tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post3883811123274004324..comments2024-03-29T11:05:38.781-04:00Comments on Daniel Greenfield / Sultan Knish Articles at DanielGreenfield.org : Countdowns in Tehran and JerusalemDaniel Greenfieldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-38694755331514767292012-08-27T17:51:19.732-04:002012-08-27T17:51:19.732-04:00I don't see anything "happening" asi...I don't see anything "happening" aside from the usual graffiti and occasional synagogue torching.<br /><br />More to the point, this won't be an OPEC embargo. Anything that happens with Iran, will make the Arab Gulf states more dependent on the US to protect them. Daniel Greenfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-69866149407381729622012-08-27T17:47:52.346-04:002012-08-27T17:47:52.346-04:00What happens to Jews in America if the Israel-Iran...What happens to Jews in America if the Israel-Iran (or other moslem country) has secondary and tertiary consequences such as oil prices greater than $200/bbl, Suez Canal and/or Straights of Hormuz closed and the severe economic toll such events would have in America?David Lhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03781080008286021208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-17956724564460967122012-08-27T14:17:40.764-04:002012-08-27T14:17:40.764-04:00Excellent article. You hit the key issues on the ...Excellent article. You hit the key issues on the nose.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-69258590728428888842012-08-24T22:56:03.251-04:002012-08-24T22:56:03.251-04:00One of the better analysis I've read. One dis...One of the better analysis I've read. One disagreement, or rather, a parallel view. Today's NYTimes, the official publication of the Obama campaign, contained a 180 degree reversal from their op ed last week criticizing Israel for a supposed drumbeat of war. Today, on the front page, we saw the beginning of the buildup of justification for an "October surprise". If Obama falls below 65% support of the Jewish communities in Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Florida, which would cause losses there, and in the overall general election, he WILL bomb Iran.Otajahohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04076568103915726629noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-84532957067108628542012-08-24T16:20:50.514-04:002012-08-24T16:20:50.514-04:00Re, your first point. I don't think Israel can...Re, your first point. I don't think Israel can afford to take the risk that Obama won't win. And even if Romney wins, the US will still be obstructing an Israeli attack.<br /><br />Re, the Saudis, I mentioned that in the article.Daniel Greenfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-55694322379669756152012-08-24T15:43:57.579-04:002012-08-24T15:43:57.579-04:00Interesting analysis, but a couple of more points ...Interesting analysis, but a couple of more points that should be taken into account.<br /><br />First, would an Israeli attack in October help or hurt Obama's chance at re-election? There is no doubt of the palpable dislike by Netanyahu for Obama and that most Israelis feel that Israel, in the long run, would be better off if Obama loses. <br /><br />Second, the Saudis are just as scared of a nuclear Iran as are the Israelis. They've done everything short of taking out full page ads in the JPost begging Israel to attack Iran. Keep in mind that Saudi Arabia is more like a family business than a country.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-73859432668859215252012-08-24T14:42:11.002-04:002012-08-24T14:42:11.002-04:00"... unified Muslim Middle East would probab..."... unified Muslim Middle East would probably successfully invade the US. ..."<br /><br />That's doubtful. The combined might of the Arab nations tried to invade Israel some time back, and they're right next door, and were beaten back handily. We're half a world away, separated by an ocean.<br /><br />That does not discount a "sneak attack", from bases in South America.<br /><br />As far as invasion goes, I worry more about China, which by then would have Russia on its side.ZZMikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16913899667726940233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-44285511295652401832012-08-24T01:28:39.851-04:002012-08-24T01:28:39.851-04:00I see no way Israel can win. Literally. None. Some...I see no way Israel can win. Literally. None. Somebody please explain how. This is truly desperate and time is running out. It's the 11th hour of the 11th hour. And this will not just be a second Holocaust for Israeli Jews, it will be one for Jews around the world. Sometimes I know not what to do with my fear...