tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post4981895525945241296..comments2024-03-18T19:14:18.804-04:00Comments on Daniel Greenfield / Sultan Knish Articles at DanielGreenfield.org : So That This Never Happens AgainDaniel Greenfieldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comBlogger36125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-26207705192561574382012-07-25T09:14:11.227-04:002012-07-25T09:14:11.227-04:00James Holmes plea, "The gun did it, not I&quo...James Holmes plea, "The gun did it, not I".<br /><br />DP111Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-61596814462036467232012-07-24T12:05:58.320-04:002012-07-24T12:05:58.320-04:00As the above commenter says those who carry now, ...As the above commenter says those who carry now, would continue to carry.<br />We already have concealed carry in many places and certainly not 'dozens' of people are carrying weapons.<br />Most people feel uncomfortable carrying loaded weapons. <br />The right to bear arms is already a right. Millions are not out buying guns.<br />I agree, where do people get these stupid ideas?Chana @ Lemon Lime Moonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11656854855385193867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-28598298535557277972012-07-24T12:02:43.104-04:002012-07-24T12:02:43.104-04:00@ Irwin Ruff
Yes I would prefer people shoot on th...@ Irwin Ruff<br />Yes I would prefer people shoot on their own and end it quickly.<br />Friendly fire is a load of bull. Not that common (vet of 2 wars here)<br /> Don't be a moron. Dozens rarely have guns.<br />The people who carry now, will continue to carry. The majority of people never will carry a weapon of any kind.<br />"Dozens of people firing away" do you sit up nights thinking up these stupid scenarios?<br />Idiotic.Anonymous Posternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-61449116024729670212012-07-24T10:34:59.477-04:002012-07-24T10:34:59.477-04:00To Anonymous, who wrote "So people died in Be...To Anonymous, who wrote "So people died in Beslan because people tried to fight them. In other words if you sit there and do nothing no one would have died?"<br /><br />First, I admit that the Beslan story came through the Russian press, which is not reliable.<br /><br />Second, would you prefer that everyone with a gun start shooting randomly? It isn't completely clear what happened in Breslan, but transfer the gun question to Aurora, with dozens(?) of people firing away when they don't really know what the target is. Even with trained soldiers in the army, there are still cases of "friendly fire".Irwin Ruffnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-24013906392199225572012-07-24T09:15:02.412-04:002012-07-24T09:15:02.412-04:00All gun control laws do is prevent law-abiding cit...All gun control laws do is prevent law-abiding citizens from protecting themselves. Criminals---by definition---disobey any law, regardless of how draconian.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-9179492562629168432012-07-24T07:49:03.499-04:002012-07-24T07:49:03.499-04:00guns do not kill people. people with guns kill pe...guns do not kill people. people with guns kill people.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-60636646004967436382012-07-24T06:54:28.943-04:002012-07-24T06:54:28.943-04:00typo. agreetypo. agreeKeliatahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11413494251297514882noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-12034524678199542782012-07-23T22:17:53.256-04:002012-07-23T22:17:53.256-04:00If law stopped crime everyone would be observing t...If law stopped crime everyone would be observing the 10 commandments perfectly.Chana @ Lemon Lime Moonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11656854855385193867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-88838560594140357192012-07-23T21:19:52.221-04:002012-07-23T21:19:52.221-04:00These are stats just like saying men on average ar...These are stats just like saying men on average are taller than women .<br /><br /><br />Take a look at Detroit , I could go on.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />*****<br /><br />I have to agrete with you on that, Anony. I see these stats weekly.Keliatahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11413494251297514882noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-84441929737907370322012-07-23T21:00:29.010-04:002012-07-23T21:00:29.010-04:00"Systems respond to a failure of control by i..."Systems respond to a failure of control by intensifying control."<br /><br />Most writers write a lifetime without ever writing anything that profound. For you, Knish, that's just another throwaway line<br /><br /> -- spankyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-2619607345233663232012-07-23T20:18:30.367-04:002012-07-23T20:18:30.367-04:00Here are some facts
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...Here are some facts <br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._cities_with_large_African_American_populations<br /><br /><br />Here are the most dangerous cities<br /><br />http://bottomline.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/06/17/12172808-the-most-dangerous-cities-in-america?lite<br /><br /><br />Any common denominator? CarlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-84452903414038429412012-07-23T20:12:44.196-04:002012-07-23T20:12:44.196-04:00Carl Owen said...
