tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post3906355865756659619..comments2024-03-28T12:37:03.760-04:00Comments on Daniel Greenfield / Sultan Knish Articles at DanielGreenfield.org : The Inevitability of Sharia Law in the WestDaniel Greenfieldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-79674213757845393382011-04-19T16:52:07.138-04:002011-04-19T16:52:07.138-04:00Ah, the moderate muslim - where are they, this Isl...Ah, the moderate muslim - where are they, this Islamic equivalent of a unicorn...?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-13829735302919044852010-05-05T16:55:14.786-04:002010-05-05T16:55:14.786-04:00Islam- the satanic cult of mass murder, mass force...Islam- the satanic cult of mass murder, mass forced conversion and gangrape- is the root cause of most of the problems of world. In any part of the world they reach, they start breeding faster than rabbits to gain control of that area, they live in their ghettos and never integrate with the mainstream and what is more, then they demand favours from governments for their backwardness which is due to their own practices. When they reach 15-20%, they start demanding a separate nation and waging jihad for it. When they reach majority, forced mass conversions, riots and arsons in and about their ghettos starts. And after reaching 70-80%, they start cleansing the country of Kafirs by mass persecution, murders and rape (example- Bangladesh). Open-minded Europeans and Americans blundered by treating the Muslim serpents as fellow human beings, allowed them to settle in their countries and now are paying the price! In India, we can see the effects- already they've reached 15-20%. Do you think 26/11 was perpetrated without the help of local Muslims? Open your eyes and see, the truth is there for everyone to see. In India, alas, we have a whole mass of 'pseudo-intellectual' pseudo-secular Muslim appeasers and sycophants, who have made blatant lying, Hindu-bashing, distortion of facts and Muslim glorification the only mission of their lives. But you can't turn the day into night by just tightly closing your eyes! Don't believe me? Go watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTV1spgb1-k. Go to http://www.faithfreedom.org/ and http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/index.html. Find out what happened in Lebanon and Malaysia. Find out about Kashmiri Pandits, Bangladesh. And, dear 'liberals', tell me were Beslan massacre, Beirut bombings and 9/11 in response to Gujarat riots? Mind you, once they are finished with getting rid of us unbelievers, they will turn upon you and kill you also, unless you convert or pay Jaziya and surrender your womenfolk for 'comforting' of the tired 'holy warriors'!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07011086285483882852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-2508549743244400452010-04-28T11:01:32.413-04:002010-04-28T11:01:32.413-04:00Thanks for another great article.Thanks for another great article.Cat Knoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-53600869803274275502010-04-27T22:51:09.966-04:002010-04-27T22:51:09.966-04:00It seems as though most Moslems are sadistic.Where...It seems as though most Moslems are sadistic.Where does this psychological problem come from.Warrennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-15597182400600750462010-04-27T22:50:28.404-04:002010-04-27T22:50:28.404-04:00Dee, for me it is a consolation.Dee, for me it is a consolation.Chana @ Lemon Lime Moonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11656854855385193867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-2391079341129999372010-04-27T19:38:32.349-04:002010-04-27T19:38:32.349-04:00Ilan,
You're talking about an effort to conve...Ilan,<br /><br />You're talking about an effort to convert millions of people, many in insular communities, some who barely speak the language of the land... and who are fundamentally resistant to any such efforts.<br /><br />And doing so fast enough to beat both a high birth rate and immigration. It's not likely to do anything more than make a minor dent.<br /><br />And considering how much money the Saudis have put into promoting Islam, it wouldn't likely even result in a net gain.Daniel Greenfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-20006723982877300242010-04-27T19:36:36.536-04:002010-04-27T19:36:36.536-04:00Sammish,
