tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post2944997288777031203..comments2024-03-29T00:24:13.128-04:00Comments on Daniel Greenfield / Sultan Knish Articles at DanielGreenfield.org : It's About the Jihad, StupidDaniel Greenfieldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-43990000220882273612010-11-16T07:41:55.143-05:002010-11-16T07:41:55.143-05:00Worried about car bombs? with more socialism no on...Worried about car bombs? with more socialism no one will be able to afford a car anymore.<br /><br />That line was begging to be written :)HermitLionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01955642756387705257noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-81944169145396771052010-10-12T22:32:37.928-04:002010-10-12T22:32:37.928-04:00Here are a couple of articles that begin to look a...Here are a couple of articles that begin to look at what can be done.<br /><br /><br />http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2008/05/counterjihad-vienna-2008.html<br /><br />http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/006854.html<br />http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2006/10/recommendations-for-west.html<br /><br />http://www.vdare.com/Sailer/060813_disconnect.htm<br />http://townhall.com/columnists/DianaWest/2006/07/14/connecting_the_dots_on_islamAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-16340882094205892492010-10-12T18:34:58.441-04:002010-10-12T18:34:58.441-04:00Miriam,
I agree completely, something has to be d...Miriam,<br /><br />I agree completely, something has to be done and debate is a leisurely activity. Taking the medical analogy further, part of the problem is that not everybody believes that the patient is sick at all and that those worrying about the patient are the ones needing treatment.<br /><br />The Europeans frequently take the point of view that this is similar to the confrontation with Communism and Nazism. The problem there is that Islam has been around a lot longer than either Communism or Nazism. Europe has an old relationship with Islam and it is certainly a symptom of the problem that the Europeans can't take this history as evidence of the hazard of trusting Muslim communities to grow to dominance anywhere in Europe. But now it is obvious that this is no longer just a European problem and not just a problem for the US either. It is a global problem and the unwillingness of too many countries to come to terms with the foundations of the problem is also global. Before Islam can be successfully confronted, the reason for this must be determined.<br /><br />Confronting Islam in the US must start with spreading the word about the truth of what Islam represents and this is easy enough by way of Muslim scripture. The Koran is the most compelling evidence of the threat of Islam. While we must respect the freedom of religion, we are not legally required to ignore such hard evidence of a potential threat of even a religious organization. We are constantly policing against cults that draw people in and rob them and drive them to suicide. Just recently we saw a group of immigrants who were off to the desert to commit suicide. We can legally restrict the movements of such religious organizations and have done so.Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13265154565691102783noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-55194133866286214822010-10-12T17:04:53.246-04:002010-10-12T17:04:53.246-04:00Keli Ata- I know it is, you're exactly right w...Keli Ata- I know it is, you're exactly right we saw it at Ramadon, hopefully you know what I meant.<br /><br />noboat1noboat1http://cusewire.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-67923843701813522672010-10-12T16:56:15.622-04:002010-10-12T16:56:15.622-04:00Paul,
We can argue back and forth about specific ...Paul,<br /><br />We can argue back and forth about specific policy proposals, but at some point we need to decide on a broad based approach and put it into action. <br /><br />As an analogy: Doctors can and do make mistakes when trying to figure out how to treat a gravely ill patient. Medicine is not an exact science - alot of what we learn is through trial and error.<br /><br />However, everyone would agree that the worst approach by far would be to stand by and let a sick person die, because doctors wanted to stand on the side and debate endlessly over specific points, while, in fact, doing nothing. <br /><br />So, your critiques are taken respectfully, however, the larger point is - are we taking a coordinated policy approach to this critical issue (perhaps learning as we go along which approach works best), and if not - why?<br /><br />.Mimihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11731974330508177541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-85043086465409364152010-10-12T13:03:38.005-04:002010-10-12T13:03:38.005-04:00Here are some interesting ideas of what to do abou...Here are some interesting ideas of what to do about Islam in the west<br /><br />http://archive.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=12878Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-25056034815991033642010-10-12T00:35:49.611-04:002010-10-12T00:35:49.611-04:00Thank you so much for this article! The point abou...Thank you so much for this article! The point about the arrogance of liberals constantly telling us they know what Islam teaches better than Muslims do was one I hadn't thought of before, at least not in this way. Excellent!<br /><br /><br />I will be passing this along.Monoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-57599864056720919902010-10-11T23:53:53.079-04:002010-10-11T23:53:53.079-04:00Noboat1--the Islamic flag might not be flying over...Noboat1--the Islamic flag might not be flying over the White House but Islam is being practiced right in the Oval Office, sadly.<br /><br />OT comment about the NYC bomber--Jihadist might have tried that in Israel but Israelis are far more terrorism conscious than Americans. I've read many Israeli blogs and they definitely are more alert and aware.<br /><br />Even after 9/11 Americans are lax.<br /><br />I have no idea why more people aren't enrolling in CERT courses.Keli Atahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05089132216830000713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-19356021255130754672010-10-11T18:35:04.100-04:002010-10-11T18:35:04.100-04:00Miriam,
