tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post4729064081764532363..comments2024-03-28T17:49:27.846-04:00Comments on Daniel Greenfield / Sultan Knish Articles at DanielGreenfield.org : Anders Behring Breivik and the High Cost of Muslim ImmigrationDaniel Greenfieldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comBlogger39125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-16131258544732627742011-07-26T15:53:07.782-04:002011-07-26T15:53:07.782-04:00My response to these events is somewhat different....My response to these events is somewhat different. There has been much written about the power of various groups and ideologies to create havoc. I disagree. Individuals create havoc and in this case many deaths.<br /><br />To me, it wasn't Muslim ideas, or lack of response to those ideas that caused the deaths. It wasn't left-wing or right-wing or any such bird-brained theories that caused the deaths. Check the autopsies. Anders bombs and bullets caused the deaths.<br /><br />Anders Behring Breivik, an individual, researched how much fertilizer was necessary for the initial distracting bomb blast. He was careful not to kill himself while assembling this bomb, or while detonating it.<br /><br />He had previously, over a significant period of time, secured a police uniform, and a wide variety of weapons.<br /><br />To me, looking forward, I'd like to reduce the number of future Anders, hopefully to zero. My approach to this is to fully and as completely as possible UNDERSTAND what went on in Anders mind, so we can hopefully prevent any other individual from going down the same path, coming to the same conclusions, and performing similar actions.<br /><br />Fortunately for us, he wrote out much of his thought processes in a long manifesto. I finally located & downloaded it. Hmm 1516 pages... I'm currently at p55. This will be a long effort but I hope it will be worthwhile. IF, and that's a very big IF we spent the time & effort to fully UNDERSTAND the killers at Columbine High School & Virginia Tech we might not be here today. But we didn't put in the effort and we are here today.<br /><br />BobBobGhttp://www.KnCell.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-22980005667547317402011-07-26T04:50:23.601-04:002011-07-26T04:50:23.601-04:00One question.
Since you seem to blame the muslims...One question.<br /><br />Since you seem to blame the muslims end multi-cultur for the Utoya-massacre.<br />Do you blame the rape-victims for the rape aswell?Niklas Starowhttp://www.liberaldemokraterna.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-18410267705449705942011-07-25T23:33:06.255-04:002011-07-25T23:33:06.255-04:00Indeed.
For the record I deleted inappropriate co...Indeed.<br /><br />For the record I deleted inappropriate comments from both sides.Daniel Greenfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-72413630278383272142011-07-25T23:27:06.173-04:002011-07-25T23:27:06.173-04:00Anonymous above accused Daniel of "censorship...Anonymous above accused Daniel of "censorship." He wrote: "I notice your author is engaging in censorship. He deleted two of my posts. They weren't even particularly critical. You think you can trust this guy?"<br /><br />Regardless of whether or not your remarks were critical, Daniel did not engage in "censorship." This is his blog, and he may delete or retain posts as he sees fit. Because force or the threat of force is entailed in censorship, only governments may practice censorship. Daniel did not employ force, but exercised the propriety right of his site here. If you still believe he employed censorship, please show us your injuries.Edward Clinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12160209827969614964noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-23888357691298176922011-07-25T20:23:02.770-04:002011-07-25T20:23:02.770-04:00Did I say it was?
