tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post1493250822146945902..comments2024-03-18T19:14:18.804-04:00Comments on Daniel Greenfield / Sultan Knish Articles at DanielGreenfield.org : The Rationing SocietyDaniel Greenfieldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comBlogger23125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-88892139595937206042015-02-04T23:48:25.436-05:002015-02-04T23:48:25.436-05:00Every civilization on the planet throughout known ...Every civilization on the planet throughout known history has suffered from what I call a process of "Socio-Economic Entropy". Systems of government are self-perpetuating and will grow until their feed lines fail and the entire system collapses. Because such systems have cleverly learned to control the thoughts of the offspring (public indoctrination), the juggernaut of this process cannot be stopped or slowed by much. It will continue until the source of its power is depleted. From the ashes, if there are survivors, will rise another primitive society that will gradually industrialize. Then the same hue and cry about 'fairness' will rear its ugly head somewhere. It's a vicious cycle.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-9531404209045464782014-10-09T07:12:04.958-04:002014-10-09T07:12:04.958-04:00I agree. I also come from a similar background and...I agree. I also come from a similar background and have seen first hand the effects of a rationing society. What is ironic is that children of such societies are taught to hate capitalists and the free market system, while some of those capitalists are in collusion with the government, doing the very rationing that defines the society. This is perhaps intentional to keep the population "asleep". Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08198505289436484986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-31123364987224500802014-09-30T11:55:20.234-04:002014-09-30T11:55:20.234-04:00Well-written and well-thought, as always. If I ma...Well-written and well-thought, as always. If I may add my two cent: Scarcity of resources is fact of life, and most economic models, logistical systems, project management methodologies and resource allocation algorithms are based on it. The pertinent question is: How will scarce resources be rationed? If they are not rationed by the capitalistic mechanism of price (which is a way to assess how much a certain person values a certain good) then they have to be rationed by time, that is, everyone has to wait in line to consume the good, both the people who value the good highly, and those who do not value it very much. Regardless, history has shown that socialism and communism have failed miserably. Today's capitalism in Western nations has been tempered by a century of worker rights activism, and incorporates a considerable amount of welfare benefits, especially for privileged groups (e.g., affirmative action for African-Americans).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-66192208092239750572014-09-25T22:40:17.108-04:002014-09-25T22:40:17.108-04:00Maybe you can contribute some posts?Maybe you can contribute some posts?Robert What?https://www.blogger.com/profile/03863449539859132763noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-85341152195247277002014-09-22T22:00:14.582-04:002014-09-22T22:00:14.582-04:00Not criticism. Just a question. That essay was ver...Not criticism. Just a question. That essay was very provocative the first time I read it and for that reason, I remembered it.Ex-Dissidenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03837109472357860889noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-9699701168776827062014-09-22T19:28:43.347-04:002014-09-22T19:28:43.347-04:00Your clarity is inpecable, this essay should be re...Your clarity is inpecable, this essay should be required reading for every economics class. Things never change with the left, repackaging is all they are capable of.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-44109831432047584582014-09-22T14:39:03.994-04:002014-09-22T14:39:03.994-04:00A rationing society often tries to give the ration...A rationing society often tries to give the rationers and their pals more than their share of the goodies, while cheating the more productive members.RAMnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-4409565096711666592014-09-22T09:34:49.185-04:002014-09-22T09:34:49.185-04:00Among the commodities being rationed is the most b...Among the commodities being rationed is the most basic of all.... brains. Look at the current products of our educational system and ask what has happened to our national I.Q.? Was this decrease in mental ability the result of evolution or was it planned?Jerryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00988126349746293539noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-49543295717541282392014-09-22T06:48:20.904-04:002014-09-22T06:48:20.904-04:00@Gylippus
There is an excellent flowchart and vide...@Gylippus<br />There is an excellent flowchart and video available at http://agendadocumentary.com<br />I highly recommend getting a copy. meemahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09104303592278897991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-15766450776258650422014-09-22T06:20:27.305-04:002014-09-22T06:20:27.305-04:00"A socialist monopoly however is insurmountab..."A socialist monopoly however is insurmountable because it carries with it the full weight of the authorities and the ideology that is inculcated into every man, woman and child in the country." In a capitalist society, force is banned from human relationships, including trade. This is why monopolies in a capitalist society can be overcome. Innovators have a chance to rise and prosper. In a socialist, rationing society, force is not banned and is the primary arbiter and determining factor. Innovators are discouraged by the threat of force or directly by force. The force can take the form of literal policing with clubs and guns, or by punishing taxes and by draconian regulations. Edward Clinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12160209827969614964noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-64405521350927270772014-09-21T23:57:18.772-04:002014-09-21T23:57:18.772-04:00To Ex-Dissident:
You might want to 'ration...To Ex-Dissident:<br /><br />You might want to 'ration' your criticism.<br /><br />In 2012 I hadn't read Mr. Greenfield so I wasn't privy to his insightful work. I'm sure this holds true for an ever increasing number of readers, and will continue to be true as Daniel's readership and relevance grow.<br /><br />Also, while this article was written with acumen and foresight it can nonetheless be proffered that it is even more relevant two years later due to the exponential "change" our Rationer in Chief has incurred on America.<br /><br />In short, the truth always bears repeating.