tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post2179728047049632408..comments2024-03-28T17:49:27.846-04:00Comments on Daniel Greenfield / Sultan Knish Articles at DanielGreenfield.org : Better or Worse?Daniel Greenfieldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comBlogger23125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-43559251970405869662013-04-04T10:15:43.296-04:002013-04-04T10:15:43.296-04:00Literary license. You never said "bomb"...Literary license. You never said "bomb" anything. Your point was that partisanship is not a good way to deal with things - while I (as I said) agree in principle, it is rare that a single issue can be worked on in solitary fashion. No insult intended.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-47793518103555903732013-04-04T04:12:45.817-04:002013-04-04T04:12:45.817-04:00One of the problems with "take the issues and...<i><br />One of the problems with "take the issues and bomb the rest" is that issues are rarely monochromatic <br /></i><br /><br />I don't recall saying anything about bombing, but I do agree that things are not black and white, or right and left, as I said originally. All I know is that when we find ourselves arguing endlessly about who is the "real" right or left, it means the terms have become useless.fsynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-29344671034692476182013-04-03T22:07:36.753-04:002013-04-03T22:07:36.753-04:00When the libs get struck by a rattler and they nee...When the libs get struck by a rattler and they need someone to suck the venom out, we'll tell them to call the Occutard Movement.Larshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13244208740850193859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-38077200846052215202013-04-03T18:56:26.410-04:002013-04-03T18:56:26.410-04:00I'm always getting put in my room. I actually ...I'm always getting put in my room. I actually had to sit in the corner with a dunce cap when I was a kid if I did something at school. Imagine that scenario now and what the Liberals would do to it. They would make me a victim instead of a kid who wouldn't stop talking.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09518677967627217789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-71257924845692392082013-04-03T18:50:04.748-04:002013-04-03T18:50:04.748-04:00Kelli-- He didn't miss the mark. You just don&...Kelli-- He didn't miss the mark. You just don't agree with him.<br /><br />Dennis Latham-- go to your room.Chana @ Lemon Lime Moonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11656854855385193867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-58071461772330724702013-04-03T18:04:40.075-04:002013-04-03T18:04:40.075-04:00On the left, the women put out because they are so...On the left, the women put out because they are so Liberal so the men flock there while young. But as men age and the Liberal women age and get that pinched unhappy look, whether rich or poor, then the men flock right where the women retain their good looks into old age. So, everything can be boiled down to sex. Old hippies join the estblishment because they have a better chance of getting laid when they are older. Ha.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09518677967627217789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-10506341364222162582013-04-03T17:40:10.618-04:002013-04-03T17:40:10.618-04:00Daniel, I love ya but you really missed the mark o...Daniel, I love ya but you really missed the mark on this one. <br /><br />"All politics are the politics of the future. The one cause that we all champion, regardless of our political orientation, is the cause of the future. All that we fight for is the ability to shape the future." <br /><br />No -- the entire point of our $16 trillion debt is to sacrifice our future for the present, to "Laissez les bons temps rouler" at the expense of our children and grandchildren. Borrow it, print it, steal it, raid Obama's stash -- we don't care how we get it, at its core the Democrat welfare state is predicated on partying today. Now. In the present. Future be damned. All that matters is the next election cycle. There are no visionaries.<br /><br />And your next paragraph is based on a question also very much rooted in the present: "Are things getting better?" Not "Will things get better" a la the Consumer Confidence Index, but "How are things now" compared to, I dunno, a week, a year, a decade ago.<br /><br />When your first two paragraphs undermine your central premise, we got problems.<br /><br />Your statement that "The vital mantra of the left is do something for the sake of doing something. Change for the sake of novelty. Action for the sake of action" is a facile characterization I suspect no leftist would embrace. You don't have to turn them into cartoons; there's enough accurate dysfunction and malice without manufactured hyperbole.<br /><br />I look forward to your next epistemological masterpiece ... let's just chalk this one up to some bad shrimp.Amy Armadillohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05427981174660012145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-163406555808151962013-04-03T16:17:23.875-04:002013-04-03T16:17:23.875-04:00Speaking of the Founding Fathers generally, they w...Speaking of the Founding Fathers generally, they were intelligent rightists all the way. They built on the ancient and historical rights of the individual, the present and the past of the day. They rebelled against a perversion of the march of history, in which the British sought to put and keep the American colonies as vassal states, in which the riches and property were plundered, to the benefit of King George and his minions. At least the history of the victors is written that way. <br /><br />Dutch 1960<br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-33981477422034803562013-04-03T13:34:00.577-04:002013-04-03T13:34:00.577-04:00So on which side is George Washington?So on which side is George Washington?