It is inevitable when a demographic tipp...Sammish,<br /><br />It is inevitable when a demographic tipping point is reached.Daniel Greenfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-80204018157376457502010-04-27T18:06:26.705-04:002010-04-27T18:06:26.705-04:00The title seems to suggest that Sharia laws are in...The title seems to suggest that Sharia laws are inevetable to avoid in the West. As if it is a "fait accompli". Or is it? I understand that the entry provides and explains succinctly the factors inherent in the so called religion of peace and the lax attidutes by which western democracies have left the situation go from bad to worse, yet it does not provide clues or ways by which to counter this plague.<br /><br />I agree, given the nature under which the Western democratic institutions operate and the apologist tendencies of the major political parties have towards encroaching islamization, that this situation may seem hopeless. However, there is still time to counter-attack. But I beleive that a major change has to occur and I mean major. And this may spell some discomfort for a lot of people in the West, because a change means a change against the democratic values the West is accustomed with. In the end, islamization cannot be contained with democracy. It is impossible for democracy to win. Islam is totalitarian in nature. It needs I beleive a similar system to counter it and eventually to overcome it. This political system needs not be totalitarian or fascist like in nature but with a large base of political consensus, it can be done, similar to what the state of Israel has done all a long to counter its enemy from within and outside. In sum, you will need a stick, and not a carrot. This may seem too simplistic or naive but are there any other ways? <br /><br />In the final analysis, we have to remember that islam works with the "taquiya" process, which is the political deceit of the first order as the ultimate process and goal to spread islam (if it is not the sharia laws) all over the world, because it knows too well that military victory is out of the question and an impossibility. Another point, they are still many so-called arab countries in which islam is the predominant religion yet they still have not instituted Sharia laws. Until these countries fall under the wahabist and salafist orthodox islam, the West has still some time on its hands to work out a strategy. Until that time comes, western democracies can still work towards undermining and eradicating any sign of small sharia laws wanting to be impleted in the western democracies,....no exemption.sammishnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-90999259202052538912010-04-27T15:05:54.316-04:002010-04-27T15:05:54.316-04:00A parallel system of Creeping Sharia is becoming a...A parallel system of Creeping Sharia is becoming a serious problem in the U.S., and it must be legally defeated everywhere it violates the separation of church and state and the equal protection provisions of our Constitution. That said, I don't believe Sharia will ever become the Law of the Land. If you make a side-by-side comparison of Sharia with the U.S. Constituion, there are dozens of serious disconnects. See: http://www.annaqed.com/en/content/show.aspx?pod=1&aid=16242 Unless there is a revolution or an invasion by a Muslim power, each of these disconnects will have to be changed by a constitutional amendment. The process requires not only a 2/3 vote of both houses of congress but also ratification by 3/4 of the individual states. Even with the demographic trends, such an outcome is virtually impossible.<br /><br />What can be done? Oppose, condemn, and ridicule Sharia Law at every opportunity. Do not allow a parallel system to take root here. Sharia Law is barbaric.ChrisLAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09719451644307903862noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-17940339508217721152010-04-27T13:38:19.244-04:002010-04-27T13:38:19.244-04:00Daniel
I have family in Russia, and go there. Isl...Daniel<br /><br />I have family in Russia, and go there. Islam only exploded in the last 30 years or so in Russia, and it wasn't with conquering, or births. The native commie and Orthodox Xtian population are converting to Islam after the commie restrictions were lifted. The Orthodox church grew too, but then declined.<br /><br />What helped Islam rise wasn't immigration or conquest but declining commieness and Orthodox Xtianity.<br /><br />Do you have figures for what the demongraphics are in the USA? or even in the West? I suspect that it's the same case. we thinks it's immigration, but it's rarely that simple. <br /><br />Why won't converting them work? that's the only viable option.<br /><br />Civil strife won't work, for the same reason they're sucking up now to leftists and wannabe commies. For the USA it would be suicide, if it took to civil strife against it's Moslem population. Maybe Europe yes, First you'd need to actually convince people of a threat. Do you see that happening with liberals who you yourself say blame the West for all ills? and even if it did happen (as it did in the Balkans) There would be blowback from the Moslem countries, remember Kosova came about after Nato was pressurised by OIC, and civil strife in the Balkans hasn't lessened Islamic influence there. <br /><br />There needs to be a concerted effor to proselytise something to Moslems, but what? Not xtianity, but something else may work. I don't think they'd choose Xtianity for the same reasons we don't.Ilannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-62452201735224547292010-04-27T10:03:15.452-04:002010-04-27T10:03:15.452-04:00Hi.
