tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post958913345982821628..comments2024-03-29T08:36:39.917-04:00Comments on Daniel Greenfield / Sultan Knish Articles at DanielGreenfield.org : The Teddy Bears of Annapolis - The Long Road of Giving in to Muslim GrievancesDaniel Greenfieldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-25225287109037060122007-12-03T11:43:00.000-05:002007-12-03T11:43:00.000-05:00For Israel it's definitely about the land. For the...For Israel it's definitely about the land. For the Palestinians I don't think it is. I think all this complaining about not having a homeland is bogus.<BR/><BR/>Clearly, if they wanted to be Israeli citizens they could be. They'd have a homeland--they'd be Arab Israelis. But they're not happy with that.<BR/><BR/>Clamoring for a homeland is a means to an end--ethnic cleansing of the Middle East of all Jews.<BR/><BR/>Take the Oslo Accords. Someone on either side could have put in a stipulation that the residents in the settlements be allowed to remain in their homes and communities if they chose to.<BR/><BR/>But instead they were forced out and 19 synagogues burned.Keli Atahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05089132216830000713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-71077222310909450632007-12-03T03:04:00.000-05:002007-12-03T03:04:00.000-05:00I feel that for Jews it most definitely now is abo...I feel that for Jews it most definitely now is about land. <BR/>Again, that land is our inheritance and will be Avrahams inheritance, it has to be for Bnai Israel and Bnai Israel alone.<BR/>It is crucial. Letting that land go is a demonstration of not believing Hashem and of not taking his promise to us seriously.<BR/>I agree that for Mohammedans it is not about land at all, that is a ruse.They simply hate people and they are jealous of our position as the people of G-d.<BR/><BR/>But Jews must not give up their inheritance over this bowl of soup.<BR/>This *peace* is non existent and as worthless as a bowl of lentils.<BR/>We need to show Hashem how important the things he gives us are to us. We have to begin with a definite stand. How can we go to Machpelah and pray there and yet not value the land around it?<BR/>Letting those mohammedans destroy Yosef's kever was a horrible sin, a crime!<BR/>Where will it stop, where will we draw a line in the sand.<BR/>Never again rings hollow now.<BR/>The land was worth dying for.<BR/>How many Jews died there for all that land? Are they worthless now?<BR/>All those who died as in the Alta Lena , they deserve more than giving up what they would have died to live in.<BR/>Olmert can do or say as he pleases but if no one backs him up, what will he do?<BR/>I know this is easier said than done but we need passion right now.Chana @ Lemon Lime Moonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11656854855385193867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-73542713911885047022007-12-02T23:06:00.000-05:002007-12-02T23:06:00.000-05:00The world expects Israel to be perpetual victims a...The world expects Israel to be perpetual victims and to just take everything that happens no matter how horrible with a grain of salt. I've never understood this this. Why should people or any nation remain passive in the face of attack?Keli Atahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05089132216830000713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-35930443991850268942007-12-02T20:47:00.000-05:002007-12-02T20:47:00.000-05:00Society still seems to blame the victim(s). If som...Society still seems to blame the victim(s). If someone gets beaten up, well they must have provoked it. <BR/>That is, until it happens to them personally. Then they realise what it is to be a victim, and to be blamed for being the victim.<BR/>Your article is absolutely right. We continue to appease the bullies, and we live like victims.Devorahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00793434651294780439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-31082726219010045882007-12-02T20:09:00.000-05:002007-12-02T20:09:00.000-05:00FANTASTIC post! Normally I am all for peace but w...FANTASTIC post! Normally I am all for peace but with Islamofascists IT IS NOT POSSIBLE. When are we going to 'listen' to their actions not their words?<BR/><BR/>Their behavior is more the childish - is sociopathic <A HREF="http://www.sociopathicstyle.com/traits/classic.htm" REL="nofollow">CLICK HERE FOR SOCIOPATH TRAITS</A>.<BR/><BR/>And giving away Jerusalem let alone pieces of Israel is DISGUSTING!!!! They will not stop until Israel and the Jews are annihilated.Barbarahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10793044176961385860noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-43800389181524619742007-12-02T16:56:00.000-05:002007-12-02T16:56:00.000-05:00It's never been about the land at all. Not in the ...It's never been about the land at all. Not in the least.<BR/><BR/>Muslims demand every accomodation in the US and yet don't make any concessions to accomodate Americans and our lifestyles and religions. It's total hypocrisy.<BR/><BR/>Excellent analogy with the dollar and baseball bat btw. Yep, if we give the a dollar after they plead a little, they learn that they must cry and whine to get a dollar.<BR/><BR/>If they start firing kassams at Israel while demanding more land, and get the land, they learn that they must use weapons to get land.<BR/><BR/>Soon it creates a cicle where "no" means "maybe" to them. Eventually, as with two year olds, "no" is "yes" to them.Keli Atahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05089132216830000713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-21998392567347680202007-12-02T14:49:00.000-05:002007-12-02T14:49:00.000-05:00Giving up land for any reason, peace included is a...Giving up land for any reason, peace included is a sin.<BR/>The land was given by G-d to Avraham and then to his son Yitzchak and passed along to Yaacov and his sons and his 2 grandsons through Yosef, Menashe and Ephraim who are counted as tribes in Israel.<BR/>The land is, in totality an inheritance from G-d. You cannot give it to whomever you wish and law demands that there be a Jubilee at each 50 year time period to make sure the land returns to its original tribes and owners within those tribes.<BR/>So the giving away of land permanently to non-Isralites is a sin and results in punishment.<BR/>Therefore land for peace is a joke since Israel will be be in trouble for doing it .<BR/>All in all it shows a total lack of belief in what G-d says and a lack of faith that what G-d says he is able to fully bring about for his people.<BR/>Gemara says that in the way you wish to go you will be lead. If Israel wishes to go it's own way rather than the way Hashem has proscribed then it reaps what it sows doesnt it?<BR/>I don't think this is a political problem so much as a spiritual one and the politics just reflect how far from Hashem things have gotten.Chana @ Lemon Lime Moonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11656854855385193867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-1686109991974477172007-12-02T13:43:00.000-05:002007-12-02T13:43:00.000-05:00The other day, I was having a conversation with so...The other day, I was having a conversation with someone who asked me, "would you be ready to give up on territories of Israel in exchange for *true peace*?" - to which I replied... come on... let's be realistic. How can we say, after Gush Katif, that giving up more and more would bring us TRUE PEACE? It's just like you describe in your post. Giving more only results in them demanding more.Mrs. Anna Thttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15377583333000789903noreply@blogger.com