tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post7038920449278585469..comments2024-03-29T00:24:13.128-04:00Comments on Daniel Greenfield / Sultan Knish Articles at DanielGreenfield.org : Israel's Moloch SyndromeDaniel Greenfieldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-8643680504327255132014-07-15T03:50:37.798-04:002014-07-15T03:50:37.798-04:00Wonderful article, Daniel:)
"The traditional...Wonderful article, Daniel:)<br /><br />"The traditional Jewish martyr who died for the sanctification of the Name of G-d was choosing physical death for the perpetuation of a religious idea that was also a national identity."<br /><br />I instantly thought of Rabbi Akiva. <br /><br />KeliataAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-238934324930736892014-07-13T04:46:56.072-04:002014-07-13T04:46:56.072-04:00I'm an agnostic so am not moved by religious c...I'm an agnostic so am not moved by religious claims. If Jews and Christians think Jews are the chosen people, it's a matter of indifference to me. I can't see why A should be upset that B is "chosen." I've not see anything in what I've read about Muslims in the last nine years that suggests they are torqued over Jews being the CP. <br /><br />It's simpler. The Koran commands Muslims to humiliate, enslave, or kill infidels. End of story.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-65015535895413219152014-07-10T20:41:28.672-04:002014-07-10T20:41:28.672-04:00Beautifully said, philosophically profound, and po...Beautifully said, philosophically profound, and politically acute...Peter Jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05766276771209608127noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-31838736585540149912014-07-10T07:47:05.815-04:002014-07-10T07:47:05.815-04:00"The voice of thy thunder was in the heaven: ..."The voice of thy thunder was in the heaven: the lightnings lightened the world: the earth trembled and shook" .Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-19147436886366035692014-07-09T10:29:54.337-04:002014-07-09T10:29:54.337-04:00Israel is a beacon of light in a part of the world...Israel is a beacon of light in a part of the world that is otherwise a black hole. However, sometimes She acts like a low self esteem wife who refuses to leave her abusive husband.<br /> Most people are aware that Israel could take action that would have serious effects on much of that black hole.<br />Media opinion in the West be damned, they should thank Israel in the end, but they prefer to wait until their own ox is getting gored. By then, it may be too late.<br /><br />sophieAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-44520717240055862622014-07-09T09:54:32.934-04:002014-07-09T09:54:32.934-04:00This is a very helpful perspective on what it mean...This is a very helpful perspective on what it means to be Jewish in a hostile world. This Christian is reminded of Joshua and Caleb while reading it. Thanks, Mr. Knish, for sharing your unique viewpoint.careyrowlandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17958687878367659875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-20444827360756252392014-07-09T08:46:00.161-04:002014-07-09T08:46:00.161-04:00What has to be dealt with for proper understanding...What has to be dealt with for proper understanding is the level of hypocrisy that is normal to human nature. Once a moral coded is applied to somebody else, the holder of the code no longer has to endure the burden of the code. When this happens, not infrequently, the sense of moral purpose soars to the heights. Regrettably the notion of virtue itself often becomes an extreme notion of some otherwise laudable goal, and the thing becomes not virtue, but a commitment to personal moral elitism arrived at by promoting notions of virtue that are often damaging if actually followed.<br /><br />As this applies to Israel in particular, the difference between those who live in Israel and those who live elsewhere is that the residents of the country are the ones who will die or be displaced if the country is overrun. They are also much more likely to be damaged by the random violence of their enemies. Naturally then, the citizens of Israel have a sense of virtue that is more constrained and practical than those who live elsewhere.<br />Johnnyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08858734208780946905noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-20443113964157015922014-07-08T22:35:32.627-04:002014-07-08T22:35:32.627-04:00LFMajor,
