tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post8070000004417158769..comments2024-03-29T00:24:13.128-04:00Comments on Daniel Greenfield / Sultan Knish Articles at DanielGreenfield.org : Obama's Rape Joke HypocrisyDaniel Greenfieldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-43766624785768605672008-09-29T16:16:00.000-04:002008-09-29T16:16:00.000-04:00Raped in May here are my many opinions, victim her...Raped in May here are my many opinions, victim here speaking out! And Thank you Sultan<BR/><BR/>Victoria Placeo<BR/><BR/>http://rape-and-sexual-assault.blogspot.com/2008/09/rape-and-2008-election.htmlVictoria Placeohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11336271995613145690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-71786942651981521502008-06-26T04:20:00.000-04:002008-06-26T04:20:00.000-04:00bs"dThanks for the information on Family Guy. It h...bs"d<BR/><BR/>Thanks for the information on Family Guy. It has political as well as family life implications for me.<BR/><BR/>ElyaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-46669278766984321902008-06-24T20:15:00.000-04:002008-06-24T20:15:00.000-04:00Agreed, but I still say the charge of hypocrisy is...Agreed, but I still say the charge of hypocrisy is ridiculous given the impact each has on the campaign:<BR/><BR/>MacFarlane=none - no personal appearances, no meeting with the candidate, no influence whatsoever.<BR/>Claytie Williams=some - personal appearance, responsible for bundling money (a la W's "pioneers").Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-69457429881500096492008-06-24T00:28:00.000-04:002008-06-24T00:28:00.000-04:00There are worse examples on the series than what w...There are worse examples on the series than what was posted, beyond what a search for clips on YouTube that haven't been taken down will turn up... and the show has been criticized for it by rape victims groups<BR/><BR/>Claytie Williams' comments and MacFarlane's comedy are both repulsive. I think we can agree on that. Debating which is more repulsive is a dead end.Daniel Greenfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-89881042638005089882008-06-23T22:11:00.000-04:002008-06-23T22:11:00.000-04:00Fine, you want to get into the "impact" of a carto...Fine, you want to get into the "impact" of a cartoon vs the republican candidate for governor of Texas, I'm sure more young men today are influenced by "Family Guy". Does MacFarlane's cartoon claim that women "enjoy" rape or portrays any aspect of rape in a positive light? Certainly your examples, while patently offensive, do not demonstrate this.<BR/><BR/>My main point here is that comparing a fundraiser having campaign events featuring the candidate is <B>NOT</B> comparable to one of 1,500,000 donors, and to claim hypocrisy and sexism based on one donor (or two or ten or one thousand) is absurd. You're comparing apples and hand grenades. If Obama is showing up at MacFarlane organized/headlined fundraisers, then I would agree with hypocrisy, but your comparison is beyond strained.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-79514169256470795782008-06-23T00:14:00.000-04:002008-06-23T00:14:00.000-04:00how many people did claytie williams' joke influen...how many people did claytie williams' joke influence vs how many teenage males and young adults who watch Family Guy every week?Daniel Greenfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-42395385128998584512008-06-22T23:26:00.000-04:002008-06-22T23:26:00.000-04:00I have to disagree. As offensive as MacFarlane is...I have to disagree. As offensive as MacFarlane is, nothing compares to "If it's (rape is) inevitable, just relax and enjoy it".<BR/><BR/>And, as stated, Claytie Williams was the figurehead of a large fundraiser, while MacFarlane is one of 1.5 million donors.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-84713658262804164152008-06-22T22:43:00.000-04:002008-06-22T22:43:00.000-04:00it's not ridiculous, noboth claytie and macfarlane...it's not ridiculous, no<BR/><BR/>both claytie and macfarlane were/are cracking jokes. Neither were addressing or specifying actual rape victims. They did treat rape as a joke and viewed rape victims with contempt<BR/><BR/>the difference was the Claytie remark happened 18 years ago, the MacFarlane material is ongoingDaniel Greenfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-43537528963423504542008-06-22T22:40:00.000-04:002008-06-22T22:40:00.000-04:00The Family Guy is trash of the 1st magnitude. Jus...The Family Guy is trash of the 1st magnitude. Just terrible stuff. Despite that, it's ridiculous to compare <I> anything</I> in that show to making the comments of Claytie Williams, which were the classic "If it's inevitable, just relax and enjoy it". I'll try and help you understand it, MacFarlane deals with fictional characters in a fictional milieu, and in this setting, some characters do horrible things. Claytie Williams told rape victims to enjoy it. In addition, Claytie Williams was not someone who donated money to McCain's campaign (as MacFarlane did for Obama), but the figurehead of a large fundraiser.<BR/><BR/>It's not hypocrisy if the comparison is illegitmate.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-42661092080870040092008-06-22T18:12:00.000-04:002008-06-22T18:12:00.000-04:00Family Guy is trash, so I wouldn't rule out a poss...Family Guy is trash, so I wouldn't rule out a possible voice appearance by Mr. Harvard Obama in a pathetic attempt to reach out to trailer trash constituents.<BR/><BR/>Do you watch Family Guy and follow up questions on its portrayl of women would be a nice You Tube question for the next debate.Keli Atahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05089132216830000713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-64142538769268920392008-06-21T23:15:00.000-04:002008-06-21T23:15:00.000-04:00Sad.Democrat party is the party of the American "e...Sad.<BR/>Democrat party is the party of the American "erev rav". So..Chana @ Lemon Lime Moonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11656854855385193867noreply@blogger.com