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-7182031034526667752012-08-23T22:06:28.628-04:002012-08-23T22:06:28.628-04:00It is logistically impossible to fly there, refuel...It is logistically impossible to fly there, refuel and get back. God only knows what the Persians have waiting for them. Too much talk about it also.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-84248984186790382522012-08-23T20:21:31.321-04:002012-08-23T20:21:31.321-04:00Anonymous raises a good point by questioning wheth...Anonymous raises a good point by questioning whether Iran's nuclear capabilities would be permanently destroyed.<br /><br />But just suppose Israel attacked conventionally, Iran responded massively, and then Israel, its back against the wall, nuked Iran.<br /><br />Wouldn't the rest of the Middle Eastern states conclude, "Those Israelis are playing MAD for real!"? That would lead to more than just a 'significant setback' for the surrounding regimes. With Israel a proven nuke-in-desperation-user, diplomacy at that point could reduce to Cuban-missle-crisis responses by Israel ever after that would be a game-stopper, no?<br /><br />Bill K.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-24662240979154357132012-08-23T16:02:32.803-04:002012-08-23T16:02:32.803-04:00This is a magnificent and brave and brilliantly in...This is a magnificent and brave and brilliantly incisive piece of writing by Daniel Greenfield. This is truth-telling of the highest order, when the stakes could not be higher. The following quote by Mr. Greenfield is worth a decade of opinion writing, and may live as a defining quote for what is happening and will happen in the Middle East, as the lame Western "allies" of Israel sit at their chessboards, meeting for tea in their "War rooms." Here is that quote:<br />"It has become fashionable among Western elites to view aggression as either a posture or madness. They have forgotten that sometimes violence isn't a move on an international chessboard or a prelude to a set of political steps. Sometimes it's as simple as one side wanting to kill the other and the other side not wanting to be killed."<br />Raymond Keenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10625444145867748278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-60536326416105004702012-08-23T13:59:50.034-04:002012-08-23T13:59:50.034-04:00It is interesting to wonder what all the antisemit...It is interesting to wonder what all the antisemites would say had the attack on Iraq's reactor failed and Saddamn built The Bomb. No Desert Storm, the end of Kuwait, the destruction of Tehran with or without the NYT's gleefully cherished fantasy of a nuked Israel. no Arab Spring, a nuclear arms race across the region including Libya, Egypt and Saudi Arabia, nuclear and chemical terrorism and oil at $1000/bbl. And probably no iPhones for angry trust fund anarchists to tweet about how it's the Jews' fault.Empress Trudyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06073538968722986065noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-81215607994605084592012-08-23T13:18:15.008-04:002012-08-23T13:18:15.008-04:00Another home run Daniel.
Israel has no choice but...Another home run Daniel.<br /><br />Israel has no choice but too protect itself.<br />Even the weakest minds recognize that Iran will eventually strike.<br />Why wait for your enemy to become nearly invincible? <br />MAD is a winning strategy for Iran, while it was a logical deterrent to the US and Russia.<br /><br />This will end badly for many, let's hope Israel has some non-lethal surprises to negate the muslim threat from Iran. Mikenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-49879904479073145912012-08-23T10:24:38.581-04:002012-08-23T10:24:38.581-04:00It won't be over, but it would be a significan...It won't be over, but it would be a significant set-back.<br /><br />It is like the purpose of field artillary on the battlefield. The object is not kill as many combatants as possible, but to inflict enough harm and near-miss devastation to make them think twice about proceeding. <br /><br />A direct strike on an iranian nuclear reactor would slow Iran down. It would also have the workers and guardians of those operations approaching the rebuild phase with great trepidation.<br /><br />As Israel knocked-out Saddam's nuke facility, it was a major set-back to Iraq's overall program.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-69018502516200975342012-08-23T08:46:09.571-04:002012-08-23T08:46:09.571-04:00Let's say that Israel attacks Iran.