And in the meantime the Jews will continu...LFMajor,<br />And in the meantime the Jews will continue to be sacrificial animals for the human predators to feast on. Israel seems to have difficulty recognizing that when they go to clean up the predators' nests or rats' nests you don't leave any predators or rats behind. The female of the species is as vicious as the male and sometimes even more so and they young grow up to be big predators or big rats.<br /> By the way, why do you keep waiting for others to save and rescue you instead of taking the responsibility of taking care of yourself.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-40051989240258338412014-07-08T22:04:53.140-04:002014-07-08T22:04:53.140-04:00Your essay mirrors your inner world that includes ...Your essay mirrors your inner world that includes the Torah. My only criticism is your shortening of the Biblical story where the Jews stand on the two mountains and are told that 'good' and 'life' are similar and therefore they should choose life. It was there that the rough equivalence of 'life' and 'good'.became axiomatic for Judaism. No one else takes that equivalence as seriously as do the Jews. That is why martyrdom as a concept is foreign to Judaism and where it exists, is severely delimited.<br /><br />We as Jews should re-enact that event in each generation. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-42434528628342707012014-07-08T20:57:41.720-04:002014-07-08T20:57:41.720-04:00The political gnostic cults that Eric Voegelin pre...The political gnostic cults that Eric Voegelin predicted would ascend to power has come into being. Their error is in believing the current orders are a cosmic fact, not temporal arrangements of men. This is not a mere theoretical fallacy or mood, but counter principles to the principles of existence. These counter principles, such as the denial of cause and effect in historical reality result in nothing but propaganda for moral insanity. <br /><br />So any action that would have been a call to war in the past are now met by those in the dream world with denunciations, calls for world peace. Another feature is the prohibition on questions, taboos on investigation of cause and effect as an immoral enterprise. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-18898122731968303112014-07-08T19:39:15.760-04:002014-07-08T19:39:15.760-04:00You are a malach Daniel and I pray Hashem takes yo...You are a malach Daniel and I pray Hashem takes your words to heart as you are a bastion of sanity and courage in an Orwellian nightmare of self hating Jews and IzlamoNazism.WomanHonorThyselfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17211851365273181636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-19904581740035166882014-07-08T16:16:55.426-04:002014-07-08T16:16:55.426-04:00Daniel--you are using the terms "universalism...Daniel--you are using the terms "universalism" and "humanism" in a manner inconsistent with both the root words and standard usage. <br /><br />The root word "universe" simply means, all that exists. Or at least, all that exists within a specific time/space cycle of a "Big Bang" and "Big Implosion". <br /><br />Logically extrapolating from this root word, we may say that "Universalism" means that certain principles apply everywhere, every time, and to every person.<br />A humanistic universalism would mean, natural laws govern the universe. <br /><br />Religious universalism means, all religions are equally correct and apply universally. Gandhi was a religious universalist so he is not a example of humanistic universalism. <br /><br />"humanism" simply means, the philosophy that favors human virtues; i.e. the idea that good is defined by the best aspects of human nature, and is not something imposed from a supernatural force (whether applied universally or particularly). <br />"Humanism" does not mean as you state, the idea that Jewish children must become martyrs. <br /><br />"universalism" in political terms, means that murder is murder, no matter where, when or by whom the murder is committed. A Jewish universalist views the commandment against murder to apply universally, while a Jewish particularist might excuse the recent "price tag" murder of an Arab boy (in retaliation for the murder of three Jewish boys). While an Islamist particularist would say, initiation of force against Jews is not bad because the rules of justice are determined by the particular circumstances (such as the religion of the murderer and the murdered) and not universal rules. <br /><br />Natural law does not become invalid justice because of rejection by a particular culture, but rather, punishes cultures that reject the laws that govern us all, while tending to reward cultures that are in accord with universal principles of humanity.<br />What unites all humans is our rational animality. What unites all anti-humanists is rejection of human nature and reality, the ultimate source of principles of justice. <br /><br />Kevin Bjornsonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-87819122125072571872014-07-08T15:43:34.970-04:002014-07-08T15:43:34.970-04:00Your excellent standard is maintained.