as usual a very straight to the point article....Hi.<br />as usual a very straight to the point article.<br />I agree with your final conclusion in the end some will also leave their country, those who are left will end up in a civil (religious)war.<br />Will.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02987737871351359966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-45710878758499995642010-04-27T09:50:28.450-04:002010-04-27T09:50:28.450-04:00Anonymous,
Possibly, but there are some problems ...Anonymous,<br /><br />Possibly, but there are some problems with that. For one thing women tend to have little autonomy in the Muslim world. It may have some impact on Muslim women in the West, or would unless Western feminists had not already decided that Muslim women are not oppressed and that Islam is already feminist.Daniel Greenfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-38041433334932596162010-04-27T09:48:08.187-04:002010-04-27T09:48:08.187-04:00DP,
AGW exists in order to reduce the technologic...DP,<br /><br />AGW exists in order to reduce the technological expansion and abilities of First World countries. It is not seriously meant to apply to the Third World or to Muslims. And any environmentalists who claim otherwise would quickly find themselves unwelcome in the larger left wing coalition, unless they didn't mention it.<br /><br />Using a tool of the left against the left won't work, because this is a tool designed to be used against the West, not the East.Daniel Greenfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-35056352190145008052010-04-27T09:45:56.255-04:002010-04-27T09:45:56.255-04:00Ilan,
Russia has a rising Muslim population becau...Ilan,<br /><br />Russia has a rising Muslim population because it conquered a whole lot of Muslim countries, and then tried to rule over them. Same reason France and England had one originally. Russia could still try to keep Muslims from the Republics out, but it isn't seriously trying to.<br /><br />Some Muslims might convert, but considering that Islam is more fanatical and has well funded conversion efforts behind it-- such a competition is not going into to result in a significant net loss for Muslims in the West. For it to succeed, you would actually have to beat their birth rate, and considering the moribund religious state of the West, the insularity of many Muslim communities, etc<br /><br />Expecting to convert the majority of them, especially voluntarily, is just not going to work.Daniel Greenfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-12378935993320758412010-04-27T08:51:16.157-04:002010-04-27T08:51:16.157-04:00So how does one purge Nazism, Socialism or Islamis...So how does one purge Nazism, Socialism or Islamism?<br /><br />History gives us two solutions, first to let it 'run its course' so the Russians had 70 years of terror before the system collapsed, or by VIOLENT opposition where advocates of totalitarianism are PURGED and the country restored to 'normality' (as with Pinochet in Chile).<br /><br />Islam has proven much harder to purge, the Balkan states are a good example, Kosovo having just been 'won' back to Islam - thank-you NATO...<br /><br />There is no Historical presedent for the first solution with Islam, there is only violence and ethnic cleansing...Mikecnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-13933009576524689862010-04-27T06:52:33.202-04:002010-04-27T06:52:33.202-04:00Ultimately I think that there is only one force th...Ultimately I think that there is only one force that can restrain militant Islam -- feminism. <br /><br />It's certainly a low probability, but our only chance is for rot from within to prevail. <br /><br />There can be no external pressure which is as strong as co-opting at least some material portion of the 500 million women living under the repression of Islam. <br /><br />The other side must know this too. Look at all the rage/effort to prevent female education in Afghanistan.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-27236681342337725782010-04-27T06:14:21.261-04:002010-04-27T06:14:21.261-04:00DG wrote: And that is not to have people inside yo...DG wrote: And that is not to have people inside your borders who want to see the country turn into a Nazi, Communist or Islamist state. If you fail to do that, then sooner or later, you will either face a bloody civil war, or/and live under a Communist, Nazi or Islamist state.<br /><br />That has been my point for more then 30 years. It became insistent since 9/11.