barack and the GoracleDaniel Greenfieldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-15835972838108202008-04-24T05:54:00.000-04:002008-04-24T05:54:00.000-04:00Kate: I agree with you 100-percent. The broken win...Kate: I agree with you 100-percent. The broken windows theory has a lot of credence that can apply to presidential candidates and their character (or lack of).<BR/><BR/>Obama's got way too many flaws to even be under consideration as president--refusal to say the pledge of allegiance, his wife's comment about not being proud to be an American until her husband's election.<BR/><BR/>Obama's church affliation is a close to Nation of Isalm as he can get without actually joining the group. And in his little race speech he said he could no more reject his racist pastor than his grandmother...so clearly he has no plans to cut his ties with that church.<BR/><BR/>That only speaks volumes about his character.<BR/><BR/>There's a huge difference between a candidate having affairs and being divorced multiple times such as Guiliani and Obama's questionable loyalty to the country.Keli Atahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05089132216830000713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-16300279237938268432008-04-23T22:48:00.000-04:002008-04-23T22:48:00.000-04:00That's funny given how displeased you were when Mc...<I> That's funny given how displeased you were when McCain became the nominee for the GOP. </I><BR/><BR/>The GOP could have had both. The Dems will have to settle for their choice of losers.<BR/><BR/><I> So he's even more moderate than you thought! </I><BR/><BR/>No, just more Farrakhanite.Daniel Greenfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-4035877381617129332008-04-23T22:46:00.000-04:002008-04-23T22:46:00.000-04:00No one needs to boycott anything.Character is more...No one needs to boycott anything.<BR/>Character is more important than you realize and some are of better character overall than others. It is that simple.Chana @ Lemon Lime Moonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11656854855385193867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-53188270376807139162008-04-23T14:32:00.000-04:002008-04-23T14:32:00.000-04:00and in the end putting up a bad candidate for the ...<I>and in the end putting up a bad candidate for the national election is its own electoral reward</I><BR/><BR/>That's funny given how displeased you were when McCain became the nominee for the GOP.<BR/><BR/><I>I guess Obamabad isn't that gay friendly after all</I><BR/><BR/>So he's even more moderate than you thought!<BR/><BR/>Lemon- if character was the only issue most of the people running would have been banned from the start (Giuliani?). It is definitely a factor, but it's not the only determinant, particularly when any principled stand on character (vote 3rd party, don't vote at all) only benefits the other party. When I see GOPers boycotting elections on principle, I'll start.<BR/><BR/>Yobee- Except that I don't trust any of the three as far as I can throw them. They're all slimy, they're all tainted, they're all backstabbers. Because they're all <B>politicians</B>. Which, I admit, as an Obama supporter, is a hard pill to swallow, and may indeed be his undoing, because once reduced to the level of a politician, he's clearly outclassed by the other two. Again, it comes back to agenda. I remain unconvinced that there is that big a difference in personality or ideology between Obama and Clinton. There is, however, a gap between the two of them and McCain. I just happen to be less sick of Obama. If Clinton gets the nomination, I'll happily vote for her over McCain. I'll be disappointed, but I'm not married to Obama.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-42517921087500932862008-04-23T10:44:00.000-04:002008-04-23T10:44:00.000-04:00Kind of like the 'broken window' concept. That mi...Kind of like the 'broken window' concept. <BR/><BR/>That might be a simplification, but it can still apply. Character counts for a great deal. Anyone who would go around breaking windows (sitting in a church that spouts hatred, associating with terrorists, etc.) has some serious character flaws.Katehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09173642175294245534noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-50054889871086625982008-04-23T08:12:00.000-04:002008-04-23T08:12:00.000-04:00Friar yid, it's the little things a person does th...Friar yid, it's the little things a person does that exposes them for what they are or intend to do.<BR/><BR/>Those little things are warning signals and always have been. It's what you look for when you're dealing with people in counseling. <BR/><BR/>When I worked as a counselor in juvenile prison, the main thing you are taught is to look for the little things, because it was there that you saw it all. Before you say it, that doesn't hold true just for prison life, it's true about human nature in general. <BR/><BR/>There are no little things.