1) Would...Let's say that Israel attacks Iran. <br /><br />1) Would such and operation permanently destroy Iran's nuclear capabilities? Would such a move make Iranians think: "You know what? We'd better forget this 'going nuclear' thing once and for all."? <br /><br />2) And what's more important, with nuclear technology becoming cheaper, more widespread and more accessible over time (just like any other technology) it is just a matter of time until other Muslim, Israel-hating states in the greater Middle East start developing their own nuclear programs, whether they have civil or military purposes.<br /><br />Regarding 1) I wonder if Israel will be willing to strike Iran again and again in the future if the Iranians sttubornly refuse to give up their nuclear ambitions and regarding 2) I wonder if Israel will be willing to go on attacking every single inimical nation in the region (that is to say ALL OF THEM)every time one of them decides to go nuclear.<br /><br />I am making these points because much as I dislike the idea of Muslim-majority nations going nuclear, analysts who support an attack against Iran give the impression that once it is done, the nuclear threat against Israel will be over, as if History would stop unfolding after the Israeli jets land again on Israeli soil. <br /><br />If you stop to think about it you'll see that just like today's Iranian nuclear program is a much bigger threat to Israel than yesterday's Iraqi nuclear program, the spread of nuclear technology, the number of enemies Israel have in the region and the hate both Iranians and the others will be left with if Israel takes action now are very ominous indications of what lies ahead for this country.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-79170244424323541402012-08-23T08:45:27.426-04:002012-08-23T08:45:27.426-04:00Great Article; one nation is dealing with a clear ...Great Article; one nation is dealing with a clear and present danger, no complete destruction and the other is worried about free birth control, iphones, porn, the Kardashians, and the NFL. Satan has multiple methods! GOD Help us all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-36109366662312934582012-08-23T07:41:42.405-04:002012-08-23T07:41:42.405-04:00^^^
Why is that insane? - they are already here. T...^^^<br />Why is that insane? - they are already here. They arten't integrating. They aren't accepting mixed marriages among infidels. Every dopey girl I knew that married into Islam wound-up wearing the hijab.<br />They will vote with the liberal block... they don't belive in contraception or abortion among themselves - but hey low-birth rate and population reduction for infidels - that's alright by them.<br />I give the US another 20 years before we hear the call to prayer in every major city over and above the din of western ambience.<br /><br />The concept of invading the US by military force is antiquated and was merely a cold-war theory.<br /><br />The problem is westerners superimpose their own beiliefs and superstitions on everyone else.<br /><br />While Democrats think its great that we can readily access infanticide as some kind of "preventative medicine", the Islamist family is part of a growing dynastic succession (complete with multiple wives in other countries). Most American men of European descent believe multiple wives and droves of children is akin to having multiple restraints. Our women are our equals and sometime our superiors. To the islamist the wives are there to serve and for breeding.<br />Teddy Roosevelt believed that it was our duty to strengthen the nation with children. We've reversed that notion. Teddy was right. Insane liberals convinced us that there was a "population bomb" - that was supposed to explode a few years ago... and nothing happened other than the fact that we bought the fable -hook-line & sinker!<br />At the same time - our "new friends" from the middle east applauded our efforts and are escoting us to the finish line.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-57720242417002769592012-08-23T07:22:06.335-04:002012-08-23T07:22:06.335-04:00Anonymous: A unified Mideast – or rather a unified...Anonymous: A unified Mideast – or rather a unified Islam guided by the Muslim Brotherhood – has successfully invaded Europe, and is in the process of invading the U.S. with armies of "refugee" immigrants who resist assimilation because otherwise they'd lose their identities as Muslims doing Allah's bidding. And the invasion and conquest are at the invitation of leftist Western governments. Edward Clinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12160209827969614964noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-54617495221898704672012-08-23T05:34:30.633-04:002012-08-23T05:34:30.633-04:00" a unified Muslim Middle East would probably..." a unified Muslim Middle East would probably successfully invade the US"<br /><br />Are you insane? That's ridiculous.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-10027400800299506422012-08-23T02:39:54.000-04:002012-08-23T02:39:54.000-04:00Right on the money! Shalom....Yosef ben AvrahamRight on the money! Shalom....Yosef ben AvrahamAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-41630998193998098052012-08-23T00:39:15.598-04:002012-08-23T00:39:15.598-04:00Daniel strikes againDaniel strikes againDovber Schwartzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02844826216750275478noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-9526796043216272232012-08-23T00:24:37.418-04:002012-08-23T00:24:37.418-04:00There's a difference between our real interest...There's a difference between our real interests and what the elites think our interests are.Daniel Greenfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-56909225615085501282012-08-23T00:14:51.558-04:002012-08-23T00:14:51.558-04:00Do you really see it that way -- that the United S...Do you really see it that way -- that the United States' most serious interest in the Middle East is oil? it seems to me that our most serious interest there is preventing too much unification of anti-American forces, for our own survival's sake; not for fear of embargo, which would be unlikely since someone would sell us black-market petroleum anyway, but because a unified Muslim Middle East would probably successfully invade the US. <br />A very informative article, in any case. It gives a different perspective, that's for sure. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-41133826494739294662012-08-23T00:10:43.397-04:002012-08-23T00:10:43.397-04:00Daniel, you're a real gem in the journalistic ...Daniel, you're a real gem in the journalistic desert.<br />Tomnoreply@blogger.com