<br /><br />Alphamailnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-5125613220843773262014-09-21T20:06:06.926-04:002014-09-21T20:06:06.926-04:00Excellent synthesis. Good posts from the past des...Excellent synthesis. Good posts from the past deserve a second reading. <br /><br />Andy TexanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-4293803481483884442014-09-21T17:49:59.822-04:002014-09-21T17:49:59.822-04:00As always Daniel, a superb summation of our curren...As always Daniel, a superb summation of our current predicament. For my own part, it was only in 2004 that I really became aware of the coordinated messaging between the Democratic Party and the mainstream media. I realized an effort to control the population was underway and started digging into the matter. It is difficult for one with only a limited understanding of politics and economics to tease fact from theory. Yet I have arrived at a similar conclusion, the large financial interests have essentially bought out the two party apparatuses, the key political institutions, countless politicians the media, academia, the bureaucracy and have even subverted many core cultural institutions in order to impose a kind of soft-totalitarian control on the population. <br /><br />They appear to have recruited a range of “social engineers” of various stripes who use our computer networks and usage metrics to monitor us, and increasing regulation to fence us in. They seem to be motivated by a range of impulses ranging from the simple lust for privilege and power, to darker impulses like eugenics, de-industrialization, population control and even genocide. Furthermore, their scheme may not be totally monolithic, it does appear to be broad-based, highly coordinated, systematic and to extend beyond US borders, including in all likelyhood, members of the European power elite and cliques within the U.N.<br /><br />My question to you is have you done a specific analysis of their decision making structure? Do you know who the key players are and how they coordinate and implement their plans? |Would it be possible to develop an organization flowchart or are they too diffused and uncoordinated? Is it really just a bunch of corporatists piling on to an opportunity that was already in place due to leftist activism of the last 50 years, or is there something more tangible and deliberate to all of this? For me this remains the key and elusive question and maybe you can shed some light or point me in the right direction?Gylippusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-65856187512507710872014-09-21T17:19:11.273-04:002014-09-21T17:19:11.273-04:00"Life's a banquet, and most poor suckers ..."Life's a banquet, and most poor suckers are starving to death."<br />Auntie Mame<br /><br />Regardless of the collective mindset in most societies, there are doers and users, neither group is ever really satisfied.<br />Fairness in services like medical care, will be doled out by those who don't give a fig about 'care' or 'fair', until they need it themselves.<br />The more pertinent discussion might be about how whatever is left of the middle class can save themselves.<br /><br />sophie<br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-19934909963227330482014-09-21T16:37:20.092-04:002014-09-21T16:37:20.092-04:00Your analysis is always excellent, but this post o...Your analysis is always excellent, but this post outshines any in my recent memory. This is really good thought Dan. Phil McKannnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-29907522157606437712014-09-21T11:19:19.763-04:002014-09-21T11:19:19.763-04:00America didn't become a rationing society over...America didn't become a rationing society overnight. There was always a big push for the Middle Class to go to college. That was so there would be a large group going into the "helping' professions. It was always acknowledged that only a few could be engineers and physicians. It takes talent for that and not everyone is emotionally suited for it. Besides without a productive base those professions are meaningless.<br /><br />What was never mentioned was that the real Middle Class was being shrunk. You couldn't ask the question what about me? That was considered wrong. You had college. You had papers to write and you were spoiled. Ask any leftist and a middle class white kid was spoiled. Now every minority in college gets to fight against microaggressions and ask what is in it for them. They don't ask how to be part of a producing America because they have decided they get the rationing in their favor. It is an amazingly bad system and we have the teacher's unions to thank for its implementation. I doubt the teachers actually thought of it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-7140301422144032912014-09-21T11:14:31.338-04:002014-09-21T11:14:31.338-04:00God this is a good post. "Behavioral goals&qu...God this is a good post. "Behavioral goals" who would have thought of that phrase. That's it.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11469347980912536638noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-40149046749798786432014-09-21T10:59:10.009-04:002014-09-21T10:59:10.009-04:00this basic difference in the two kinds of societie...this basic difference in the two kinds of societies needs to be preached and taught everywhere.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11469347980912536638noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-18724734417615028502014-09-21T10:32:25.182-04:002014-09-21T10:32:25.182-04:00The Far Eastern societies only recently released o...The Far Eastern societies only recently released of being largely rationing societies are finding themselves transforming into production societies even though for an important part dependent on former production societies transforming into rationing societies. The world shall stay in swing from one extreme to the other, we in the west where the lucky ones for a few hundred years and now it's the East's term. mindRiderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12160934421830568737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-56774592742021275682014-09-21T07:17:59.469-04:002014-09-21T07:17:59.469-04:00This is odd, you posted this before in 2012, title...This is odd, you posted this before in 2012, titled as starving amid plenty. Why are you recycling your old posts?Ex-Dissidenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03837109472357860889noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-35068851370822420132014-09-21T07:12:06.857-04:002014-09-21T07:12:06.857-04:00I feel that I have read this post before.I feel that I have read this post before.Ex-Dissidenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03837109472357860889noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-14069135232564094672014-09-21T05:03:23.370-04:002014-09-21T05:03:23.370-04:00Um..Wow..great piece Daniel. I wish this could be ...Um..Wow..great piece Daniel. I wish this could be published on the front of every newspaper around the US. This would knock ppl back to their senses and make them suddenly realize what's happening. Not all of course, but many of the sheeple who have just never had anyone effectively communicate the difference. I always share your articles & tell friends that reading your stuff is like candy for my brain. Brilliant. Thank you lilarose4truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05580076951122298952noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-32716990670692101792014-09-21T04:20:16.420-04:002014-09-21T04:20:16.420-04:00Brilliant socioeconomic analysis! As someone who ...Brilliant socioeconomic analysis! As someone who comes from a rationing society, I can vouch for Mr. Greenfield's description of its collective mindset. How sad that so many Americans now _want_ to abandon the production society that has done so well by so many over its history, in order to gain the--illusory--sense of security offered by the machinators of the rationing society.Carlos Pererahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00253355647824872032noreply@blogger.com