While Hama ...Your excellent standard is maintained.<br />While Hama shows no fear of Israel, its continued rocket/missile attacks will continue<br />While Israel ponders how to react to the war crimes and destroys more infrastructure and people unable to move, this is how Hamas and all Arabs rejoice<br />Israel is paralysed to act for fear of condemnation by her "friends" in the west<br />How stupid and delusional of her leaders.<br />Israel needs to take strong action each time.<br />Why did Israel warn Gaza before the IDF struck?<br />How pathetic and what encouragement to the Arabs<br />When will Israel learn<br />Your own people come first, not the UN, EU, USA, Russia etc.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-6897290983988416502014-07-08T15:25:44.368-04:002014-07-08T15:25:44.368-04:00Often this Moloch is Western Elite Opinion. Some...Often this Moloch is Western Elite Opinion. Some want to placate this Moloch out of shared political convictions and others want to placate it out of fear that outside economic and military support will otherwise vanish. It could vanish anyhow, given who now governs the major outside nations! Time for us all to get straight with HaShem, our true Support.RAMnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-4339766761334206102014-07-08T13:14:24.029-04:002014-07-08T13:14:24.029-04:00Daniel, I don't know that you'll ever be a...Daniel, I don't know that you'll ever be able to outdo this piece. Thank you so much for giving word to such truths. Let us hope that this time "for once and for all" will have true meaning, and that Israel will do what has to be done, the US, the UN, and the rest, be damned.Kol Bo Garynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-20494144673145314152014-07-08T11:44:10.073-04:002014-07-08T11:44:10.073-04:00Don't fret. A Josiah for our age will come.Don't fret. A Josiah for our age will come.LFMayornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-1358856234286098272014-07-08T11:00:15.137-04:002014-07-08T11:00:15.137-04:00Candlelight Vigils
Every time I see one these I s...Candlelight Vigils<br /><br />Every time I see one these I see self indulgence and lack of action.<br /><br />Do you or did you ever see candlelight vigils by the enemies of Israel and Jews: Nazi Germany, Khomeini's Iran, Hamas Gaza. No, when one theirs is killed they scream for blood. They don't light candles. I don't mean that Israel should scream for blood but lighting a candle is surrender.<br /><br />My own take is that by the Netanyahu government doing nothing after the boys were found murdered, the only revenge at that point could be taken not by the state but by an individual(s) acting without permission of the state, hence the murder of the Muslim teenager. <br /><br />If Gaza is attacked it will be more about the rockets than the boys. Alex in Montanahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16376478891948116192noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-73445033328769881992014-07-08T10:14:55.430-04:002014-07-08T10:14:55.430-04:00Fully agree with every word here Daniel, excellent...Fully agree with every word here Daniel, excellent article.<br /><br />One cannot embrace cowardice and the moral high ground. With Islam it's either you or them. That applies to all non-believers but more so with Israel and the Jewish people.<br /><br />I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees a coward. I think it was Plato who said: "To be conquered by the self is the most shameful and vile." He's right we have to stop hating ourselves and transfer it to the enemy. <br /><br />Islam deserves nothing less.<br /><br />Proud Brit. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-45421123229869993112014-07-07T23:38:32.556-04:002014-07-07T23:38:32.556-04:00I wrote the above and it truly pains me to not sid...I wrote the above and it truly pains me to not side with Israel in their condemnations of the killing...Israel is to me spot free...can do no wrong in their struggles and even when they appear wrong, as the chosen ones, they will be vindicated...