tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post4571440431890477954..comments2024-03-29T00:24:13.128-04:00Comments on Daniel Greenfield / Sultan Knish Articles at DanielGreenfield.org : Hiroshima's Lessons for the War on TerrorDaniel Greenfieldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comBlogger23125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-83492823535778452042013-08-17T21:44:32.805-04:002013-08-17T21:44:32.805-04:00Fear of a Soviet invasion was certainly a factor, ...Fear of a Soviet invasion was certainly a factor, but as long as Japan believed that it could hold off the US through attrition... Daniel Greenfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-21960846122728260042013-08-17T17:32:01.796-04:002013-08-17T17:32:01.796-04:00Daniel, while I generally agree with your post, I ...Daniel, while I generally agree with your post, I think you (like most of us including myself till 3 months ago) mis-diagnose the reason for the Japanese surrender. The very compelling article at Foreign Policy (http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2013/05/29/the_bomb_didnt_beat_japan_nuclear_world_war_ii) had me convinced that what caused the Japanese surrender was not the atomic bombs (how much everyone liked to think) but Japan's rulers fear of Stalin and the USSR which were neutral up until around that time in the war. <br /><br />/dDror Hararihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02858656992163834931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-5006460241868264092013-08-15T22:03:36.885-04:002013-08-15T22:03:36.885-04:00"Had Oswald been tried for treason after his ..."Had Oswald been tried for treason after his return from Russia, the Kennedy assassination would have never happened;"<br /><br />As a 10 year old boy when JFK was assassinated I had already questioned how Oswald had accomplished such with the poor quality Manlicher-Carcano. There is overwhelming evidence that JFK was the victim of a conspired assassination. The "magic bullet" theory of the Warren Commission was an obvious lie used to justify the argument of a lone gunman. I must say Mr. Greenfield, after reading your remark that Mr. Oswald was the lone perpetrator of this heinous crime, your ignorance on this matter is disappointing.DAN IIInoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-51076588113487171702013-08-14T11:29:46.562-04:002013-08-14T11:29:46.562-04:00@fsy: President Truman was not "...so sure t...@fsy: President Truman was not "...so sure that Japan would surrender...", but the atom bombs were all he had available as an alternative to an invasion of Japan's Home Islands. The generals of the time and their staffs estimated about twenty million Japanese casualties (both military and civilian) and two to three million U.S. military casualties, if we invaded Japan, in a campaign taking three to five years. Whether they were accurate or not, those projections were what Truman had to work with and he desperately wanted to avoid that. Why did Japan surrender? Because the Emperor believed Truman had more atomic bombs and was certain he would use them if he had them. Yes, other cities had been bombed into rubble, but after many days and many aircraft. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were one plane, one dead city. Horrific at the time, and so the Emperor Hirohito overruled his military government and announced the surrender of Japan over the radio to the entire Empire to avoid a nation of Hiroshimas and Nagasakis. He said as much, many years later. Certainty only appears in retrospect; in prospect, one must throw the dice and pray to one's gods.<br />(Comment by Ike)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-88909833051077426982013-08-14T09:58:57.330-04:002013-08-14T09:58:57.330-04:00yup Jerry, liberalism won out
rowboat, thank you
...yup Jerry, liberalism won out<br /><br />rowboat, thank you<br /><br />FSY, the Japanese strategy depended on sucking the US into an extended war of attrition, a pre-vietnam vietnam that would exhaust and destroy the US.<br /><br />The atom bomb wiped out that strategy. They were left with the stark choices of surrender or mass suicide.<br /><br />And in the end, mass suicide proved to be a bluff.Daniel Greenfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-5900643956039388132013-08-14T08:39:46.113-04:002013-08-14T08:39:46.113-04:00Mr. Greenfield, you outdo yourself every day, but ...Mr. Greenfield, you outdo yourself every day, but this column is going to be hard to top.rowboatsyndicatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04793337557128513848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-10030110346139002252013-08-14T07:35:07.768-04:002013-08-14T07:35:07.768-04:00I never quite understood why Truman was so sure th...I never quite understood why Truman was so sure that Japan would surrender, or for that matter why they actually did so. They were so ruthless and devoted to their ideology to the point of suicide, so why was the nuclear attack so effective? Perhaps they thought that the U.S. had and endless supply of A-bombs to drop on them?