tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post4911193062220565731..comments2024-03-29T00:24:13.128-04:00Comments on Daniel Greenfield / Sultan Knish Articles at DanielGreenfield.org : Defeatism is the Greatest Enemy of the McCain CampaignDaniel Greenfieldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comBlogger35125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-20393447538055171622008-10-27T02:12:00.000-04:002008-10-27T02:12:00.000-04:00Lemon, if you marry Marvin you just have to keep y...Lemon, if you marry Marvin you just have to keep your maiden name too. Much as you hate hyphenated names Mrs. Lemon Lime Moon-Pie sounds nice.Keli Atahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05089132216830000713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-35745940588207300352008-10-27T02:10:00.000-04:002008-10-27T02:10:00.000-04:00Now I have to disagree with you, Steve. If I recal...Now I have to disagree with you, Steve. If I recall correctly Hashem lamented when the Jewish people asked for an earthly king instead of His kingship (right word???). <BR/><BR/>I think He said this to Samuel (not sure). To me, that implies the notion that earthly governments are flawed, as Sultan said. And recognizing that is part of being a G-d fearing person.Keli Atahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05089132216830000713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-1528376648704618552008-10-27T00:13:00.000-04:002008-10-27T00:13:00.000-04:00So Steve agrees yet says I am not G-d fearing. ama...So Steve agrees yet says I am not G-d fearing. <BR/>amazing but expected.Chana @ Lemon Lime Moonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11656854855385193867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-23769790233890674742008-10-26T16:31:00.000-04:002008-10-26T16:31:00.000-04:00Sultan, you wrote: "being godfearing, means actual...Sultan, you wrote: "being godfearing, means actually acknowledging that all human government is flawed and not looking to it for solutions."<BR/><BR/>While I would agree with your point, all human government is essentially flawed -- some more or less than other human governments -- looking to our Bible (Tanakh) there were some leaders who were more or less more virtuous and moral than other leaders in ancient Israel, albeit not perfect. King David and Moses come to mind.<BR/><BR/>If a leader like George W. Bush claims to be a man of deep faith in God, why is is wrong to hold him to this high standard he has set for himself by his own professions of faith in God? Even if Bush's god is not my God, I know Christians that are decent and moral people.<BR/><BR/>I am told, 'Mr. Bush was or is a decent president (only) some people (I guess infering ME) just want everything served up on a solid gold platter and when its not given to them free and easy the moan and whine about it'.<BR/><BR/>I'm not moaning or whining when I say Bush is not a decent president. He is a disaster. I am simply stating facts Sultan. We would not be facing this extraordinarily dangerous juncture in American history, were Bush a decent president or a decent man or a moral man. He is neither decent nor moral and we (I am speaking of this nation) will suffer the consequences. Being God fearing, it seems to me, means acknowledging the Almighty is in control of large events. There is little doubt in my mind, God (if you will) allowed for the Great Depression prior to the rise of perhaps one of the most evil men the world has seen arise heretofore. Certainly he was the most evil monster the Jews had been visited with in all our tortuous history. <BR/><BR/>I am one that does not believe major events happen by chance of by coincidence. God fearing people should be asking, "What is the Almighty is telling this nation at this juncture in our history?" I suspect few Americans asked this question in church this morning.<BR/><BR/>I am pretty sure the Almighty is telling America something or another.<BR/><BR/>Is anyone listening Sultan?<BR/><BR/><BR/>I am told, "No leader is perfect and all human government is evil and wrong. We deal with what we have and make the best of it for now."<BR/><BR/>Well sure, we deal with what we have and make the best of it for now.<BR/><BR/>Does this mean, we are moaning and whining when we point to the fact, Mr. Bush is not a decent president, nor a moral or an ethical man? That he has been a disaster for this nation? <BR/><BR/>No.steve kleinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01909283816016502418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-76495948943199450692008-10-25T23:54:00.001-04:002008-10-25T23:54:00.001-04:00Oh, I always adored Moon Pies. Sigh.. so tasty. Le...Oh, I always adored Moon Pies. Sigh.. so tasty. Lemon Lime Pie.. has a ring to it.