tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post8222869176017967776..comments2024-03-29T08:36:39.917-04:00Comments on Daniel Greenfield / Sultan Knish Articles at DanielGreenfield.org : Heter Mechira and the Problem of Unzer YiddenDaniel Greenfieldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-26984801911150396792012-10-29T12:01:19.467-04:002012-10-29T12:01:19.467-04:00We create unity by acquiring power for ourselves a...We create unity by acquiring power for ourselves as individuals within the framework of an ethical standard (Torah) that obligates us to acquire and use that power responsibly.<br /><br />Those individuals that comprehend your social, intellectual, emotional, financial and legal power will be more inclined to work with you rather than against you. They will understand that your strong ethical framework will incline you to work towards their benefit. And that same ethical framework will obligate you to wreck them if they betray you.<br /><br />This is the only real way to achieve unity.Ronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05349024830056532674noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-73332292423293457092007-10-03T10:03:00.000-04:002007-10-03T10:03:00.000-04:00Why not point out that many, many people have opte...Why not point out that many, many people have opted for the balance between the two 'extremes' by donating monthly to the Otzar HaAretz organization? From the funds raised by voluntary contributions, Jewish farmers are paid to leave their land fallow and the produce which grows there is collected and distributed to places where the contributors can exchange coupons for produce. Read more about it here http://www.hashmita.co.il.<BR/><BR/>For what it's worth, I have never subscribed to any legal fiction; not the heter mechira for chametz, the eruvim, or whatever. I am also neither hareidi nor religious zionist, just a plain Torah Jew living in the holy 'settlement' of Yerushalayim.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-65252256086531031882007-10-01T12:23:00.000-04:002007-10-01T12:23:00.000-04:00A good question Kahane. I would guess by not being...A good question Kahane. I would guess by not being as judgmental with fellow Jews and emphasizing that Israel is fighting for its life, it's very survival. Differences can be put aside to fight against the government for the time being.<BR/><BR/>When you see Jews getting beaten to a bloody pul in Amona or losing their homes elsewhere it's time to just support them and fight for them in whatever ways are necessary.<BR/><BR/>Personally, if I had the money I would be in Israel demonstrating at every anti-expulsion or concession to the Arabs protest I could. I can't be there so I can be an armchair activist, sending emails, making donations, and keeping aware of what's going on.<BR/><BR/>Not much I know, but it's a start.Keli Atahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05089132216830000713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-61030780128170519602007-09-30T12:36:00.000-04:002007-09-30T12:36:00.000-04:00Yes, unity is needed, but how are we to create uni...Yes, unity is needed, but how are we to create unity?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-9623020013373276862007-09-26T15:53:00.000-04:002007-09-26T15:53:00.000-04:00Perhaps the compromise is that...the farmers who l...Perhaps the compromise is that...the farmers who let the land go fallow will be supported by the Jews that study Torah; that they'll show compassion for them and appreciation and support even love. After all without the farmers crops how would they live to study Torah??<BR/><BR/>And perhaps the farmers will have a bit more time to study Torah. Without those who study Torah in depth how would the farmers know how important it is to study Torah and let the land rest?<BR/><BR/>Maybe those are the compromises we need to make. Understanding and support which will lead to unity and love.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Just an opinion from the peanut gallery for whatever it's worth.Keli Atahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05089132216830000713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-72028682603526542112007-09-26T14:28:00.000-04:002007-09-26T14:28:00.000-04:00Moshiach will be accepted by all because he compro...Moshiach will be accepted by all because he compromises Torah?<BR/>No way. If he does that he would not be moshiach in any way.<BR/>Denominationalism is a deciding step in the death of a religion or a people.<BR/>Ignoring a land shabbat is asking for a ticket out of the land.