<br /><br />In any case, it is not clear to me that Islam (which in any case does not have a central leadership as Japan did) would somehow surrender even after a devastating attack. Of course, this does not justify appeasement of evil, but the proper means of subduing it are not obvious.fsynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-4473642166978522852013-08-14T01:09:48.426-04:002013-08-14T01:09:48.426-04:00Sultan, More information (from Wikipedia) for you...Sultan, More information (from Wikipedia) for your readers on Kawakita. I had not heard of his case, and appreciate your bringing it up.<br /><br />"On September 2, 1948, a jury of 9 men and 3 women found that Kawakita owed allegiance to the United States during his residence in Japan. Charged with 15 overt acts, he was found guilty of eight. His U.S. citizenship was revoked, and he was sentenced to death.<br /><br />Kawakita appealed the decision to the United States Supreme Court, which heard it in April 1952. On June 2, 1952, the Supreme Court ruled to support the lower court's judgment and confirmed Kawakita's death sentence.<br /><br />However, President Dwight D. Eisenhower viewed the punishment as excessive and on October 29, 1953 commuted Kawakita's sentence to life imprisonment. Ten years later, during the closing of Alcatraz prison where Kawakita was serving his time, President John F. Kennedy pardoned him on October 24, 1963 on the condition that he be deported to Japan and banned from American soil for life.[2]<br /><br />--Jerry W.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-32715606108171167932013-08-13T17:43:04.075-04:002013-08-13T17:43:04.075-04:00If I didn't want people to share my articles w...If I didn't want people to share my articles why would I write them?<br /><br />So I can hoard them, put them under my pillow and sleep on them?Daniel Greenfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-92019123191593164872013-08-13T15:03:13.545-04:002013-08-13T15:03:13.545-04:00Re: I always welcome people sharing my work.
I n...Re: I always welcome people sharing my work. <br /><br />I never thought about asking permission to share your work...I certainly should have! Your reply to LadyMoonlight allowed me to exhale. I share your articles every way I possibly can.<br />- BarbaCatAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-69363442111371838662013-08-13T12:53:08.013-04:002013-08-13T12:53:08.013-04:00Devastating article as usual... Sultan Knish demol...Devastating article as usual... Sultan Knish demolishes with historical knowledge and ruthless logic the PC arguments of the delusional liberal leftists and their omnipresent media. Congratulations once more!! [sniff... the world is gone so dumb I want to cry!!!]Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-24714129971054742272013-08-13T12:28:05.385-04:002013-08-13T12:28:05.385-04:00This is both brilliant and chilling. It's a s...This is both brilliant and chilling. It's a sad reminder of the lack of backbone in America and the namby-pamby politicians (right & left) who are running our country straight into the hands of Islam with a wink & a wish instead of a fist and a sword. The progressives have been trying to get a stranglehold in America for many decades & this combination of political correctness & appeasement with Islam has given the Obama administration the 'perfect storm' they've needed to kill our country, or 'level the world's field'... I pray every day this isn't the end, and I'll go down fighting if it is, but it's difficult to stay optimistic at this point. Thank you for your words, Daniel; you give me many of the verbal tools I need to continue my battle. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-35299936741430214472013-08-13T12:25:51.992-04:002013-08-13T12:25:51.992-04:00Well said, as usual. It is as simple as that. Our...Well said, as usual. It is as simple as that. Our leaders fear being hated more than they do our dedicated enemies. This simple message has to be circulated until it is put before their noses. They don't want to see it, but it must be said, and the People have to realize this fear of being hated is causing our insecurity and the loss of our blood and treasure.<br />DenisDenisOnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-40640551939609900712013-08-13T10:16:23.084-04:002013-08-13T10:16:23.084-04:00Americans seem to have no conception of the wars i...Americans seem to have no conception of the wars in which the US is engaged or forcing other nations to engage. It’s understandable if their only source of news is the American media, since that is almost completely controlled by the pro-arab Obama and his appointed flunkeys. It is very clear for those who want to see the truth that obama is an effectively pro-arab agent, as are his minions. It is impossible to broker a real peace between Israel and the arabs, since the arabs don’t want peace. He is therefore using the power of the US and the lies of his minion Kerry to weaken Israel to the point where she can be destroyed. Is the Sultan suggesting that the US drop an atomic bomb on Israel, and settle the war? I’m sure 98% of the world will cheer.Shlomo ben Shmuelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-35746456915098837182013-08-13T10:09:01.183-04:002013-08-13T10:09:01.183-04:00Hassan was "workplace violence" in the s...Hassan was "workplace violence" in the same way that English soldier Lee4 Rigby's beheading after being run down in a car was a "traffic accident that went wrong". FrankSnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-64851460593851026932013-08-13T10:06:20.977-04:002013-08-13T10:06:20.977-04:00I sent an earlier version of this article, from Fr...I sent an earlier version of this article, from Front Page Magazine, to my father, who is a WWII veteran. He fully agrees with the contrast between the current "war" and the war he fought where the desire to achieve victory was tantamount in the minds of all patriotic Americans. As he has said to me, "We did what we had to do."Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07226409192735347012noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-30857426754287762632013-08-13T08:12:39.681-04:002013-08-13T08:12:39.681-04:00I always welcome people sharing my workI always welcome people sharing my workDaniel Greenfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-54297515711289920642013-08-13T04:32:53.420-04:002013-08-13T04:32:53.420-04:00Daniel, I think this is the best thing you have wr...Daniel, I think this is the best thing you have written since I have been coming to read your articles. It's bloody brilliant! I have been arguing the same ideas for years,just not so articulately. Well done. How do you stand on your readers posting your pieces in other forums so that people don't know of this site can still read your wisdom? I would like to post this somewhere else.LadyMoonlightnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-66940206192610911572013-08-13T03:56:17.106-04:002013-08-13T03:56:17.106-04:00Another pointed analysis of the anally located thi...Another pointed analysis of the anally located thinking mechanism of our leadership. <br /><br />First, it was a tragedy for many Japanese civilians that we nuked them. I've been to Hiroshima and the museum there. I cannot imagine (although I have read the accounts) of what it was like there when they got nuked and the aftermath. That being said, it was the Japanese leadership that started that crap by senselessly bombing non-military targets and rampaging through civilian populations after conquering them. I recently learned from reputable military sources that not only did the Japanese soldiers torture and mutilate our soldiers when captured, they ate them. Ever wonder why many GI's, Marines, and Sailors did not talk about WWII? Now I know why. There were no tears shed when caves and bunkers got blown or burned out. No tears shed when cities were showered with incendiary bombs and finally nuked. I cannot imagine anyone in their right mind wanted to fight the length of Japan after Manila, IJ, and Okinawa.<br /><br />Second, the leftists cry over Cuernavaca as it was bombed by the fascists, but the US and Brits are vilified that we needlessly bombed Dresden for no reason at all (except maybe it was full of Nazis?). No similar criticism of Stalin when his troops leveled cities and ravaged civilian populations, or when the soviets tore up Budapest in 1956.<br /><br />The Viet Minh/Cong terrorized, tortured and murdered Vietnamese, but that never made the news here. However, we have no excuse regarding the recent reincarnation of the fascists in head scarfs. The acts of these "holy" warriors make the news daily.<br /><br />My conclusions are this: 1) OPEC oil money buys weapons, influence, silence and complicity. 2)The powers that be insist on treating terrorism as criminal acts as it relieves them of the responsibility of identifying the state sponsors of terrorism, declaring war on them, and obliterating them as we did Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy, and Imperial Japan. See #1 for why.Just a common 'taternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-85266292347625403252013-08-13T02:40:35.614-04:002013-08-13T02:40:35.614-04:00My only quibble is with the last paragraph. It'...My only quibble is with the last paragraph. It's not about being liked or hated, it's another layer of control upon the masses, including the military. <br /><br />We have been pc'd, ridiculed and ostracized if we don't "turn the other cheek". The Nidal case best exemplifies the price that was paid.<br /><br />The cancerous (let's be friends) mindset post WWII has metastasized and the timing couldn't be worse with Obamacare, which also stands as a metaphor for our ills.<br /><br /><br /><br /> Sadienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-64189374356121627192013-08-13T02:23:19.044-04:002013-08-13T02:23:19.044-04:00Sir:
Your analysis is always superb.Sir:<br /><br />Your analysis is always superb.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-44088827875548895432013-08-12T22:19:14.329-04:002013-08-12T22:19:14.329-04:00Nidal Hasan, defending himself, insists he is an I...Nidal Hasan, defending himself, insists he is an Islamic terrorist while the US Government insists that he isn't. It would be comical if not for the human carnage. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-36656296731615881632013-08-12T21:11:22.780-04:002013-08-12T21:11:22.780-04:00Do you want to put a knot in a liberal's panti...Do you want to put a knot in a liberal's panties? Observe that more American lives are destroyed in abortion clinics EVERYDAY than died in the Twin Towers on September 11. <br /><br />So is it just a matter of body-count or not? They cannot have it both ways.Eaton Rapids Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09102166969915526172noreply@blogger.com