<BR/>___________________________________<BR/><BR/>Cookie Monster is proud!Yobeeonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13067866336964665242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-28183080140633241932008-04-23T02:17:00.000-04:002008-04-23T02:17:00.000-04:00The things said about Obama are hardly unimportant...The things said about Obama are hardly unimportant they are very important but leftists tend to ignore character in favor of cheap rhetoric. A person is ok if he curses at them in a PC fashion. <BR/>Talking about someone's character is not PC and therefore leaves leftists cold.<BR/> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<BR/>Cookie Monster is on the list now for that <I>half-baked</I> comment!<BR/><BR/>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<BR/>curse you blogger for not having emoticons .Chana @ Lemon Lime Moonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11656854855385193867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-41203874151356447402008-04-23T01:11:00.000-04:002008-04-23T01:11:00.000-04:00who's talking about the choice dems are making, in...who's talking about the choice dems are making, in the end it comes down to the choice americans will make<BR/><BR/>and in the end putting up a bad candidate for the national election is its own electoral reward<BR/><BR/>considering that wright has hit the big time and that's just the primaries, wait till the real fun with rezko and obama's long list of slimy chicago buddies and radical pals become national talking points in the general election<BR/><BR/>in other words you reap what you sow and typically when either the far left or the far right get their dream candidate, the result is disaster at the national level. Remember Goldwater and Stevenson.<BR/><BR/>but no Obama isn't beholden on gay rights, he actually blew gay activists off twice... I guess Obamabad isn't that gay friendly after allDaniel Greenfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-6805501779196277272008-04-22T23:37:00.000-04:002008-04-22T23:37:00.000-04:00your whole speech comes down to, "I'll vote for an...<I>your whole speech comes down to, "I'll vote for anyone who isn't Bush"</I><BR/><BR/>Really now? And here I thought term limits had taken care of that for me.<BR/><BR/>It's not about Bush, it's not about McCain, and it's not about Obama. It's about what they will do while in office. You seem to believe Obama is beholden to Jihadis and will scurry about to do their will (how, exactly, without us becoming wise to him?) I think it's more likely he'll be trying to curry favor with more traditional liberal special interests and pet issues, like environmentalism, unions, and gays. As opposed to McCain's. It's not about the President. It's about the agenda. The bottom line is that you misunderstand the debate or choice Dems are making- it's not between "honest veteran McCain" and "Afrocentrist potential Bin Laden Obama." That dichotomy only works if we BELIEVE your central assumption that all of Obama's mistakes and blunders are actually indicative of treasonous leanings as opposed to puffed-up bouts of boneheadedness.<BR/><BR/>I believe McCain's own talking points about what he will do a lot more than I do all the conservative blogger's questionable assertions about Obama's Jihad leanings. If I didn't, then choosing Obama would seem crazy to me as well. But as long as I think you're all full of crap, there's no reason I shouldn't disagree with McCain's agenda more than Obama's. I'm not a Republican, and I don't want to see Republican values have four to eight more years of traction. And until I see some actual proof that Obama's a sleeper agent as opposed to a guy with a few connections to the Muslim world (not a crime, nor particularly incriminating) and a jackass for a preacher (irritating, but not a deal breaker), I don't intend to change my mind.<BR/><BR/>And yes, Sultan, some of the crap people have been throwing at Obama can only be described as false (or downright manufactured) outrage. His middle name? Not wearing an American flag pin? Wake me up when we start getting substantial here. It all seems desperate. And that's fine. But it's just contributing to Boy who Cried Wolf syndrome. Between allegations of Obama's drug-induced gay sex binge and his supposed-Marxist leanings, well, I just stopped paying attention. Can you blame me?Friar Yid (not Shlita)https://www.blogger.com/profile/10311439778319103094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-69991083672583607082008-04-22T23:18:00.000-04:002008-04-22T23:18:00.000-04:00Lemon: yes, you're absolutely right.Lemon: yes, you're absolutely right.Keli Atahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05089132216830000713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-63240774179198440852008-04-22T23:15:00.000-04:002008-04-22T23:15:00.000-04:00Yo...you are just too funny ROFL.Yo...you are just too funny ROFL.Keli Atahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05089132216830000713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-4531450230230329782008-04-22T23:13:00.000-04:002008-04-22T23:13:00.000-04:00Intersting note on Gore's documentary--he even pla...Intersting note on Gore's documentary--he even plagarized a scene in which polar ice caps are falling.