<BR/>Compromising the law means you don't have faith.Chana @ Lemon Lime Moonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11656854855385193867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-33850937136495746702007-09-25T19:46:00.000-04:002007-09-25T19:46:00.000-04:00Someone once said that the greatest reformers were...Someone once said that the greatest reformers were the Sages in the Talmud. That the Reform Jews of today do not come close to the things instituted by the Sages. If one was able to time travel one would find a very different type of Jew 3000 years ago. Today, with our ability touch many people, things tend to be much more rigid.<BR/><BR/>Years ago if one had a question one would seek out the advise of a Shul Rabbi. Today it is more likely to ask a Rosh Yeshiva. Going to an Ivy Tower is not always the same as going for practical advise. Today a place like Lakewood and The Mir each have more students then all of pre-war Europe. The point is that we have lost much of the practical advise of the Pulpit Rabbi.<BR/><BR/>There is the famous story of R Gamlial who limited entry to his Yeshiva to those who were totally dedicated. When he was temporarily replaced thousands of students showed up. He was concerned that he had erroded. He had a dreamed which revealed that many of the new students did not amount to much.<BR/><BR/>This tendency is not uniquely Jewish. Much the same occurs in secular colleges too.<BR/><BR/>Giving the situation the benefit of the doubt it is interesting to note that the more rigid and uncompromising Jews become the more the secular world moves to debased morals.<BR/><BR/>Ultimately we tread on issues that can cause greater division. They say how will we know the true Moshoch, he will be someone accepted by all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-49997591257037152282007-09-25T16:14:00.000-04:002007-09-25T16:14:00.000-04:00If the land is not allowed to have its "rest", the...If the land is not allowed to have its "rest", the people are then removed from the land.Chana @ Lemon Lime Moonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11656854855385193867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-78136465924770660922007-09-25T13:50:00.000-04:002007-09-25T13:50:00.000-04:00Dear Daniel,I salute your post, because it may be ...Dear Daniel,<BR/>I salute your post, because it may be unpopular to some, but it is true. The need for truth exceeds the need for popularity. I was just studying such things...disallowance of the Sabbath for the land. G-D is, as you pointed out, very specific with His commandments to allow the land to rest.<BR/>As I was reading, I also went back and read Ha'azinu; I read it on Erev Shabbos as it is (for me) both a declaration of deliverance for Klal Yisrael and also at the "micro" level, for my family and I (our personal "Mitzrayim"). I find hatikva emet b'Ha'azinu.<BR/>Your post is a good example of apostasy from Vayikra 18.5 of obedience to His laws. <BR/><BR/>Ani lo klum, ani lachishiah shoom eesh, v'lo rebbe. But I found something this week. In Ha'azinu. It is based on condition, and not on time. Something I had seen before, but never completely understood until this week.<BR/>In Ha'azinu: Devarim 36.32 tells it; such is conditional, not temporal, as to when.<BR/><BR/>The conditions are almost met. I pray that I can turn my heart toward His Torah completely and walk different, now. I pray for all of us.<BR/>Shalom, v'erev tov.<BR/> Yesha GalluzzoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-80661807763678941912007-09-25T13:39:00.000-04:002007-09-25T13:39:00.000-04:00I think I know what you're saying. Especially with...I think I know what you're saying. Especially with all of the threats facing Jews worldwide there must be something to unite us--such as life, survival and the fact that we are all Jews...Keli Atahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05089132216830000713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-36614214820147139392007-09-25T12:50:00.000-04:002007-09-25T12:50:00.000-04:00It's a wonderful post :) And a call for love and u...It's a wonderful post :) And a call for love and unity among Jews should not be controversial at all. That should always be a popular topic.<BR/><BR/>In my humble opinion...we need both those who study Torah to instruct those who are required to let the land lay fallow (sp).<BR/><BR/>If G-d saw fit to give the land a sabbath of sorts it has to be important. And farmers should store up enough crops and finances to see them through the year.<BR/><BR/>But I don't think this is about farming, but about splits among Jews claiming the observance of the law is more important than the study of the law; one group claiming superiority over another. It's sad really.<BR/><BR/>Is the rift between two groups of religious Jews really that wide?Keli Atahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05089132216830000713noreply@blogger.com