tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post2223072284046813104..comments2024-03-28T03:24:11.539-04:00Comments on Daniel Greenfield / Sultan Knish Articles at DanielGreenfield.org : Banning the Burqa to Protect WomenDaniel Greenfieldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-73384495385911767952013-01-29T11:32:51.393-05:002013-01-29T11:32:51.393-05:00While I wish it were a matter of a woman's rig...While I wish it were a matter of a woman's right to wear what she pleases, it is doubtful that this 'fashion' would last even a few weeks if the same women found themselves on a desert island without the presence of men. So, to me (a bleeding heart liberal) it is the oppression of women. If it is to protect women - then it should be men who are confined in something that prevents them from raping, etc.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-44127622044334964402010-05-27T18:25:19.881-04:002010-05-27T18:25:19.881-04:00To anonymous regarding the second comment: It'...To anonymous regarding the second comment: It's interesting that you brought that up about Jewish women in Muslim countries having to wear a hijab.<br /><br />I see that as a secular form of Islam. I know that sounds contradictory but think about it--in the US many people who are not particularly religious still celebrate Christmas. It's become a secular religious holiday for a lot of people. Practice and conformity will eventually blur with faith.<br /><br /><br />If non-Muslims are forced or socially compelled to wear a hijab, not eat pork in front of them, no wine at a restaurant etc. then Islam has become a secular "religion." A religion of deed but not creed. In essence, forced to practice Islam and thus "Muslim" by default if that makes any sense.<br /><br />Eventually the lines get blurred and Islam usurps Judaism, Christianity, Buddhism, Hinduism etc.<br /><br />Life as we know it changed forever.Keli Atahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05089132216830000713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-22506153052810565692010-05-25T20:44:18.272-04:002010-05-25T20:44:18.272-04:00Or appeasement.Or appeasement.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-27796662538406845932010-05-24T21:06:01.548-04:002010-05-24T21:06:01.548-04:00certainly it can't be solved through accommoda...certainly it can't be solved through accommodationDaniel Greenfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-28370962855429320572010-05-24T19:54:41.120-04:002010-05-24T19:54:41.120-04:00Forcing women to live this way , in veils and unde...Forcing women to live this way , in veils and under domination, is a form of dehumanization and slavery.<br />Slavery is against the law in the west and therefore these clothes must be banned.Chana @ Lemon Lime Moonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11656854855385193867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-69872443833721678132010-05-24T19:54:41.121-04:002010-05-24T19:54:41.121-04:00The most galling aspect of the burqa in the West, ...The most galling aspect of the burqa in the West, is the public manifestation of our acceptance of institutionalised slavery. It is an acknowledgement, that we as a Western society, have recognised the institutionalised slavery of women in Islam, as legitimate in the West. This is what the slippery slope of “diversity” and miasma of “multiculturalism” has led our whoe societies to.<br /><br />This is the trouble we have we have. We are looking for practical solutions to problems that are not in the physical domain. Islam is a culture that is so alien to anything in the West, that it can be regarded as practically out of this planet. There are no practical solutions to "honour" killings, SJS, FGM, homegrown Jihadis etc., that will allow Islam to be at peace with us. The problem is not physical, and cannot be solved by throwing money at it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-67341395529212702412010-05-24T17:54:13.619-04:002010-05-24T17:54:13.619-04:00It depersonalizes women who wear it.
The point of...<i>It depersonalizes women who wear it.</i><br /><br />The point of the burqa is an instrument to not let a woman have an identity outside the confines of the home. The burqa'd woman has no identity, and quite literally, has no public persona. <br /><br />As such a burqa woman should not vote, should not be eligible for any state assistance, should not acquire a bank account, credit card, driving license, or any of the multiple sources of information that define the identity of an individual, for at the elementary level, of them rest on seeing the face of an individual.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-1566118645556042692010-05-24T15:54:04.934-04:002010-05-24T15:54:04.934-04:00anonymous, it gives you some protection because ev...anonymous, it gives you some protection because even though you may be a dhimmi, you are still following islamic law. and seeing a dhimmi being forced to surrender to islamic law makes them feel just as satisfied, probably even *more* satisfied, than a seeing a muslim following islamic law.Ynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-91709100384999684922010-05-24T10:52:27.611-04:002010-05-24T10:52:27.611-04:00Mike thanks, that's good to hearMike thanks, that's good to hearDaniel Greenfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-55063864494181227012010-05-24T10:52:00.095-04:002010-05-24T10:52:00.095-04:00indeed it was to distinguish a woman as belonging ...indeed it was to distinguish a woman as belonging to a man, who in turn belonged to the authority of the islamic ruler as a dhimmiDaniel Greenfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-41188285668763582582010-05-24T09:05:57.234-04:002010-05-24T09:05:57.234-04:00This is one of your best articles. Really should b...This is one of your best articles. Really should be a must read for all in the western world. Thanks for all your reads. It's getting to be, along with coffee, that I need to read Sultan Knish first thing in the morning and I am not ever Jewish. thanks Mike ElmoreMike Elmorehttp://markkillian377@hotmail.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-21784501566588864842010-05-24T05:57:10.834-04:002010-05-24T05:57:10.834-04:00What I found interesting is that the Moslems requi...What I found interesting is that the Moslems required Jewish women in their lands to *also* wear the hijab which is the head scarf is it not? That indicates to my Sephardic mind that there was some implied protection for us also if, as you say, it was to distinguish a woman as being under the protection of a [Moslem] male guradian and therefore not permitted to be molested. I have noticed both in the US and here in Israel, because I cover my hair with a scarf, Jewish style, not Islamic, Moslem men diver their eyes and are relatively deferential. I don't get insults or insolence. I am an older woman but far from unpleasant to look at.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-23562253288307723782010-05-24T03:13:24.208-04:002010-05-24T03:13:24.208-04:00Having long believed that the wearing of a burqa w...Having long believed that the wearing of a burqa was a matter of personal choice, I think now I finally get it. This article should be translated into as many languages as possible.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com