It wasn't an excuse, it pro...Did I say it was?<br /><br />It wasn't an excuse, it provided a pretext. And the way to deal with it is to address the social problem of Islamic immigration.Daniel Greenfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-71292223899920734162011-07-25T20:21:52.309-04:002011-07-25T20:21:52.309-04:00Muslim immigration is no excuse for what whatshits...Muslim immigration is no excuse for what whatshitsname did.careyrowlandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17958687878367659875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-39978170193765143892011-07-25T18:28:14.281-04:002011-07-25T18:28:14.281-04:00If the 2 posts are the ones I have read, your tone...If the 2 posts are the ones I have read, your tone was rather unpleasant as you called all of us "psychos" without any good reason.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-14159716197629799712011-07-25T17:53:32.005-04:002011-07-25T17:53:32.005-04:00I notice your author is engaging in censorship. H...I notice your author is engaging in censorship. He deleted two of my posts. They weren't even particularly critical. You think you can trust this guy?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-33356469723595675802011-07-25T16:56:09.414-04:002011-07-25T16:56:09.414-04:00Edgar, thanks for your link. Fed.Edgar, thanks for your link. Fed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-5053361851995123182011-07-25T16:27:02.622-04:002011-07-25T16:27:02.622-04:00The hypocrisy of the Norwegian politicians and of ...The hypocrisy of the Norwegian politicians and of the media here in the UK is quite incredible. I just heard a senior Norwegian government members on the BBC news claim that, with the 'possible exception of the Beslan massacre', the Norway attack was 'unprecedented because it was the only terrorist attack in history in which children were specifically targeted'. See here why this is nonsense:<br /><br />http://edgar1981.blogspot.com/2011/07/norwegian-hypocrisy.htmlMark Wrighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14634542433903164227noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-23839132194901212011-07-25T15:26:53.122-04:002011-07-25T15:26:53.122-04:00It would be very good if our """&qu...It would be very good if our """"leaders"""" would really take damn serious this tragical norwegian blood shed. But not because we european are violent neo-nazi, and more repression is needed. Rather because we don't recognize ourselves with our """leaders""" anymore, even less with the EU Soviet Superstate.<br /><br />We also have enough of being tagged as nazi-racists (or psychos, like the anonymous above does) by the same mobsters that deny and downplay the Holocaust and the right of the Jewish people for their own country and identity. Just because we don't want to import even more dhimmies, as if there not enough among us already, and want to be free.<br /><br />And this is a big problem: the dhimmies among us. The society is split and there are internal tensions. At the moment that the dhimmies will outnumber the free peoples, the last ones will have to go.<br /><br />Fed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-42955055845524772332011-07-25T13:40:31.019-04:002011-07-25T13:40:31.019-04:00MOre about the youth camp here.
http://sheikyermam...MOre about the youth camp here.<br />http://sheikyermami.com/2011/07/23/my-childhood-paradise/<br /><br />One commenter notes that Fatah Youth have been invited to meet the Workers Youth - how sweet!<br />Lefties and terrorist yoof...TBSnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-9810776060628996702011-07-25T13:26:01.081-04:002011-07-25T13:26:01.081-04:00I beg to differ Knish - Norway's - and everyon...I beg to differ Knish - Norway's - and <i>everyone's</i> social problem is cultural marxism. The islamic invasion is not in itself the problem: the refusal of western society to stand it's ground and draw a line in the sand is.<br />Cultural marxism has done far more damage than this disastrous immigration, all of which Breivik adresses in his manifesto, so maybe we <i>should</i> all read it, now that he so kindly has gathered the whole shebang to read for everyone who could not be bothered before.<br />Furthermore: I've read the same pages you did, but I would not diagnose Breivik as a depressive or a bi-polar, much less as an anti social loser.<br />You do not do the man justice if you refuse to understand that he sees the west heading for perdition - not by islam, but by our own pundits, and that democratic means will not save us anymore, because the powers that be simply will not listen.<br />They've deliberately done away with our identity, our culture, our institutions and now with our economic health. <br />Sooner or later all europeans will realise that a war is being waged against us - by our own people. Breivik was simply the first who has taken up arms.<br /><br />Peace and freedom apparently still have to be fought over, especially if it's foes have taken to stealth, betrayal and deceit to kill it, as our leaders have..And in such conditions a fifth colonne of khilafa-dreamers ìs a menace. It's too late now.<br />Europe is sick, and maybe bloodletting is in order.Paardestaarthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07220926829644747999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-24313358238002028452011-07-25T13:03:01.166-04:002011-07-25T13:03:01.166-04:00The article below might shed some light on why Bre...The article below might shed some light on why Breivik targeted the youth camp. <br /><br />"The campers at Utoya appeared to be the embodiment of his hatred.<br />Organized by the youth wing of the ruling Labour Party, the camp has become a kind of multicultural incubator in recent years. Many of the victims in Friday’s shooting were the children of immigrants from Africa and Asia who have begun to stake out a greater role for themselves in Norwegian society."<br />http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/europe/attacks-turned-a-paradise-of-my-youth-into-hell/article2108036/print/<br /><br />jsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-26299314053742537782011-07-25T13:01:42.498-04:002011-07-25T13:01:42.498-04:00Disagree slightly with one point.
