tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post1189416533625820368..comments2024-03-28T08:33:10.542-04:00Comments on Daniel Greenfield / Sultan Knish Articles at DanielGreenfield.org : Suicide as a Jewish ValueDaniel Greenfieldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-79203228071864090272012-10-13T09:56:33.497-04:002012-10-13T09:56:33.497-04:00It is a strange political fact that people can be ...It is a strange political fact that people can be persuaded to vote against their self interest. The left has been very good about persuading young people to vote for policies similar to credit card theft. <br /><br />Hand ringing Jews seem no match for political arguments aimed to persuade the 'too smart by half' crowds.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-50438515059901585942012-08-26T12:18:09.747-04:002012-08-26T12:18:09.747-04:00Abortion should not be a political policy. The go...Abortion should not be a political policy. The government does not belong in the bedroom. This is just another example of too much government. Get with it. Liberalism failed in this country a long time ago. It produced a colossal national debt, an entitlement class of unemployables, and a spirit of peace-at-any-price that we see turning the US into a second-class power. Immigration is not the problem. Immigrants built this country. PC is the problem.Baruch Cohonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-88583848426692684902012-08-10T19:45:40.677-04:002012-08-10T19:45:40.677-04:00thanks for putting into words my difficulties when...thanks for putting into words my difficulties when confronted by liberal Jews who looked down on me for my non support for abortion and other issues...now I have clear answers for these clouded thinkers...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-58655707521537038752012-08-10T10:24:23.014-04:002012-08-10T10:24:23.014-04:00one more point here; in Freakonomics, by Malcolm G...one more point here; in Freakonomics, by Malcolm Gladwell, he talks about how in the 90's the crime rate in the US dropped dramatically, especially in the 5 states that legalized abortion before the Supreme Court legalized it for the rest of the country. His research shows that the states with the highest abortion rates in the 70's experienced the greatest crime drop in the 90's. Which he contends means that all the babies that would have been born in the 70's to single moms, poor moms, teen moms, were never born. These are the prime circumstances, being raised by shot gun wedding parents, single poor moms, uneducated teen moms, that increase the likelihood that their children will become criminals. It is a sad sad thought. Because of this kind of factual research, I find myself in a constant battle with myself about the abortion issue. And I agree with one of the the commenters that adoption should be promoted BIG TIME! I was adopted in 1954 at 5 days old. My mother (aveshalom) was religious.Marlenenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-61581737510372644722012-08-09T17:36:23.001-04:002012-08-09T17:36:23.001-04:00New book: Robert Wistrich /From
Ambivalence to Bet...New book: Robert Wistrich /From<br />Ambivalence to Betrayal: The Left, the Jews and Israel.<br />Just another way to destroy Judaism, modern and multicultural and of course PCAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-67051493478539409282012-08-09T09:11:17.693-04:002012-08-09T09:11:17.693-04:00suicide is an interesting, yet accurate comparison...suicide is an interesting, yet accurate comparison. this article is another reminder to me, of the parallels in the circumstances of the jewish and black community. another thought you provoke for me here, daniel, is how so many of us had been lulled by the indoctrination by the left. it took years for me to learn margaret sanger's original intentions. why would an ordinary girl, like me and so many others know that? thankfully i am waking up from liberal programming. to be sure, it's no overnight occurence. i continue to be startled in seeing how much i have not known. thanks for continuing to enlighten with your writing. great post!namastehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02170605437186135506noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-46448771247561744582012-08-08T18:25:05.641-04:002012-08-08T18:25:05.641-04:00they're not Jewish at all, they're simply ...they're not Jewish at all, they're simply leftistDaniel Greenfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-4914466542278669382012-08-08T18:18:08.270-04:002012-08-08T18:18:08.270-04:00Outstanding insightful article. So if "libera...Outstanding insightful article. So if "liberal/Jewish values" conflict with Jewish interests, perhaps that means the liberal values aren't so Jewish after all?David Werdigerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04079239228838079776noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-5658460164069856032012-08-08T16:31:32.136-04:002012-08-08T16:31:32.136-04:00As always an excellent article. However I think we...As always an excellent article. However I think we need to begin to make some distinctions as they relate to the American Jewish community, if we would term it that. First we need to designate these people "Jews in Name-Halacha Definition Only", i.e. born of a Jewish mother. They all violate the basic principles of their cherished "tikkun olam" by not being/doing for their own people first, (actually not at all). And they are going the way of the dodo bird as they and their idiot offspring (oh sorry ethical humanists)marry out of Judaism. As has been noted the demographic projections suggest that Orthodox Jews will be the Jewish community of the future in this country. I thnk it is positively Darwinian as we shake out all the proto-Kapos and those who worship the golden calf of liberalism, to have a core community that actually understands and respects Jewish values, evn if I am secular.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-14870586397759782102012-08-08T13:25:34.723-04:002012-08-08T13:25:34.723-04:00Daniel Greenfield - I agree with the points of you...Daniel Greenfield - I agree with the points of your article. I have both of the initial example groups covered - Italian married to a Jewish wife. I offer one other aspect to consider. Those Jews who propose the liberal policies also do so for the "feel good" (at least to them) internal vibes and adulation of others in their group. And why not, in their lifetimes they may not see many or all of the serious repercussions. So they are selling out their future brethren for current gratification.