tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post3006492624461407367..comments2024-03-18T19:14:18.804-04:00Comments on Daniel Greenfield / Sultan Knish Articles at DanielGreenfield.org : End of the WorldDaniel Greenfieldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-40211547157502939332012-11-13T16:56:21.670-05:002012-11-13T16:56:21.670-05:00I just feel that something is still in the works b...I just feel that something is still in the works behind all the hype. I look at the different predictions as being related and even if its a money making opportunity for the scam artists, i feel that the topic is still something to be concerned with to an extent. How can we just expect our little pebble called earth in the middle of an enormous galaxy just exist forever? maybe im just crazyJoelhttp://bombshelterbuilders.com/bomb-sheltersnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-2170958956719651482012-11-07T22:43:16.236-05:002012-11-07T22:43:16.236-05:00Joel I'm really not sure how you there from my...Joel I'm really not sure how you there from my articleDaniel Greenfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-57837399052030996302012-11-07T20:55:05.045-05:002012-11-07T20:55:05.045-05:00Very disturbing information and images now floatin...Very disturbing information and images now floating through my mind. I guess we have no way to survive in this life!Joelhttp://www.bombshelterbuilders.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-59873908196100578062011-05-28T18:54:02.098-04:002011-05-28T18:54:02.098-04:00See also:
http://wakepedia.blogspot.com/2008/03/i...See also:<br /><br />http://wakepedia.blogspot.com/2008/03/i-was-wondering-when-id-hear-about-or.html<br /><br />For the cleansing of Enviro-Sin!Wakefield Tolberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07214688786380814406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-50551631639006680372011-05-28T18:41:20.773-04:002011-05-28T18:41:20.773-04:00I usually add a lot more, but I'll keep this o...I usually add a lot more, but I'll keep this one short: Bravo.<br /><br />Yes, many have honed in on the "environmentalist" movement's religiously-based claims, all under the radar of critique from most of the MSM, and with the intaglio design of "science" and "rationality" as the backing, all the while mocking the rubes who believe in the old-timey stuff like God. Ironic, really. I think it was Richard Sanford who wrote an article years ago talking about the ironic real "toxicity" of the Green Faith that mocks modern capitalism as sinful and evil, and shows the real dangers to modern society of such thinking and (what's really at stake in the end) the totalitarian impulse to tell people how to flush the jon and screw in light bulbs. Moreover, the movement is at core ideological, not scientific, and seeks like all ideologies and faiths a large measure of control over all of society. It is a notion that subsumes all of culture, and none are to escape except the elite practitioners. It even has a way to pay penance for sins in the form of Carbon Offsets, much like the Church's old indulgences to sin at the expense of mere token money. Thus for example a rich, hip, liberal couple can jet to Europe in high style and be bereft of Carbon Guilt by buying an offset--in many cases a program paid with said money that tells Third World kids to read a pamphlet on how to pump water by hand than by the more modern but carbon demon method of diesel engines, et al. It's all such rot and slop and slush. Hope the world wakes up to it.Wakefield Tolberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07214688786380814406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-71163580172002922742011-05-22T21:54:36.973-04:002011-05-22T21:54:36.973-04:00I was commenting on this thread in general not que...I was commenting on this thread in general not questioning anyone in particular, so I don't understand your hostility towards me and my comments.<br /><br />******<br /><br />I do know people who consider environmentalism a nature religion. Nature is their god. <br /><br />A god can be just about anything someone decides it to be--higher power, person, belief system. Delusional or not even a relatively new religion such as Wicca (various forms of Wicca including fairy Wicca) are regarded as a religion.<br /><br />Their magick (yes with a k used in the word) can be considered a form of prayer. In fact I know Wiccans who believe this.<br /><br />I still believe in this day and age anything can be considered a religion. Let's not forget that there are kooks that regard Obama as a messiah.<br /><br />I don't wish to argue, certainly not point for point. But I do believe extreme environmentalists will eventually seek religious status and all of the benefits and protection that comes along with it.<br /><br />Given enough pressure the EEOC could remove the god clause. Same too with environmentalists.<br /><br />Same too with atheists.Keli Atahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05089132216830000713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-52326476763020911272011-05-22T16:22:36.450-04:002011-05-22T16:22:36.450-04:00Keli Ata: Atheism is not a religion. An atheist ma...Keli Ata: Atheism is not a religion. An atheist may hold to one of any number of philosophies, such as Objectivism (as do I), but our a-theism simply means that we do not believe in the imaginary supernatural beings known as "gods". (If the AA is trying to get the EEOC to designate atheism a religion, they needs to get their heads out of their rears and start behaving like grown-ups again.) The only reason for theists to designate a-theism as a "religion" is to taunt. Many theists are made uncomfortable by the sight of so many atheists walking around enjoying thier lives, un-struck by the holy lightning bolt of some enraged god or another. <br /><br />Having spent over 15 years investigating all kinds of cults (back in the 1980s-90s) it is preaching to the choir to point out to me that any sort of gonzo supernaturalist fantasy with a ranting leader and a set of esoteric rules and regulations can get itself designated a "religion". However, I fail to see how this can be applied to extreme environmentalism