Oslo's soci...Disagree slightly with one point.<br /><br />Oslo's social problem is the agreement to despise their own people and let their Jewhatred allow them to betray their own people by agreeing to the EAD (EuroArab Dialogue) which stipulated the flooding of Muslims into Norway and allowing them citizens rights and rights over and above those of Norwegians, in ordewr to satisgy the EU's desiree to team up with Arabs in order to challenge the USA.<br /><br />A stupid move that has hollowed out any good Europe ever had.<br /><br />Muslim immigration, subject to normal regulatory preocedures like other forms of immigration, and with punishment of rogue Sharia -pushing, terrorist supporting Muslims would not have had such a devastating effect on Norway's Jews, women and homosexual and society as a whole, had its governemt not decided to effectively replace its own population with one allowed to ride roughshod over it.<br /><br />THAT is Oslo's (and Europe's) social problem - to have its own set of slavedealers of its own people in favour of another.<br />And of course, those who orchestrated the deal? Generally get off - except possibly in this case - scot free.TBSnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-55536723813350829852011-07-25T10:56:05.456-04:002011-07-25T10:56:05.456-04:00Ah hah! Cecilie, the guys in the link you post hav...Ah hah! Cecilie, the guys in the link you post have funny beards... ;-)<br /><br />Jokes apart, let's imagine that islamic terrorism is still statistically less common in europe and usa, compared to the record holders (the left-wing terrorists, oh surprise!) and the separatists.<br />The fact that islamic terrorism is plaguing the islamic countries and threatening the very existence of Israel, wouldn't be enough of a concern? Muslims have imported a number of "cultural aspects" in the west that do not really fit in our free (for how long not sure) world. Is it so crazy to be concerned about the fact that they could import their jihadist methods here too?<br /><br />Fed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-28978086593760261492011-07-25T10:39:20.269-04:002011-07-25T10:39:20.269-04:00http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/wanted_terrorists/@@want...http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/wanted_terrorists/@@wanted-group-listingCeciliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03658445910775045863noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-1699920010346734892011-07-25T10:35:39.050-04:002011-07-25T10:35:39.050-04:00Someone had posted a link to an article that prove...Someone had posted a link to an article that proves (with statistics) that muslim terrorism is insignificant with respect to other motive terrorism, in europe and america. This might be true, and we don't need statistics for that - as we are not stupid.<br /><br />But one can present true data, in mis-leading ways. The left is a master at this. The person that posted that link should be than really honest and scientific and post the statistics of muslim terror attacks in muslim countries, and in countries that share borders with muslim countries. Like Israel and India. He/she should mention the willingness of muslims in making peace with bordering non-muslim countries. And then he/she should post the statistics on muslim "integration" in europe/usa. And muslim rape in europe/usa.<br /><br />Then maybe he/she would understand our concerns. Just concerns...I hope there still freedom to have doubts.<br /><br />Fed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-16579782676827477312011-07-25T10:19:31.452-04:002011-07-25T10:19:31.452-04:00Excluding the horrible murder from the equation wh...Excluding the horrible murder from the equation what is the truth about this youth camp, it was the breeding ground for the next generation of the Western way of life undermining leftwing future leaders of Norway as Ciccio mentioned. As deplorable as once the training camps in the Libyan dessert where once Europe's extreme left trained for their deeds of terror. These Norwegians are not idealistic pacifists but the party framework, neither idealistic nor pacifist in their political core only as the one side of their Janus mask shown to public.mindRiderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12160934421830568737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-7445846360972820042011-07-25T10:13:34.084-04:002011-07-25T10:13:34.084-04:00Hermit Lion