I agree with all your ideas except,
7) S...Miriam,<br /><br />I agree with all your ideas except,<br /><br />7) Stop coddling fake moderates (Faisal Rauf, Tarik Ramadan, etc) and start supporting real moderates (Nonie Darwish, Zudhi Jasser, etc). Protect the moderates, so that more feel safe enough to speak out.<br /><br />8) Promote awareness of 'stealth jihad' among those policy makers and military leaders, so that they see beyond al-Qaeda to other types of threats that are taking place under our noses and here in the West.<br /><br />9) Start asking for reciprocity when Muslim institutions are built in the West with foreign funding - a mosque here, a church/interfaith NGO/human rights organization there.<br /><br />Supporting "moderate" Muslims is a futile move. Such a move does nothing to speak to the broader Muslim population in Muslim countries. It does no good to preach to Muslims about their own religion. This only plays into the hands of Muslims who are more dedicated students of their own religion. The problem with Islam is not the suppression of "moderates" it is the Koran itself. Without the Koran, there is no Islam, and the Koran is the source of the violence. All Muslims are "stealth" Muslims, it is a vain hope to depend on "moderate" Muslims to protect us from the more passionate ones.<br /><br />In the same spirit, it makes no sense to insist on reciprocity for mosques built in the US. Our seperation of church and state makes it legally impossible to do such a thing, else we could just as easily confront many other religions, not just Islam.Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13265154565691102783noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-14619218715766796312010-10-11T14:48:15.607-04:002010-10-11T14:48:15.607-04:00all very good points and doableall very good points and doableDaniel Greenfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-51714654956140057482010-10-11T14:10:57.519-04:002010-10-11T14:10:57.519-04:00.
11) Don't give 'religious visas' to ....<br />11) Don't give 'religious visas' to those who preach radicalism and intolerance, or anti-democratic statements. Flag and track radicals already here in the U.S., both citizens (like the ft Hood shooter and Faisal Shahzad) and non-citizens.<br />.Mimihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11731974330508177541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-10317371718352889602010-10-11T13:30:03.728-04:002010-10-11T13:30:03.728-04:00Anonymous said...
Okay it is about Jihad, so what ...Anonymous said...<br />Okay it is about Jihad, so what should the West and Israel do?<br /><br />1) Scrupulously uphold existing laws and parameters in all public places and government institutions. Absolutely NO special dispensations for Sharia law.<br /><br />2) Enact laws that allow for protection against and prosecution of those who threaten and intimidate people because they 'insulted Islam'. There are laws like this for other threats (abortion clinics got a law passed to prosecute those that threaten them - even verbally). <br /><br />3) This one is harder because it involves people and institutions in general: Start excercising free speech - put up generic pictures of Mohammed and refuse to take them down. Critique the religion in public, like other religions are critiqued. <br /><br />4) Enforce law and order in areas where Sharia has taken hold, and ensure that it does not spread. This means cracking down on domestic violence, honor killings, forced marriages, FGM of girls, military training compounds of ex-felons, etc. <br /><br />5) Stop the support of Muslim Brotherhood fronts like CAIR, ISNA, MSA, etc.<br /><br />6) Expose the Saudi/Wahabi funding of Mosques and University departments. Expose the hate literature used in teaching at Islamic children's schools in the West.<br /><br />7) Stop coddling fake moderates (Faisal Rauf, Tarik Ramadan, etc) and start supporting real moderates (Nonie Darwish, Zudhi Jasser, etc). Protect the moderates, so that more feel safe enough to speak out.<br /><br />8) Promote awareness of 'stealth jihad' among those policy makers and military leaders, so that they see beyond al-Qaeda to other types of threats that are taking place under our noses and here in the West.<br /><br />9) Start asking for reciprocity when Muslim institutions are built in the West with foreign funding - a mosque here, a church/interfaith NGO/human rights organization there.<br /><br />10) Start passing congressional resolutions that stop the US Gov't from dealing with foreign entities that bar women, bar those who have visited Israel, bar those who aren't Muslim, etc.<br /><br />Well, there's a start. I'm sure I'll think of more as soon as I press 'submit'. <br /><br />.Mimihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11731974330508177541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-69543357183637587432010-10-11T13:07:03.971-04:002010-10-11T13:07:03.971-04:00see final paragraph...