unless it is practiced by delusionary fools who actually worship the goddess Gaia (as well as wood nymphs, satyrs, Diana the Huntress, and any other nonsense that floats their boat). It is true that environmentalists wave the flag of "science", but then so do Christian "Scientists" who don't want you to give your 6-year-old lifesaving medication because god will be angry at them for not praying instead, and fundamentalist "scientists" who need to believe that humans and dinosaurs existed simultaneously lest they be barred from the blis off heaven and cast into pain, fire and darkness by our Loving Heavenly Father. We've got degrees and shades of idiocy here. <br /><br />I see extreme environmentalists as closer in attitude to die-hard supporters of Barry Soetoro Barack Hussein Obama, the sort who will not tolerate any criticism of their charismatic leader. (I just ordered the best anti-Obama bumper sticker I've yet seen: It simply reads ZOMBIES with the "O" an Obama symbol.) A religion, whatever its specific makeup, should have an element of "otherworldliness" and transcendentalism to it; a concept of moving on from what they consider this "plain of sorrows" to heaven, nirvana (the state, not the band), one-ness with the universe, whatever. "Green" cultists are merely fantasizers yearning after perfect earthly realm of green grass and trees and polar bears (quick-dyed for St. Patty's Day, perhaps?) in which they will hold the authority to mete out punishment to "unbelievers". <br /><br />British writer Terry Pratchet has had a great deal of fun with variations on the theme of gods large and small (i.e., "Anoia", goddess of things that stick in kitchen drawers) as well a dingy belief systems of all kinds. I heartily recommend his "Discworld" book series to anyone seeking some relief from the insanity we encounter in the media every day. Pratchet's insanity is much more fun.revereridesagainnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-63232125403281619302011-05-22T12:55:19.131-04:002011-05-22T12:55:19.131-04:00Oh, and EEOC clause about sincerely held beliefs i...Oh, and EEOC clause about sincerely held beliefs involving G-d can define god in very loose terms. I'd imagine an Environmentalist describing their god as a higher power or mother nature. Or who knows. They might consider a person as a god or something along those lines.<br /><br />Oprah Winfrey once described Al Gore as the Noah of our day.Keli Atahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05089132216830000713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-6863247174322177612011-05-22T12:18:31.930-04:002011-05-22T12:18:31.930-04:00Side note: Even though Atheism is considered a rel...Side note: Even though Atheism is considered a religion by the EEOC, the American Atheist made some very alarming demands that the EEOC expand its definition<br /><br />http://www.holysmoke.org/sdhok/aa007.htmKeli Atahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05089132216830000713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-1868901276926692522011-05-22T12:08:46.713-04:002011-05-22T12:08:46.713-04:00Take away the suit, put Al Gore on a NYC subway ta...Take away the suit, put Al Gore on a NYC subway talking about the end of the world he'd most likely be dismissed or hospitalized as mentally ill.<br /><br />As for Environmentalism being a religion you hit the nail on the head once again. It's disturbing that even a civil rights organization describes religion as any sincerely held belief. religion and the conditions considered religious harassed.<br /><br />Environmentalism (just as Atheism) would/are considered a religion. It's easy to see why colleges would revoke the tenures of professors--religious harassment. University politics are of course a major factor but I can imgine prof speaking out against Environmentalizm could e be fired for religious harrassment. <br />EEOC:<br /><br />1. Religion Title VII defines “religion” to include “all aspects of religious observance and practice as well as belief19] <br /><br />Religion includes not only traditional, organized religions such as Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Hinduism, and Buddhism, but also religious beliefs that are new, uncommon, not part of a formal church or sect, only subscribed to by a small number of people, or that seem illogical or unreasonable to others.[20] <br /><br />Further, a person’s religious beliefs “need not be confined in either source or content to traditional or parochial concepts of religion.”[21] A belief is “religious” for Title VII purposes if it is “‘religious’ in the person’s own scheme of things,”[22] i.e., it is “a sincere and meaningful belief that occupies in the life of its possessor a place parallel to that filled by … God.”[23] An employee’s belief or practice can be “religious” under Title VII even if the employee is affiliated with a religious group that does not espouse or recognize that individual’s belief or practice, or if few – or no – other people adhere to it.[24]<br /><br />Religious beliefs include theistic beliefs as well as non-theistic “moral or ethical beliefs as to what is right and wrong which are sincerely held with the strength of traditional religious views.”[25] Although courts generally resolve doubts about particular beliefs in favor of finding that they are religious,[26] beliefs are not protected merely because they are strongly held. Rather, religion typically concerns “ultimate ideas” about “life, purpose, and death.”[27] Social, political, or economic philosophies, as well as mere personal preferences, are not “religious” beliefs protected by Title VII.[28]"<br /><br />Isn't that downright scary? Key to their definition is that it is a sincerely held belief.<br /><br />The EEOC and its concepts on religion are worth reading:<br /><br />http://www.eeoc.gov/policy/docs/religion.html#_Toc203359487<br /><br />Daniel, you shoud write an article on this one. Your analysis would be a great read.Keli Atahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05089132216830000713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-62842942815710061582011-05-22T11:26:11.936-04:002011-05-22T11:26:11.936-04:00Elizabeth, yes it's everywhere now.