<BR/>Are you handsome? I require good looks in men whose first name is Marvin. A girl does have standards you know.Chana @ Lemon Lime Moonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11656854855385193867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-26430074103582390972008-10-25T23:54:00.000-04:002008-10-25T23:54:00.000-04:00Just a minute there, you get your hands off my gal...Just a minute there, you get your hands off my gal Lemon, Marvin or there will be a shooting party tonightAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-67621517200282047762008-10-25T23:53:00.000-04:002008-10-25T23:53:00.000-04:00Hey there Lemon, Will you marry me? I would love t...Hey there Lemon, <BR/>Will you marry me? I would love to change your last name to mine.<BR/>Hugs, kisses and hoping for a favorable reply, <BR/><BR/>Marvin PieAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-63928236650622325612008-10-25T23:52:00.000-04:002008-10-25T23:52:00.000-04:00so are you from the Crater Moons or the Lunar Moon...so are you from the Crater Moons or the Lunar Moons? <BR/><BR/>I knew a Moon once, but it was a Green Cheese Moon named in honor of the landing anniversaryDaniel Greenfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-46368363717544235772008-10-25T23:51:00.000-04:002008-10-25T23:51:00.000-04:00I thought of using "Anonymous" also but so many us...I thought of using "Anonymous" also but so many use it that I decided to go with my real name.. Lemon Lime Moon.<BR/>I don't really care if people recognize me on the street and ask for my autograph anymore. It goes with the territory once you decide to let it all hang out and use your real name!<BR/><BR/>I am now used to people yelling at me on street.. Hey Lemon!! or Hi Ms Moon!!<BR/>Very few use my middle name "Lime" though.<BR/>So , yes Anonymous I completely understand. :)Chana @ Lemon Lime Moonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11656854855385193867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-47624129234555592672008-10-25T23:46:00.000-04:002008-10-25T23:46:00.000-04:00steve being godfearing, means actually acknowledgi...steve being godfearing, means actually acknowledging that all human government is flawed and not looking to it for solutionsDaniel Greenfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-51794244918986445252008-10-25T23:44:00.000-04:002008-10-25T23:44:00.000-04:00Clowns to the left of me jokers to the right here...Clowns to the left of me jokers to the right here I am stuck in the middle with you.Chana @ Lemon Lime Moonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11656854855385193867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-91220224346904176382008-10-25T22:25:00.000-04:002008-10-25T22:25:00.000-04:00well for starters that might work within israel, b...well for starters that might work within israel, but not so well when discussing politics in general<BR/><BR/>secondly labor has reached the point where it's anti-zionist or post-zionist at best<BR/><BR/>thirdly there are too many people with varying definitions of zionism leading to a certain amount of confusion, I would support reasserting the use of Zionist, but the problem with terminology is that when writing for other people you have to convey ideas for clarity rather than ideological purity, which is why I will use Palestinian Arab, for example or Gaza and the West BankDaniel Greenfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-17458501123981168822008-10-25T21:55:00.000-04:002008-10-25T21:55:00.000-04:00I agree that simple terms are nice, but why left t...I agree that simple terms are nice, but why left the opposition chose the words we use. Perhaps we can turn the tables by using alternative terms. For example we can use the term Zionist in place of "right." And, neoZionist in place of "left." That way a liberal minded person can also be a Zionist and doesn't have to vote in lock step with Labor. A settler is now a Zionist who might live in Judah, while someone living in Tel Aviv can also be a Zionist who just happens to live along the coast. We can use the orange ribbons and imprint them with "We Love Zion." When Labor speaks against the Settlers movement they will be described as neo-Zionist. This will hopefully set then apart from those who truly support a Jewish State. Eventually, it is hoped, they will be viewed as anti-Zionist. Likud will be known as the centrist Zionist Party. While Kadima will be listed as a centrist neo-Zionist party.<BR/><BR/>If someone has a better idea I would certainly be interested.<BR/><BR/>To Lemon: Being somewhat an introvert I do not like using my name.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-91468448470327212902008-10-24T17:56:00.000-04:002008-10-24T17:56:00.000-04:00Shut up Steve,Shut up Steve,Chana @ Lemon Lime Moonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11656854855385193867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-2537370600549119612008-10-24T14:41:00.000-04:002008-10-24T14:41:00.000-04:00Lemon, you are apparently not a God-fearing man or...Lemon, you are apparently not a God-fearing man or woman. Where are your morals and your ethics? All human government is evil and wrong? You do not look for righteousness or justice or good leadership because they are all evil?steve kleinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01909283816016502418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-56472954826695275052008-10-24T13:42:00.000-04:002008-10-24T13:42:00.000-04:00Who cares what FDR did. I care about as much as I ...Who cares what FDR did. I care about as much as I care what William the Conquerer did in the past. It is historical now but this is now.