"The media and the po...see final paragraph...<br /><br />"The media and the politicians can pretend that Faisal is some sort of aberration, but he's not. He was only a young Muslim man who wanted to practice his religion and get to heaven. The problem is that the Koran proclaims that to get to heaven, he has to step over the bodies of infidels. And we are a country of infidels. Which means that perhaps it's time we consider that it may not be in our interest to have people who practice this religion inside our borders"Daniel Greenfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-51210803872065770682010-10-11T12:44:57.062-04:002010-10-11T12:44:57.062-04:00Okay it is about Jihad, so what should the West an...Okay it is about Jihad, so what should the West and Israel do?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-31459271537578202352010-10-11T12:28:19.419-04:002010-10-11T12:28:19.419-04:00It's all about sharia!
Download and read, &qu...It's all about sharia!<br /><br />Download and read, "The Team B II Report, Shariah: The Threat to America"<br /><br />http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/p18523.xmlMarcnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-73699297112002382352010-10-11T11:42:42.106-04:002010-10-11T11:42:42.106-04:00well defying political correctness tends to be a p...well defying political correctness tends to be a political riskDaniel Greenfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-43313916113309506012010-10-11T08:06:52.724-04:002010-10-11T08:06:52.724-04:00I read on Fox news this morning where Carl Paladin...I read on Fox news this morning where Carl Paladino made "anti-gay" remarks during his speech to some orthodox Jewish leaders. His remarks were labeled inappropriate in light of the recent attacks on a gay man and a gay teen. His remarks were considered out of the mainstream. He said that he didn't believe that children should be brainwashed into thinking that homosexuality is a valid lifestyle choice. So to state that the gay lifestyle is wrong leads to violent attacks, right? Paladino also said he doesn't advocate attacking gays.<br /><br />Bear with me I am going to make a point. You can probably see where I'm going with this.<br /><br />A few years ago there was a bombing at an abortion clinic in Alabama. I happened to be living in Alabama at the time and so it was huge news. The news media fell all over themselves trying to establish a link between pro-life "rhetoric" and violence against abortion doctors and clinic bombings. The nurse who was severely injured made a statement to that affect and said that anti abortion bigotry would not stop her from continuing her important work.<br /><br />But, whenever it comes to violence perpetrated by Islamists that is an entirely different story. We're supposed to believe that the violent rhetoric spouted by these maniacs is not a contributing factor in the attacks they carry out. This peaceful religion has been hijacked by people who don't understand how benign the Koran really is.<br /><br />You remember the story about the guy in Colorado who displayed his artwork with Jesus in a compromising position with another man? A woman attempted to destroy the display. The artist then went on record saying that Jesus, Muhammad, Buddha and a few others I can't remember, all preached peace and tolerance. So this woman who destroyed his artwork (who was a Christian by the way) wasn't following these great leaders' teachings. Muhammad? taught peace? Yeah, right. All of a sudden Christians are dangerous and violent because of this one act of vandalism. I, for one think she should be prosecuted for what she did.<br /><br />Sorry to be so lengthy. For the record I agree with Carl Paladino but I don't know much more about him. I do think he's brave to take the stand he did and I hope he gets elected.<br /><br />Thanks <br /><br />DebraAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-90821488686708427222010-10-11T07:52:48.311-04:002010-10-11T07:52:48.311-04:00Nothing so refreshing as hearing a spade get calle...Nothing so refreshing as hearing a spade get called a spade.eaglenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-43966526397308399852010-10-11T04:43:20.563-04:002010-10-11T04:43:20.563-04:00The 20/20 program "Should We Fear Isalm"...The 20/20 program "Should We Fear Isalm" sickened me to watch, Diane Sawyer defending these people even after she showed a clip of some immam in London stating that they would not stop until the Islamic flag was flying over the White House. How much clearer does it have to be? As far as I'm concerned we are at war with Islam and we definitely need to consider who's inside our borders.noboat1http://cusewire.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-39603234595790866112010-10-11T00:25:26.451-04:002010-10-11T00:25:26.451-04:00Tell it like it is once again. And the Sultan is ...Tell it like it is once again. And the Sultan is certainly bending to explain that " ... much of the right ... " along with the left present a completely distorted view of Islam. Yes, the "left" and the "right" have many things in common. It is all too frequently the best strategy to take them both on at the same time.Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13265154565691102783noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-49282856654581797972010-10-10T23:24:44.280-04:002010-10-10T23:24:44.280-04:00thank you fox, the new york times is on its way ou...thank you fox, the new york times is on its way out, we're moving beyond the old media, to a new frontier of informationDaniel Greenfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-35315337840799576392010-10-10T23:11:12.223-04:002010-10-10T23:11:12.223-04:00Another fine piece of writing by the Sultan. If On...Another fine piece of writing by the Sultan. If Only the New York times gave you a weekly column to post your thoughts. But we know thats not going to happen. The Times and others like them don't want the real truth about Islam to be provided to the American Public. I'm glad I found your blog. Enjoy reading it when I can. <br /><br />ThanksFoxmuldar Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16557890896261901343noreply@blogger.com