Jesterhea...Elizabeth, yes it's everywhere now.<br /><br />Jesterhead, they'll get around to it.<br /><br />HermitLion, that's a good idea. I should have done that.<br /><br />Ashan, thanks, I'll keep that in mind.Daniel Greenfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-4711394134662022742011-05-22T07:12:21.232-04:002011-05-22T07:12:21.232-04:00Politics is a religion I think.The faith and fervo...Politics is a religion I think.The faith and fervor of the followers of political parties often seems idolatrous.<br />Environmentalism is a sect within and has it's own devotees.<br />All of it bad.Chana @ Lemon Lime Moonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11656854855385193867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-19340602550156744672011-05-22T05:56:49.110-04:002011-05-22T05:56:49.110-04:00In religion as in most other matters, I try to fol...In religion as in most other matters, I try to follow Itzhak Rabin's "live and let live" philosophy.<br /><br />Camping is a sincere and harmless fundamentalist preacher, but one thing in his belief system bothers me. His eschatological scheme includes the idea that Jerusalem will be destroyed because we Jews continue to reject JC. He isn't happy about the destruction, but, you know, bad things sometimes happen to good people. It's not a central part of his scheme, nor does he emphasise it, but it's there.<br /><br />Would I be happy if Obama rejected Jeremiah Wright's liberation theology and accepted Camping-ism instead? Not sure.City Slickernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-61994187196203494062011-05-22T04:58:58.006-04:002011-05-22T04:58:58.006-04:00Even though most of what you state makes perfect s...Even though most of what you state makes perfect sense not all green talk is complete nonsense as was proven by abolishing the use of CFK's that provably had an effect on the thickness of the Ozone layer. Moreover it should be clear that if we as humans continue to breed and feed (consume) in ever increasing numbers we shall eventually bring an end to the world if only the world with us as the dominant species. Nothing wrong with that, the system shall or shall not create an inheritor. At that point no longer our concern.mindRiderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12160934421830568737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-51232690832347706932011-05-22T03:48:45.802-04:002011-05-22T03:48:45.802-04:00Daniel, once again you have written a clear, cogen...Daniel, once again you have written a clear, cogent appraisal of yet another folly of our time. You would do well to gather your best essays (and they are many) into a book. If you ever decide to do so, I would be honored to edit it for you.Ashanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08447755257306604807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-54762255928187293602011-05-22T03:32:26.951-04:002011-05-22T03:32:26.951-04:00Sultan,
I believe some links to your earlier post...Sultan,<br /><br />I believe some links to your earlier posts on the matter could be useful. Since I've read them already, the words here made perfect sense, but for someone who isn't sufficiently unfamiliar with the subject (and there are many, thanks to the propaganda machine), this article might seem like an unsubstantiated rant.<br /><br />As someone who is still furious about being lied to by the global warming 'pushers', I think it is prudent to help as many as possible see the truth.HermitLionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01955642756387705257noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-63956402287025712242011-05-22T00:45:09.097-04:002011-05-22T00:45:09.097-04:00It makes you wonder why the Gaians haven't yet...It makes you wonder why the Gaians haven't yet dipicted the titan Prometheus as a Devil-like figure for giving Fire to Humanity or as the Gaians would interpret the myth, the spirit of innovation itself.Jesterhead45https://www.blogger.com/profile/06569998708665000668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-10533357395120720302011-05-21T23:47:38.508-04:002011-05-21T23:47:38.508-04:00My daughter just graduated from college today and ...My daughter just graduated from college today and I waited (not very long!) to see how long it took the key note speaker to infuse global warming into the message of 'it's your responsability' to make this a better world followed with "The plastic bottle you drink water from and the car you choose to drive - I wished I'd brought a pea shooter.Elizabethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16271711262148270290noreply@blogger.com