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-8859884037288050152014-07-07T23:35:27.293-04:002014-07-07T23:35:27.293-04:00the idea in this conflict is to win...and to survi...the idea in this conflict is to win...and to survive....when I read the condemnations over the Arab's killing something was nagging me...you made it surface...while the killing was gruesome the outpouring of condemnations seemed somewhat phoney in its attempt to show the world Israel's humaneness...the coverage of those Israeli children that were murdered left out the effect it had on the other Israeli yeshiva children...the bonds that develop, the feeling that their path in life, focusing on G-d, had been defiled and somehow the dead were at fault because the Arabs were protesting Israel's greatness through the killings...and through their kidnappings and deaths that yeshiva children could die were were just like any other secular children or Arab religious children...not so...this revenge murder of a gay Arab is telling you this...the study of Torah gives you strength...and conviction...and courage...the murder of the Arab was done in outrage and in truth these murdered children are not equal...and to say they are is an outrage...one side teaches death and murder, the other teaches Tikum Olam..repair the world...harsh words you say? How dare that I should step outside the lines of political correctness! Call me what you want...use the current words used to stifle dissent to shame me...phobic this and phobic that... YET I REFUSE TO TAKE THE PATH OF THE SUPPOSED HIGH MORAL GROUND CURRENTLY USED BY ISRAEL TO SEEK WORLD APPLAUSE.... what is at the bottom of all this mayhem the Arabs cannot come to grips they aren't the chosen ones even though they've squatted on the G-d appointed land of the Jews and ripped off the Jewish religion and called it their own...What is happening today is long held grievances similar to hand mistress Hagar mocking Sarah and being dismissed...Ishmael mocking Issac during the joyous celebration and feast and being sent away almost empty handed...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-13711787372985118032014-07-07T18:34:30.644-04:002014-07-07T18:34:30.644-04:00I subscribe this great article. I feel sorry for t...I subscribe this great article. I feel sorry for the young Arab lad as I feel for any other kid. But they see our sorrow as weakness.<br /><br />Cheers from Portugal's blog «Amigo de Israel» (Friend of israel).<br /><br />Israel BloomJohn Oliveirahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04897625567407714280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-44755786382144314582014-07-07T17:20:48.260-04:002014-07-07T17:20:48.260-04:00mindReader asks: "By saying this was our only...mindReader asks: "By saying this was our only option to stay alive?"<br /><br />By saying we'll defend our rights whether or not each and every other single individual on Earth says we shouldn't.<br /><br />I hear strong horses are more beloved anyway if that's your goal. Monoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-15869726790253298152014-07-07T17:20:43.878-04:002014-07-07T17:20:43.878-04:00"Take the question of the Jews on which I hav..."Take the question of the Jews on which I have<br />written. No Jew need feel helpless, if he takes to the non-<br />violent way. A friend, has written me a letter objecting<br />that in that article I have assumed that the Jews have been<br />violent. It is true that the Jews have not been actively<br />violent in their own persons. But they called down upon the<br />Germans the curses of mankind, and they wanted Ame-<br />rica and England to fight Germany on their behalf. If I<br />hit my adversary, that is of course violence, but to be<br />truly non-violent I must love him and pray for him even<br />when he hits me. The Jews have not been actively non-<br />violent, or in spite of the misdeeds of the dictators they<br />would say, 'We shall suffer at their hand; they knew no<br />better. But we shall suffer not in the manner in which they<br />want us to suffer. If even one Jew acted thus, he would<br />save his self-respect and leave an example which, if it<br />became infectious, would have the whole of Jewry and leave<br />a rich heritage to mankind besides."Daniel Greenfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-22460857216584938352014-07-07T17:15:29.757-04:002014-07-07T17:15:29.757-04:00Orwell discussed it in his essay, you can find var...Orwell discussed it in his essay, you can find variations of the same idea around<br /><br />https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/JewsGandhi.html<br /><br />you can also find it discussed here<br /><br />http://www.commentarymagazine.com/article/the-gandhi-nobody-knows/<br />Daniel Greenfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-85555918226710320032014-07-07T17:08:42.360-04:002014-07-07T17:08:42.360-04:00"Gandhi's call that the Jews voluntarily ..."Gandhi's call that the Jews voluntarily go to the gas chambers without resisting in order to make an ethical point'<br /><br />Please provide actual quote and book reference.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com