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00163149758780477770noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-1474406467424808242013-04-03T13:03:56.054-04:002013-04-03T13:03:56.054-04:00Similarly, a train (like humankind) has been creat...Similarly, a train (like humankind) has been created by a designer to run on train tracks.<br /><br />Limiting? Yes, but at the same time, when taking heed to the oft-seen advice of "for best results, follow manufacturer's directions," running the train on the tracks liberates one to move more efficiently and easily to a desired destination than one could simply by foot.<br /><br />Misguided attempts to "seek its freedom" by leaving the tracks, by rejecting its "constraints" and exercising its choice to pursue less-limiting alternatives does not result in something that anyone I have ever heard celebrate as a vibrant expression of true independence. Rather most folks usually call it for what it is: a train wreck, film at 11:00.<br /><br />The tracks can be one's limitation or one's path to further exploration, depending upon how one approaches the issue.<br /><br />It takes planning, resources and effort to BUILD additional tracks to take the train to new destinations, whether via a new spur or bridge. Once that is done the train can still explore -- safely -- new avenues and explore new territory. Once done, however, new areas and opportunities are now open that were not accessible before.<br /><br />The train will evermore remain a train, however, regardless of how anyone else might desire to refine it.<br /><br />Limitations or opportunities -- it's a matter of perspective.<br /><br />And, as that great urban philosopher, Inspector Harry Callahan observed, "A man's gotta know his limitations."<br />Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10988194376723420616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-25895341292455096532013-04-03T12:28:58.502-04:002013-04-03T12:28:58.502-04:00To take the argument a little further along, the p...To take the argument a little further along, the past and present actually define who we are. The left runs away from who we are by rejecting the past and present. The void must be filled by something, and it is not going to be the complex, layered environment that we live in and represent. It is going to be a simplistic alternative that, by definition, must be coercive and not allow for individual differences. The right builds on the past and present, and a healthy rightist is willing to encourage change, as long as it complements and meshes with the real world that we live in.<br /><br />To make my argument as succinct as possible, the leftist runs away from who he really is, towards nothing at all. The rightist respects who he is, and acts accordingly.<br /><br />Dutch 1960Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-47728125620614561382013-04-03T12:24:04.930-04:002013-04-03T12:24:04.930-04:00"Are you better off than you were twenty year... "Are you better off than you were twenty years ago or forty years ago?"<br /> Nope. Far worse and it took both left and right to get us there.<br />Chana @ Lemon Lime Moonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11656854855385193867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-6343401974893714172013-04-03T11:54:28.659-04:002013-04-03T11:54:28.659-04:00You've just summed up Eisau's biggest virt...You've just summed up Eisau's biggest virtue and failing at the same time.<br /><br />He's great a progressive, not so great at figuring out when it isn't progress.Ronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05349024830056532674noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-1058050493041039022013-04-03T11:48:42.339-04:002013-04-03T11:48:42.339-04:00Daniel, thanks for pointing me to "The Open C...Daniel, thanks for pointing me to "The Open Conspiracy" by H.G. Wells. It one of those "we really must do this" texts. Besides being unable to understand that they are simply not smart enough to organize a viable new order, the left always either pretend to believe or believe that the people organizing this order will be benign. They never are, whether they start out that way or not, because their ideological opponents or for that matter most people don't want to be "reorganized" against their will. So it's always worse. But they never quit. They can do better. Than what? Than now, than the past, than the way things will otherwise develop. But everyone has to do their fair share, have some skin in the game, cooperate, not be selfish. It will be fine, the left practically guarantees it. No exchanges or refunds though.IgorRhttp://www.gmail.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-46368148948735649072013-04-03T11:41:37.934-04:002013-04-03T11:41:37.934-04:00I find the comment by fsy to be interesting, not s...I find the comment by fsy to be interesting, not so much because I believe it makes sense, but because it attempts to "decategorize" things into issues and responses. I may agree in principle, but the fact is that people will align tribally with whomever they share commonality in interests and viewpoints. <br /><br />One of the problems with "take the issues and bomb the rest" is that issues are rarely monochromatic and usually relate to many other issues that reflect a particular world view. While gun control is a hot button right now, most of the issues surrounding it have little to do with saving people (can't be done - they will always find ways to crucify each other) and more to do with redefining liberty. Liberty will soon be defined as "freedom from choice or responsibility which allows one then to pursue the things one enjoys". I'm sure the workers in factories in the central USSR were relieved to know that their utopia was just around the corner.