<BR/>Bush was a decent president some people just want everything served up on a solid gold platter and when its not given to them free and easy the moan and whine about it.<BR/> No leader is perfect and all human government is evil and wrong. We deal with what we have and make the best of it for now.Chana @ Lemon Lime Moonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11656854855385193867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-68433180941090629362008-10-24T13:36:00.000-04:002008-10-24T13:36:00.000-04:00Lemon, I would submit, there is more to being a gr...Lemon, I would submit, there is more to being a great leader than protecting one's nation from attack. Of course Bush deserves credit for taking the war to the enemy but so does FDR. <BR/><BR/>Nonetheless, FDR did not lift a finger to help the Jews in Europe, though he was repeatedly solicited. He was solicited to relax onerous anti-immigration quotas. He would not. He was urged to bomb railway bridges leading to Auschwitz. Allies bombed Monowitz slave labor synthetic rubber and oil factory only five miles from the Auschwitz crematoria. The Jews in Auschwitz prayed Allies would bomb the crematoria. Roosevelt was urged to bomb. He and his officers and generals refused.<BR/><BR/>Likewise Bush has betrayed an ally who is on the front lines of the battle with the global jihad.<BR/><BR/>This is inexcusable according to my moral bearings. Are we not in some way our brother's keeper?steve kleinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01909283816016502418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-49241470563863750522008-10-24T13:08:00.000-04:002008-10-24T13:08:00.000-04:00Because of George Bush we have not had a terrorist...Because of George Bush we have not had a terrorist attack in the USA since 9 11 of any major consequence.<BR/>He is NOT the reason for the current economic problem, those began with the invention of the Federal Reserve and will continue as long as that evil bunch of money grubbers run the economy of a sovereign nation.Chana @ Lemon Lime Moonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11656854855385193867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-91192518025274207832008-10-24T13:06:00.000-04:002008-10-24T13:06:00.000-04:00I dont want to sit down and think up descriptions ...I dont want to sit down and think up descriptions for someone who remains anonymous. It's stupid.Chana @ Lemon Lime Moonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11656854855385193867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-629104966712192242008-10-24T12:16:00.000-04:002008-10-24T12:16:00.000-04:00off topic comments are just as welcome as on topic...off topic comments are just as welcome as on topic comments and you can always use my email as well, sultanknish@yahoo.com<BR/><BR/>right and left are terms with limited meaning I agree, values are defining but we use verbal shortcuts to substitute for long essaysDaniel Greenfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-89748665443045422122008-10-24T10:48:00.000-04:002008-10-24T10:48:00.000-04:00Keli Ata, Thanks. I am not making a direct compar...Keli Ata, Thanks. I am not making a direct comparison between Obama and Hitler. I should have made it clear.<BR/><BR/>Generally, when I mention the two as a historical analogy, I am careful to not draw direct parallels, though there may be a few. I cannot say Obama's hatred for the Jews is as intense as Hitler's, though I believe there is some antipathy. Seems to me, in light of his associations, there's got to be. Obama seems more like Neville Chamberlain in his foreign policy outlook, though to be fair, George W. Bush has also exhibited Chamberlain-like attributes when it comes to Israel. Obama has a visceral contempt for Israel in my view, coupled with an attraction for the Muslim-Arab culture and religion. <BR/><BR/>In light of this, I believe a President Obama will present a grave danger to America, as well as a strong challenge to the conservative movement. I am hopeful, America's conservative movement will not descend to the deplorable situation we see in much of Europe. I believe conservatives will have to atone for this shameful silence -- we've witnessed for close to eight years --in the face of Bush's disgraceful, even criminal behavior.<BR/><BR/>The point is, people do desperate things when they perceive we are living in desperate times. Only historic-minded people seem to be aware of this danger.