Anonymous said:
"I would i...Carl Owen said...<br />Anonymous said:<br /><br />"I would imagine that the stats you use regarding murder, has a direct correlation to the # of blacks in the state."<br /><br />Racist comments like that solve nothing<br /><br /><br />These are stats just like saying men on average are taller than women .<br /><br /><br />Take a look at Detroit , I could go on.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-71922421330270135572012-07-23T18:11:55.903-04:002012-07-23T18:11:55.903-04:00The obvious point is that killing people is illega...The obvious point is that killing people is illegal. Laws don't stop crime or there would be no murder.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-63787549259577296022012-07-23T14:45:43.710-04:002012-07-23T14:45:43.710-04:00Anonymous said:
"I would imagine that th...Anonymous said:<br /><br /> "I would imagine that the stats you use regarding murder, has a direct correlation to the # of blacks in the state."<br /><br />Racist comments like that solve nothing.Carl Owennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-36265329745183840352012-07-23T14:44:23.758-04:002012-07-23T14:44:23.758-04:00Aurora has one of the strictest gun control laws i...Aurora has one of the strictest gun control laws in the nationsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-26306991960279443392012-07-23T14:43:01.142-04:002012-07-23T14:43:01.142-04:00So people died in Beslan because people tried to f...So people died in Beslan because people tried to fight them. In other words if you sit there and do nothing no one would have died?<br />What utter BSAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-66017756995271070382012-07-23T14:37:22.700-04:002012-07-23T14:37:22.700-04:00With the exception of the US military and SWAT tea...With the exception of the US military and SWAT teams most first responders in law enforcement have adequate training in dealing with heavily armed criminals such as this.Keliatahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11413494251297514882noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-36220208099488614382012-07-23T14:33:00.282-04:002012-07-23T14:33:00.282-04:00Very insightful and easy to comprehend article. Pi...Very insightful and easy to comprehend article. Pity so few people in government can grasp this reality.<br /><br /><br />Re Holmes. Given his age and the nature of his crime I'd compare him to the Unibomber. Some sort of psychosis. He had the means and knowoledge. Whether he had an awareness of right and wrong who can tell?<br /><br />Other thoughts on the tragedy--I thought of the IDF the minute I read that Holmes used tear gas. A while back I read that the IDF utilized training of some sort that involves hand to hand combat under such conditions. It's a tragedy that law enforecement in the US and the US military can't get up to speed.Keliatahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11413494251297514882noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-75672693534120834502012-07-23T12:30:14.526-04:002012-07-23T12:30:14.526-04:00To refresh readers' minds about the Beslan inc...To refresh readers' minds about the Beslan incident: It was Putin's federal troops bungling the siege that precipitated the massacre. The Muslims – yes, those adherents of the religion of peace again – had the place booby-trapped. All the children and teachers were herded into the gym, and at the least sign of trouble from the authorities or anyone else, the bombs were fixed to go off, killing everyone, including the terrorists. The terrorists rounded up the male parents, forced them to barricade part of the school, then killed them with a female suicide bomber. The terrorists selected girls and teachers, took them in another part of the school, raped them, then killed them, tossing their bodies out the windows. They made the hostages drink their own urine when water ran short. They randomly shot anyone who looked at them the wrong way. By the time the Russian forces showed up, things had grown desperate. When they began to move in, that's when the terrorists began shooting back and executing hostages. I remember a picture of one woman hovering behind a Russian tank as it broke into one of the school walls. <br /><br />The armed parents were men who wanted to go hunting for the Chechnyan terrorists who planned the whole thing. Putin's government discouraged it. His forces later nailed the terrorist who had planned it.Edward Clinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12160209827969614964noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-15435154556708050572012-07-23T12:19:39.456-04:002012-07-23T12:19:39.456-04:0016 million people in America with some form of men...16 million people in America with some form of mental illness.