I totally agree. This anders guy is v...Hermit Lion<br /><br />I totally agree. This anders guy is very suspicious, and i'm sure he must have been aware he'd set back the anti Jihad movement. All is not what it seems. Maybe he is working for islamists. Where did he get his wealth from? He is said to be rolling in it.<br /><br />All this is part of a larger plot.kufarnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-7689798308782983212011-07-25T10:03:25.255-04:002011-07-25T10:03:25.255-04:00It is interesting to read the article "Shocki...It is interesting to read the article "Shocking Report of Norway's Anti-Semitism" on 6 July in Arutz Sheva, URL<br />http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/145473#.Ti1142Etwsg<br /><br />It makes one wonder what other sick ideologies are floating around in Norway. After all, Norway was well known as the homeland of Quisling!Irwin Ruffnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-49965435379795170182011-07-25T09:59:02.392-04:002011-07-25T09:59:02.392-04:00It does takes a few generations of idealistic paci...It does takes a few generations of idealistic pacifists to produce a generation where 700 of them will let themselves be picked off one by one by a single man. These were not children, this was an indoctrination camps for the next generation of idealistic pacifists. The Muslims who keep threatening to take over Europe must be laughing when they see what only one man can do.Ciccionoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-66016693031467223662011-07-25T09:29:02.270-04:002011-07-25T09:29:02.270-04:00I agree with Proud Brit. The Muslims are only a co...I agree with Proud Brit. The Muslims are only a consequence of the cultural marxism. The european left needs them - so they import them, whether we like it or not. Muslims could come to the "free world" (between too many quotes) to grow up, learn that only by taking their life in their hands they will not make the west a copy of their failed lands. But Muslims here will meet the Marxists, who, as i said above, need more dhimmies to replenish their vote ballots.<br /><br />The "free world" is becoming less and less free, the society more and more estranged. Our identity is getting lost in leftist moralism, and we are becoming impotent to the Muslim ideology.<br /><br />Fed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-9888671335189858702011-07-25T09:11:05.193-04:002011-07-25T09:11:05.193-04:00Good writing again Daniel but I must disagree with...Good writing again Daniel but I must disagree with you. I think the problem in Europe is cultural Marxism. It isn't just muslims that are destroying the west it is mass immigration and the destruction of national identity. All a part of the Marxist goal to destroy the west. <br /><br />I believe they know full well what they are doing and that they want to create total chaos so as to seize absolute power. <br /><br />It seems to me that this deranged man was motivated by a hatred for Marxism more than Islam. It is the Marxists who have betrayed us though, Islam is just one part of their attack on western civilization.<br /><br />Proud Brit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-65596640272494490302011-07-25T08:59:43.249-04:002011-07-25T08:59:43.249-04:00Very hard-hitting and correct analysis. Because I&...Very hard-hitting and correct analysis. Because I'm Norwegian I can't even mention the world muslim in my blog right now, as Norwegians are linking arms with the misunderstood and downtrodden minority so wrongly accused in the initial news reports. <br /><br />Apart from the unfathomable and despicable atrocities carried out by this deluded creature, the worst thing is that he has set back the work of anti-sharia, pro free speech and anti-jihadist people by several decades. Clever as he must be, couldn't he see that Norwegians, always on the side of the perceived underdog, would now become even MORE politically correct? And that they will vote overwhelmingly for the Labour party again in September?<br /><br />Here is my blog comment : http://www.chinadroll.com/?p=3307Ceciliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03658445910775045863noreply@blogger.com