<br /><br />I've lived under communism. I don't recommend it. And communism / fascism / corporatism are all slightly camouflaged faces of the same thing. I'll leave it up to your tribal interpretation as to what the thing is.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-67870257087872389042013-04-03T10:57:37.857-04:002013-04-03T10:57:37.857-04:00Your arguments are so broad that it's difficul...Your arguments are so broad that it's difficult to disagree but this is not the same as being right. Who would disagree that change for change's sake is anarcy and counterproductive? You are obviously setting us up to see the "logic" behind a right-wind perspective but without ever having to give an answer to any real questions that our world faces, right or left. Not changing for the sake of remaining the same is just as dangerous so the real question remains, when and why should we change? You dare no answer to this and slanderingly assume that anyone on the left who wants to change has no reason for wanting said change. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-70267546815195862232013-04-03T09:57:56.213-04:002013-04-03T09:57:56.213-04:00Anonymous says: "And the repression by the r...Anonymous says: "And the repression by the right in the US and elsewhere has not been by "less" authority. I remember the 1950's."<br /><br />What particularly do you remember?Severely Ltd.https://www.blogger.com/profile/02837823141279732919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-66061178647016426702013-04-03T07:08:23.829-04:002013-04-03T07:08:23.829-04:00How many times do we have to argue about the "...How many times do we have to argue about the "true" right or left to realize that this one-dimensional metaphor from the French Assembly 200 years ago has long outlived its usefulness? <br />I just was looking at a column of yours from a few years ago called "What the Left Really Thinks of Hitler" where the comments quickly deteriorated into the old debate about whether old Adolf was from the "right" or the "left".<br />Wouldn't we all be better off boycotting this paradigm once and for all, and discussing the actual issues and positions rather than their locations on the right-left continuum?fsynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-14653872983016810302013-04-03T07:06:08.012-04:002013-04-03T07:06:08.012-04:00Well said, Daniel.
To build on what I think you ha...Well said, Daniel.<br />To build on what I think you have said previously, Progressivism is a strange suicidal mix of Stockholm Syndrome and adolescent rebellion against parents, but on a civilization-wide scale.<br />Exoticizing, romanticizing and identifying with those that seek to destroy you and your entire civilization. Opening the city gates to the savages beseiging the city. These impulses are nothing new, but the difference is that in the past, these traits were weeded out, and rightfully so, by perfectly rational countervailing urges of self-preservation and sense of belonging to community, nation, family and faith. With today's "Citizens of the World" types everywhere you look, these ties are not only frayed, but viewed as the root of evil! In their place, new ties have developed. The more exotic, outrageous and twisted the cause, the stronger the attraction. Like teenagers drawn to "bad boys" or the "wrong crowd" today's adult-in-age-only permanent adolescents are stuck in this rebellious phase indefinitely.<br />I greatly enjoy your writing Daniel.<br />Keep up the excellent work.George J.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-43486252105234667982013-04-03T06:23:18.153-04:002013-04-03T06:23:18.153-04:00DP111 writes
In a nutshell
DG wrote For those w...DP111 writes<br /><br />In a nutshell <br /><br />DG wrote <b>For those who want a single explanation for the Jewish liberal, it is to be noted that political liberalism is an aspect of the rejection of traditionalism.</b><br /><br />That is why the left rejects all ties that secure a human in a place- not just to nation, but to race, values, religion, and even the family. <br /> <br />The left in practice and outcome, is essentially anti-human. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-30613623356435069122013-04-03T02:02:33.340-04:002013-04-03T02:02:33.340-04:00Unruly, unexperienced ((seduced by fork tongued re...Unruly, unexperienced ((seduced by fork tongued revolutionary promis (lefty)) Hava ate of the forbidden fruit of knowledge and gone was Gan Eden for conservative, ((right) but swayed by argument to adjust his view for the sake of compromise)) Adam and the rest of us. Is that a proper compilation of today's column?mindRiderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12160934421830568737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-87029730536885103932013-04-03T01:06:25.722-04:002013-04-03T01:06:25.722-04:00Indeed we see a youth tilting leftward and then ti...Indeed we see a youth tilting leftward and then tilting rightward as one's time marches on. I often wonder what accounts for those who remain tilting leftward long after they should know better. fodderwingnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-59868245274909588402013-04-03T00:57:49.730-04:002013-04-03T00:57:49.730-04:00"The right's order allows for less author..."The right's order allows for less authority because it depends on empowering organic social institutes and mores, rather than enforcing a detailed plan that goes against the grain."<br />Daniel, You make many perceptive points in your blog, which I read avidly. But the "Right" is hardly so much better than the "Left." And the repression by the right in the US and elsewhere has not been by "less" authority. I remember the 1950's.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com