<BR/><BR/>It's from another movie in which NYC is totally flooded by a mega tidal wave. The graphic designer admitted that the scene which is identical to Gore's was entirely computer generated.Keli Atahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05089132216830000713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-45521978327354449422008-04-22T21:00:00.000-04:002008-04-22T21:00:00.000-04:00really friar, false outrage?I bet if McCain had be...really friar, false outrage?<BR/><BR/>I bet if McCain had been attending the Westboro Baptist Church on a regular basis and introducing Fred Phelps around on a regular basis as his mentor, it would be "phony outrage" too<BR/><BR/>your whole speech comes down to, "I'll vote for anyone who isn't Bush"<BR/><BR/>to which I can only say, I appreciate your honestyDaniel Greenfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-17968710016538223832008-04-22T20:58:00.000-04:002008-04-22T20:58:00.000-04:00yes thanks kateyes thanks kateDaniel Greenfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-1392636672656562862008-04-22T18:08:00.000-04:002008-04-22T18:08:00.000-04:00I think if Charles Manson ran for president, the l...I think if Charles Manson ran for president, the liberal dems would stand in whole-hearted support of him. Oh wait! The new Chuckie Manson is running for president! He's just pretend black and muzlim.<BR/><BR/>PS: Lemon: The Cookie Monster is broken by your comment. He thinks your insinuation is crummy. He also wants to know if you have a chip on your shoulder and if it's chocolate can he have it. (shut up Jeff)Yobeeonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13067866336964665242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-5651811786606542682008-04-22T14:26:00.000-04:002008-04-22T14:26:00.000-04:00We are entering the era of false messiahs and fals...We are entering the era of false messiahs and false saviors because people don't like to do for themselves anymore. It seems as if people want government to provide for them in so many ways: save the whales, food, gas, health, jobs. <BR/>Government has gotten too big and too powerful.<BR/> <BR/>It is funny how rock stars need gimmicks and now politicians also use gimmicks to get elected.<BR/>Blame it on Sesame Street. ;)<BR/> They warned it would happen if Sesame Street became popular and they were so right.Chana @ Lemon Lime Moonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11656854855385193867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-58477962594701476162008-04-22T14:05:00.000-04:002008-04-22T14:05:00.000-04:00a political hack who went crazy after losing the e...<I>a political hack who went crazy after losing the election and decided that he's the environmental messiah</I><BR/><BR/>As opposed to Bush, a political ignoramus who went crazy after "winning" the election and decided he's the messiah, period.<BR/><BR/>I know full well Gore and Obama are fallible. I also know I have no interest in electing McCain, particularly as he shifts ever rightward to convince evangelicals and war/immigration hawks to forget his "maverick" past. The new McCain will not fight against the conservative pet issues that I oppose, and will appoint judges that take the country in a direction I feel is misguided.<BR/><BR/>At the end of the day, it really doesn't matter how slimy or pseudo-Muslim you say Obama is. I'm not interested in shoring up the Republicans for another eight years. So I will vote for the other candidate (Clinton or Obama), fully aware that they are probably not even a fraction of what their spin doctors say they are (ditto for McCain). But simply because our pet issues coincide more. I can't speak for other Dems, but I get irked with the Wright stuff because it's poisoning the well, it's dirty politics, and because, more than anything, it's so obviously an act of false outrage. Most Obama-bitching has more to do with politics as usual than any real principles of transparency or truth, or concern about "extremism".<BR/><BR/>The reality is conservatives don't want ANY Dem anywhere near the White House, they were panicked that nothing seemed to stick to Obama, and now that they can smear him as a would-be terrorist who spends his free time burning (instead of wearing) miniature American flags while French kissing Farakhan, they're going to keep it up until November. The right can bleat away all it wants but it shouldn't expect us to keep paying attention while they scream the same old conspiracy theories for the next five months.<BR/><BR/>Obama doesn't have to be infallible. He isn't a Republican and he isn't worshiping at THEIR altar of Guns, God, Gays, and 100 years in Iraq. And that will be enough for me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-27491395902893877132008-04-22T12:58:00.000-04:002008-04-22T12:58:00.000-04:00Psst....Obama and Gore's liberal supporters "excep...Psst....<BR/><BR/>Obama and Gore's liberal supporters "except" us....<BR/><BR/>I think you were saying expect? :)Katehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09173642175294245534noreply@blogger.com