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-61493341517866158552012-08-08T12:57:33.167-04:002012-08-08T12:57:33.167-04:00Following Daniel Greenfield's logic, we should...Following Daniel Greenfield's logic, we should not only permit, but to encourage abortion! Here are four pertinent considerations.<br /> 1.Those against abortion will not go for it anyhow, whether it is permitted, encouraged, or what! <br /> 2.Those who are for abortion will efficiently abort themselves out of existence as a group (may be in future generation we will have , with G-d's help, less Debby Wasserman Shultzes).<br /> 3. Of course, there is a "small issue" with the rights of the aborted fetuses. This can be addressed by formulating authoritative legal definitions of life and terms of life termination, and then developing, adopting, and strictly enforcing the appropriate laws that would criminally persecute the violators.<br /> 4.There still be left a group of "abortion law-abiding" citizen who wouldn't want their children. For those, an option may be created to give away their children, may be even for some reward. The rationale being, if those undesirable children are brought up in a children-loving family, they will not grow up children-haters and be contributing (e.g., not abortive) members of the society.Anatolynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-83761295300093978832012-08-08T09:24:30.350-04:002012-08-08T09:24:30.350-04:00Some years back I was friends with the President o...Some years back I was friends with the President of the local Hadasah group of which I was not a member, but thinking about it. Then I found out that at the Right To Choose (or whatever it was called) march in DC, the Hadassah ladies were out in front with a big banner supporting this cause. I told my friend that I resent that Hadassah took such a stand and so publicly. I told her that Hadassah does not speak for me. She stopped calling me after that, and that was the end of the friendship.Marlenenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-82335900315467885572012-08-08T07:43:42.495-04:002012-08-08T07:43:42.495-04:00"Jews have prospered in the USA because it..."Jews have prospered in the USA because it's a melting pot, multi cultural."<br /><br />Melting pot is the opposite of multiculturalism. Its more like multiracialism (which is different), but with one dominant culture, language, etc. <br />If you think that jews are going to benefit from turning the US into third world country, then go for it.<br />Opponents of the US will be more than happy to see it happening.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-21072166161793665062012-08-07T23:15:21.123-04:002012-08-07T23:15:21.123-04:00I don't know Avigail's politics and I don&...I don't know Avigail's politics and I don't see a need to abuse her. I would rather have a discussion than a fight.Daniel Greenfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-90487859108728253242012-08-07T22:34:56.718-04:002012-08-07T22:34:56.718-04:00The disdain and utter anger I feel towards the vas...The disdain and utter anger I feel towards the vast majority of Reformed and Conservative Jews in this country know no bounds.<br /><br />I have severed my ties with most-and it makes me want to cry. These are the Jews who have assimilated into Jew haters. These are the Jews who think the only tenet of Judaism is tikkun olam. What makes them any different than a righteous gentile?! There is more to being Jewish than a corn beef sandwich and suckling at Obama's teat.<br /><br />I am sickened by leftwing-Israel hating Jews. I turn my back on them, and spit in their face.<br /><br />There. I feel 2 percent better. A hard rain is coming.<br /><br />PeaceAtAllCostsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-11473335230865054242012-08-07T21:07:28.065-04:002012-08-07T21:07:28.065-04:00@Avigail
Avigail, this is all I have to say to yo...@Avigail<br /><br />Avigail, this is all I have to say to you and all the other Jewish leftists who liberalized your communities out of existence:<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsaTElBljOE<br /><br />Groove to the music baby!Ronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05349024830056532674noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-65136495191122482752012-08-07T17:26:00.521-04:002012-08-07T17:26:00.521-04:00Avigayil.. horse hockey. Jews never were denied th...Avigayil.. horse hockey. Jews never were denied the right to vote in the USA.. not ever. And Jews have been in America since just after the time of ColumbusChana @ Lemon Lime Moonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11656854855385193867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-38130739191685844192012-08-07T14:13:31.323-04:002012-08-07T14:13:31.323-04:00YCT is a seminary with big funding designed to tur...YCT is a seminary with big funding designed to turn out left wing community organizer unrabbis who push social justice and campaign for left-wing causes. Uri L'Tzedek is an example of their work. <br /><br />Here is one essay from their site that explains the objective<br /><br />http://www.yctorah.org/component/option,com_docman/task,doc_view/gid,627/<br /><br />"A possible model of a practical application of a Jewish redemptive ethic can be found in the populist movement developing throughout North and South America called “Base Communit ies.” These communities of faith began developing in Latin America at the same time Liberation Theology was first being articulated. Base Communities, traditionally, are grassroots-organized groups comprised of people of faith who wish to translate that faith into three concrete areas: Bible study, communal action, and self-consciousness.<br />The Jewish community might benefit applying these three areas operating under the framework of a Jewish Liberation Theology."<br /><br />..if you know what liberation theology is then you know where this is goingDaniel Greenfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-14732665172929167052012-08-07T14:03:38.313-04:002012-08-07T14:03:38.313-04:00Daniel can you please explain the chovovei Torah c...Daniel can you please explain the chovovei Torah comment.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-22316713827676197422012-08-07T13:27:12.018-04:002012-08-07T13:27:12.018-04:00Avigail,