<br /><br />One movie theater shooting in Colorado.<br /><br />Where were the other 44,000 mass murders that day? And the 44,000 mass murders that must occur each and every day of the year, if we assume that everyone with a mental illness is a mass murderer like Holmes?<br /><br />Given that we do not, currently, assume that the commission of a violent crime is per se evidence of mental illness (and vice versa); why haven't ALL criminals been found NOT Guilty by reason of insanity?<br /><br />Or will there be no need for any criminal justice system once we lock away all the crazies? Any judges? Criminal code?<br /><br />I mean, if the only penalty is life imprisonment in the mad-house; who needs a judge, jury, or different penalties for different crimes.<br /><br />Holmes had never been diagnosed with a mental illness. So, if we round up the mentally ill, how would Holmes have been "locked away" prior to committing his crimes?<br /><br />He would have been missed by the "rounders-up" of the mentally ill. He would have remained free to commit his evil act.<br /><br />Additionally, if the the shooter had been diagnosed, he may not have been able to legally buy his guns .... as the law stands now. Those who have been institutionalized at any point because they posed a danger to themselves or others, are ineligible to purchase any firearm.<br /><br />Lastly (for now), when it comes time to round up those military veterans with PTSD, you can do it, I want no part of it.<br /><br />As with the kids with ADHD; the obsessive compulsives; the depressed; people with tics and tourette's; bulemic women; alcoholics; gamble-holics; people with adjustment disorder from divorce, death of a loved one, or loss of a job; and so on ....<br /><br />Rounding up all people with a mentally illness and permanently institutionalizing them in a concentrated quarantine, ----- isn't that how Hitler started? <br /><br />When do we begin rounding up the mentally retarded? That kid with Down's Syndrome is starting to worry me.Harfornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-19638002502285879692012-07-23T11:47:38.242-04:002012-07-23T11:47:38.242-04:00The brain is a wonderful thing. Re. my previous po...The brain is a wonderful thing. Re. my previous post: The town was Beslan, and the date was 6 September 2004. Once I remembered Beslan, I could find the other details.<br /><br />It wasn't completely clear from the news reports exactly what set off the final killing, but it was strongly suggested that it was the armed parents who precipitated it. And if it was my child in the school, would I have been any different?Irwin Ruffnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-76425123289810611612012-07-23T11:20:50.660-04:002012-07-23T11:20:50.660-04:00Have you ever wondered why there are so many break...Have you ever wondered why there are so many breaking and entering in Britain during the day time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-68765400003727482392012-07-23T11:08:17.555-04:002012-07-23T11:08:17.555-04:00David, it doesn't seem as if much has changed....David, it doesn't seem as if much has changed. The growth of terror has only buried serious studies deeper.Daniel Greenfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-34396946580170568372012-07-23T11:05:54.640-04:002012-07-23T11:05:54.640-04:00you can contact me via email sultanknish@yahoo.com...you can contact me via email sultanknish@yahoo.comDaniel Greenfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-24929257613184813772012-07-23T10:41:40.659-04:002012-07-23T10:41:40.659-04:00My memory is slipping, and a can't pull a name...My memory is slipping, and a can't pull a name out of my memory. I am referring to an incident in Chechnya, when a group of terrorists took over an elementary school, and which ended with a large number of children. I'd appreciate if someone can refresh my memory.<br /><br />What I remember is that the local parents were almost all armed. The police were negotiating with the terrorists, when the locals started firing, touching off the massacre that ensued.<br /><br />If I'm correct, this is just the situation that I'm afraid of. In a darkened movie theater, someone starts shooting. Everyone else then pulls out his gun and starts shooting, with the result that we now have 30 dead instead of 14.<br /><br />Restricting guns may at least reduce the number of guns in play, although admittedly not the number of gun-happy people with guns.<br />After all this, I still agree with your argument.Irwin Ruffnoreply@blogger.com