<br /><br />There is no way but to get Muslims out of the West ie Separation. The danger as I see it is not from Jihadi Muslims but from peaceful "moderate" Muslims, simply because it is the numbers that count.<br /><br />The question is how to do this while the Muslim population is still small enough for it to be doable. I have been posing this problem.<br /><br />How can it be done, when many if not all Muslims in the West have committed no crime. There is no cause or justification for taking such extraordinary measures against them- yet to has to be done.<br /><br />One method I suggested is to use AGW. Assume and go along with the UN and all Western governments, that AGW is such a huge threat. So huge that it is in the nature of an extinction event.<br /><br />Given that AGW could lead to the death of billions of people, and that humans are the cause of of AGW, it becomes possible to use any force to limit female fertility to 2. We apply this in the West only, as our consumption of energy is the largest per capita, and therefore poses the greatest threat to mankind (AGW wise). <br /><br />Those unwilling to limit their family size, will given the AGW threat, be forced to do so. Draconian methods can be applied, as the well being of the planet is involved. Those people unwilling to comply even when confronted by punitive financial and other legal strictures, will simply leave the West, and go to a Muslim country where they do not have to limit their family size. For many if not all Muslims, it is not possible for them to comply with a restriction on family size.<br /><br />If OTH, if said group or any one of its members, agrees to population limits, the threat is neutralised.<br /><br />Therefore no compulsion is applied anywhere, except in limiting population growth, which is really being done to prevent an AGW/ACC planetary catastrophe.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-39698048247771600182010-04-27T05:50:11.301-04:002010-04-27T05:50:11.301-04:00Rather, "When you have no tool but a hammer ....Rather, "When you have no tool but a hammer . . ."Punditarianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04979719360227114238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-62267716035493732952010-04-27T03:23:00.229-04:002010-04-27T03:23:00.229-04:00"And that is not to have people inside your b..."And that is not to have people inside your borders who want to see the country turn into a Nazi, Communist or Islamist state."<br /><br />Daniel, what do you suggest then? Banning immigration? Russia is half Muslim, despite the rigorous commieness imposed upon the population. Native Moslems not immigrants. Do you have figures as to how many Moslems in the West are immigrants and how many are native (converted)? I suspect as in Russia, the latter figure is higher. <br /><br />One solution would be to encourage Moslems to convert to another religon, become atheist. Why do you automatically assume that they won't? The Orthodox in Russia are leaving the Church, Americans are turning left and leaving the church. <br /><br />The Moslems can be persuaded to do the same. <br /><br />I think we should concentrate on converting MoslemsIlannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-42646248665249574502010-04-27T02:03:08.602-04:002010-04-27T02:03:08.602-04:00Lemon: You say that as though it's some consol...Lemon: You say that as though it's some consolation. Unfortunately, if the milk is gone it makes no difference whether the cat drank it, or the dog. <br /><br />I agree as almost ever with Daniel, but would go further to predict within the first half of this century, no less atrocity than Sharia-legal public floggings in a European country.<br /><br /><br />David, Thailanddeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01545098224752936074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-62321208704631002792010-04-27T00:35:42.740-04:002010-04-27T00:35:42.740-04:00Great article. Sharia law is the opposite of freed...Great article. Sharia law is the opposite of freedom.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16279561372351668977noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-79177588694400344362010-04-27T00:20:31.056-04:002010-04-27T00:20:31.056-04:00Awful, horrible stuff.
One day the liberals of the...Awful, horrible stuff.<br />One day the liberals of the world will cringe when they see what they have brought down on the world.Chana @ Lemon Lime Moonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11656854855385193867noreply@blogger.com