Antisemitism in America collapsed between...Avigail,<br />Antisemitism in America collapsed between 1922 and 1965, exactly when immigration was restricted. No people have been more welcoming of Jews in the modern era than WASPs, other Scotch-Irish theological Zionists.<br />Jews have always been able to vote in America, starting in the revolutionary era. Perhaps you should look up Francis Salvador, the first identified Jew to be elected to an American colonial legislature, the only Jew to serve in a revolutionary colonial congress and the first Jew to die for the cause of American liberty. <br /><br />" The Republican top brass has and is anti semitic. "<br />It was the FDR regime that accidentaly banned schechita and purposely refused to even meet immigration quotas, lest Jews enter the country. <br /><br />The Democrat party embraces Al Sharpton and Jessie "Hymietown" Jackson. There is no one comparable in the GOP.<br /><br />Let me be perfectly honest. You are partaking of grievance politics. And grievance politics rots the mind and drives the left.RonLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14153955273265055016noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-79416080608853202802012-08-07T10:34:35.398-04:002012-08-07T10:34:35.398-04:00A further thought, Daniel, the coming change in po...A further thought, Daniel, the coming change in power towards these immigrant groups will also result in a waning of support for Israel, both politically and militarily. Particularly if their preference for continued wealth transfers maintains a lower level of economic performance by the US economy. Notwithstanding current liberal Jewish indifference to Israel's success, its failure would be a significant cultural loss to all Jews, a loss of homeland.Jewish supporternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-22568815175203901552012-08-07T09:43:10.877-04:002012-08-07T09:43:10.877-04:00jewish supporter, very true and an important point...jewish supporter, very true and an important pointDaniel Greenfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-85942341029464712272012-08-07T09:41:38.105-04:002012-08-07T09:41:38.105-04:00Avigail, Jews didn't have the vote? That's...Avigail, Jews didn't have the vote? That's news to me. The only time Jews didn't have the vote was early on in some states that rejected Jews as citizens long long before there was a separate Republican Party. If you go back before the 20th century the Jewish vote was split between parties.<br /><br />Melting pot and multicultural aren't the same thing. They're somewhat opposites really. But that's a whole other discussion.Daniel Greenfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13575285186581875356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-86766318801176712842012-08-07T09:24:01.229-04:002012-08-07T09:24:01.229-04:00"That is what makes the multicultural allianc..."That is what makes the multicultural alliance into a frighteningly unstable beast which is always at risk of either breaking left or breaking right"<br /><br />For too long jewish political debate has focused on the fight between the left and the right, assuming, as you point out, that the left is consistent with their interests while the right is counter.<br /><br />This analysis is far too narrow, as it presupposes that no risks lie in the consequences of such policies as multicultural. Few societies in the world manage to remain stable without coercion, and these are often white. Western white society has provided the social glue that has enabled racial pluralism to function in the US to this point. At some time, however, the racial mix will tip, so that this will no longer be the case. It is only then that the consequences of the antisemitism found in these immigrant communities will become dangerous for the Jewish community as well as others.<br /><br />Politics will then be about one race versus another, rather than left and right, and will bring about conditions that will demolish the current elite. And, there will be no outside successful, stable, Western style communities to leverage off and mitigate with.Jewish supporternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11368628.post-52049617639164566272012-08-07T07:26:39.395-04:002012-08-07T07:26:39.395-04:00Actually - it was because of the pluralistic commu...Actually - it was because of the pluralistic communities in the NorthEast that eventually led to the melting pot you so embrace.<br />While you can kick and scream that republicans may have had anti-semites in their ranks, you cannot deny who and what the Democrats have promoted as being entirley incongruous with jewish and immigrant communities alike.<br />Suburban enclaves in and around NYC were Democratic and don't be surprised when I tell you that Klan membership in CT and NJ was open and promoted - up to the civil rights era. These were and always will be democrat enclaves.<br />The fact that they have seduced generations to embrace the "freebie" principals and that "Republicans are Evil" does not erase their history and the track record of the Democrat Party - espescially when it came to immigration, or the promotion of human trafficking.<br />As the son of immigrants that lived in Borough Park (I'm Roman Catholic) and then to move on to suburbia to hear my "liberal friends" declare the Democrat Party as a lost tribe of Israel makes me nauseous. Our old friends from the neighborhood (well only a few are left) were a bit more suspiscious of politicians than the "all-in" almost "yankee-fan" type of mentality I'm seeing.<br />There are several liberalized jews in the upper echelons of the republican party, just as there are Irish, Italian, Greek and Latinos.<br />They don't deliver the same pablum to those that are still "on the farm". <br />Next:<br />A good friend that is an industrial procurer has taken severe hit on his business since he deals largely with the energy industry.<br />It is a case where his president's policy's and cabinet is directly responsible for destroying his business... yet he will blame Bush and preach to me how Obama is good for the Jewish community and Israel...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com