<BR/><BR/>I believe Bush has greatly weakened the Republican party and the nation due to his immoral policies with respect to Israel.<BR/><BR/>Mr. Bush, it seems, is clueless when it comes to Islamic culture and history. Bush has propagated one untruth after another untruth about our enemy. Wouldn't it have been reasonable to expect, following the 9/11 Muslim terror atrocities on U.S. soil, Bush would have gathered around him some of the best minds and scholars on Islam, Islamic history and culture? One would have expected wrong. Consequently, the region is far more unstable than it was prior to the Bush presidency. The notion of spreading Jeffersonian democracy amongst the Muslim-Arab peoples is Wilsonian; not conservative. Ariel Sharon warned Bush, "In terms of culture and tradition, the Arab world is not built for democratization." <BR/><BR/>We have two new terror states / regimes in the Middle East, Lebanon and Gaza in large part because of Bush's visionary policies. We have a Shi'ite, Iran-friendly regime in Baghdad.<BR/> <BR/>To add insult to injury, what does Mr. Bush do only days after the Saudi-backed atrocities in New York and Washington, early October 2001? He declared war on our only reliable ally in the Middle East, on Israel, prompting the politically weak / corrupt Ariel Sharon to publicly plead with Bush, "Do not repeat the dreadful mistake of 1938 when enlightened European democracies decided to sacrifice Czechoslovakia for a convenient temporary solution. Do not try to appease the Arabs on our expense!" Colin Powell soon brought the recalcitrant prime minister into line with Bush administration policy. The rest is history.steve kleinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01909283816016502418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-49036810834459726042008-10-24T10:25:00.000-04:002008-10-24T10:25:00.000-04:00Maybe I am missing the link, but you do not seem t...Maybe I am missing the link, but you do not seem to have a way to send information and thoughts directly to you. Sometimes I would like to comment about something not directly related to the most current piece.<BR/><BR/>This is one of those times.<BR/><BR/>I have always been troubled by terminology. Just what is meant by "right" and "left?" Often Right goes with Right-wing, Settlers, Religious. Left-wing leads to irreligious, liberals, Ivy-league. But, in Israel this is not correct. (Perhaps it has never really been correct anywhere.) For example, you have religious people opposed to settlements.<BR/><BR/>Recently there was a thoughtful opinion piece on the Arutz Sheva website. I think it was titled, “Whether the Left.” The author claims to be a leftist, but not party to the so-called Left. I will let you read the entire article rather then summarize it. It is too important to miss.<BR/><BR/>Here is another question that is often ignored. The International Right and the International Left seem to be in agreement that Israel is illegitimate. How could two opposing ideologies be in agreement? Reading this article provides a possible answer. When it comes to those extremists their true agenda is not justice, but to destroy Judaism (not simply Israel), each for their own reasons.<BR/><BR/>What is truly needed are new/improved terms to define those who want to build Judaism and those who want to tear it down. We must not allow those opposed to traditional values to set the agenda though terminology.<BR/><BR/>That facts are that there are many people who hold liberal values that are still in favor of a Jewish State. You rarely hear of such people because they have no party or "heading" to work with.<BR/><BR/>Let everyone reading this comment sit down and come up with some suggestions that better discribe the two groups.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-20648044983422996412008-10-23T23:46:00.000-04:002008-10-23T23:46:00.000-04:00I'm really praying Mccain/Palin win, pleading almo...I'm really praying Mccain/Palin win, pleading almost with G-d not to curse our country with the terrorist-loving Obama and the Orwellian tactics of his followers.Keli Atahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05089132216830000713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-59138621618626385742008-10-23T21:21:00.000-04:002008-10-23T21:21:00.000-04:00Here in the Nobama homeland newspapers and radio s...Here in the Nobama homeland newspapers and radio shows are discussing the cost to Chgo for the big O's coronation...Election Day has yet to arrive...Unbelievable. <BR/>Go McCain-Palin.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-91814418700555089272008-10-23T17:54:00.000-04:002008-10-23T17:54:00.000-04:00The people I'm talking to in my neighborhood are a...The people I'm talking to in my neighborhood are also voting for McCain/Palin. Same reasons--they just don't trust him.<BR/><BR/>I haven't see one Obama/Biden sign at all. The only political signs are for local races.Keli Atahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05089132216830000713noreply@blogger.com